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murchr
#41 Posted : Friday, February 21, 2020 11:48:41 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
So we are sending those Kenyans 1.3M, how will they get it?


Embassy... & China Government. Don't hate for the sake of hating.


People are locked up in apartments ma'am. No walking around....a drown is following those outside asking them to go back to their houses. So again how are these Kenyans supposed to collect their share of Ksh1.3M?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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wukan
#42 Posted : Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:16:33 AM
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Hio stori ya Mutomo-Kitui vipi?
T-Bag
#43 Posted : Saturday, February 22, 2020 12:52:34 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
So we are sending those Kenyans 1.3M, how will they get it?


Embassy... & China Government. Don't hate for the sake of hating.


That is valid, how will the embassy get to the students? Do they have M-pesachina? Remember lockdown means no movement.
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2012
#44 Posted : Saturday, February 22, 2020 2:19:23 PM
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T-Bag wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
So we are sending those Kenyans 1.3M, how will they get it?


Embassy... & China Government. Don't hate for the sake of hating.


That is valid, how will the embassy get to the students? Do they have M-pesachina? Remember lockdown means no movement.


By the way, China's version of mpesa is way advanced than ours. They use the QR Code for payments for everything. It's almost impossible to find someone with cash, even businesses there turn you away if you want to transact in cash.

BBI will solve it
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murchr
#45 Posted : Saturday, February 22, 2020 4:33:00 PM
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T-Bag wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
So we are sending those Kenyans 1.3M, how will they get it?


Embassy... & China Government. Don't hate for the sake of hating.


That is valid, how will the embassy get to the students? Do they have M-pesachina? Remember lockdown means no movement.


Decisions in Kenya are not well thought out. I understand the notion of keeping these Kenyans away but they need to eat and get out of the petri dish if we want them to survive. If GOK had charterd a plane to bring those kids to Lamu-some deserted island - let them stay there for 2wks under observation. It could end up being cheaper and more of a success story.

But....well. No elite Kenyan child is studying in Wuhan

How many can survive like this

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#46 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2020 10:19:27 AM
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murchr wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
So we are sending those Kenyans 1.3M, how will they get it?


Embassy... & China Government. Don't hate for the sake of hating.


That is valid, how will the embassy get to the students? Do they have M-pesachina? Remember lockdown means no movement.


Decisions in Kenya are not well thought out. I understand the notion of keeping these Kenyans away but they need to eat and get out of the petri dish if we want them to survive. If GOK had charterd a plane to bring those kids to Lamu-some deserted island - let them stay there for 2wks under observation. It could end up being cheaper and more of a success story.

But....well. No elite Kenyan child is studying in Wuhan

How many can survive like this


Quarantining them in China, a country equiped to control the virus; or bringing them to Kenya, a country ill equiped to handle the virus. The first option is the lesser evil.
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murchr
#47 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2020 5:45:58 PM
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Now are we going to stop receiving people from S.Korea, Iran and Italy? Cases have spiked there as well. What about the Kitui case? Covid 19 could be here already.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#48 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2020 5:50:33 PM
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murchr wrote:
Now are we going to stop receiving people from S.Korea, Iran and Italy? Cases have spiked there as well. What about the Kitui case? Covid 19 could be here already.


Wakae huko until confirmed they are not infected or treated. Wale wako Kitui wakae huko pia.
Life is short. Live passionately.
madollar
#49 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2020 6:18:09 PM
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sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
Now are we going to stop receiving people from S.Korea, Iran and Italy? Cases have spiked there as well. What about the Kitui case? Covid 19 could be here already.


Wakae huko until confirmed they are not infected or treated. Wale wako Kitui wakae huko pia.


Waiting for this to happen in africa...

Israel has turned back as many as 130 South Korean passengers of a flight from South Korea in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak.
It allowed only 12 Israeli passengers to disembark on the Korean Airlines flight's arrival in Tel Aviv on Saturday.
murchr
#50 Posted : Sunday, February 23, 2020 8:37:41 PM
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madollar wrote:
sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
Now are we going to stop receiving people from S.Korea, Iran and Italy? Cases have spiked there as well. What about the Kitui case? Covid 19 could be here already.


Wakae huko until confirmed they are not infected or treated. Wale wako Kitui wakae huko pia.


Waiting for this to happen in africa...

Israel has turned back as many as 130 South Korean passengers of a flight from South Korea in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak.
It allowed only 12 Israeli passengers to disembark on the Korean Airlines flight's arrival in Tel Aviv on Saturday.



That disease could be spreading here. We would never know until several people are taken down.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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wukan
#51 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 12:53:55 PM
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murchr wrote:


That disease could be spreading here. We would never know until several people are taken down.


I read some online article that treatments needs lots of oxygen tanks to keep up the treatment. Imagine how quickly that would overwhelm medical facilities here.

On another how would quarantine work in Kenya where most people live for the day? Keep them 14 days you are looking at humanitarian disaster.
2012
#52 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 1:05:15 PM
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wukan wrote:
murchr wrote:


That disease could be spreading here. We would never know until several people are taken down.


I read some online article that treatments needs lots of oxygen tanks to keep up the treatment. Imagine how quickly that would overwhelm medical facilities here.

On another how would quarantine work in Kenya where most people live for the day? Keep them 14 days you are looking at humanitarian disaster.


Two main challenges would face Kenya and Africa. Early or timely diagnosis and quarantine. We do not have capacity for either. If in Italy they are still looking for patient zero, the original career, how can we manage? As much as I do not like Gvn. Obado, I agree with him that we should not allow any of these guys to come into the country. I'm sure they will understand.
By Friday, Italy had 3 cases. Sunday, they had 130. Two of the first 3 dead.

BBI will solve it
:)
Angelica _ann
#53 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 1:46:27 PM
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I heard Trump say (claim) that the virus cannot survive 6 hours exposed in dry/hot weather/environment. That is why Africa is safe d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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murchr
#54 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 2:19:32 PM
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2012 wrote:
wukan wrote:
murchr wrote:


That disease could be spreading here. We would never know until several people are taken down.


I read some online article that treatments needs lots of oxygen tanks to keep up the treatment. Imagine how quickly that would overwhelm medical facilities here.

On another how would quarantine work in Kenya where most people live for the day? Keep them 14 days you are looking at humanitarian disaster.


Two main challenges would face Kenya and Africa. Early or timely diagnosis and quarantine. We do not have capacity for either. If in Italy they are still looking for patient zero, the original career, how can we manage? As much as I do not like Gvn. Obado, I agree with him that we should not allow any of these guys to come into the country. I'm sure they will understand.
By Friday, Italy had 3 cases. Sunday, they had 130. Two of the first 3 dead.



The worst thing about it is a carrier can be spreading it without showing symptoms. That's very dangerous. It's possible patient zero in Italy is still mingling about
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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wukan
#55 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 2:35:32 PM
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2012 wrote:
wukan wrote:
murchr wrote:


That disease could be spreading here. We would never know until several people are taken down.


I read some online article that treatments needs lots of oxygen tanks to keep up the treatment. Imagine how quickly that would overwhelm medical facilities here.

On another how would quarantine work in Kenya where most people live for the day? Keep them 14 days you are looking at humanitarian disaster.


Two main challenges would face Kenya and Africa. Early or timely diagnosis and quarantine. We do not have capacity for either. If in Italy they are still looking for patient zero, the original career, how can we manage? As much as I do not like Gvn. Obado, I agree with him that we should not allow any of these guys to come into the country. I'm sure they will understand.
By Friday, Italy had 3 cases. Sunday, they had 130. Two of the first 3 dead.


Closing borders or not allowing these guys is a waste of time. The virus is airborne and just like the locusts you can't stop it from landing here. This is where we need Miguna's words mobilize, organize viva

Julie
#56 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 3:34:11 PM
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@ Wukan
Airborne droplets will not travel from China to Kenya or across borders.
There has to be close proximity for transmission to happen.
Closing borders solves this problem!
Angelica _ann
#57 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 4:52:24 PM
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Julie wrote:
@ Wukan
Airborne droplets will not travel from China to Kenya or across borders.
There has to be close proximity for transmission to happen.
Closing borders solves this problem!


Closing borders in Kenya just increases the bribery levels for Kenya 'border patrol' officers.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Extraterrestrial
#58 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 5:36:28 PM
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SOUTH KOREA, ITALY AND IRAN ARE THE NEW WUHAN. MULTIPLE HUNDRED PERCENT JUMPS IN CASES. PEOPLE FROM IRAN ENTERING NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES TESTING POSITIVE. SIZE OF OUTBREAK IN IRAN IS PROBABLY MASSIVE FOR SUCH EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF VECTORS TO ESCAPE COUNTRY.
madollar
#59 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 3:36:03 AM
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Extraterrestrial wrote:
SOUTH KOREA, ITALY AND IRAN ARE THE NEW WUHAN. MULTIPLE HUNDRED PERCENT JUMPS IN CASES. PEOPLE FROM IRAN ENTERING NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES TESTING POSITIVE. SIZE OF OUTBREAK IN IRAN IS PROBABLY MASSIVE FOR SUCH EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF VECTORS TO ESCAPE COUNTRY.

Iran is where tings could go seriously south to make matters worse it neighbors afghanistan and pakistan then on to india
murchr
#60 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:00:13 AM
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Add 60 for S.Korea now 893

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