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wal6807
#21 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2019 12:33:54 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Really ? We are discussing this ?? To be done by Jubilee ?? The idiots who don't even know how many KMs of tarmac they have done since they came to power. The clueless thieves who couldn't deliver laptops to kids ?? Our DCI doesn't have a DNA lab but we want to have a national DNA database.

Yenyewe ruling Africans is easy. Just throw a distraction and they will be lost discussing it for a year as you continue to loot.



Am also abit pessimstic , we cannot even manage a simple thing like traffic control with street lights only without cops stepping in , and that is low tech, i wonder who is pushing this thing.
"Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers."
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mburuke
#22 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:37:42 PM
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sequencing DNA for all kenyans is not a simple task both interms of
cost involved and the levels of skills required. In addition itsnt not
the best option to go plus who will be responsible in securing this sensitive
data.
Researcher would be very happy to exploit these kind of data for comparisons.
Either its hype or there is more to this. in the best case scenarios this kind of bio data/ information should only be collected for convicted criminals
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Swenani
#23 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:12:53 PM
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mburuke wrote:
sequencing DNA for all kenyans is not a simple task both interms of
cost involved and the levels of skills required. In addition itsnt not
the best option to go plus who will be responsible in securing this sensitive
data.
Researcher would be very happy to exploit these kind of data for comparisons.
Either its hype or there is more to this. in the best case scenarios this kind of bio data/ information should only be collected for convicted criminals


DNA sequencing is a stretch for the Kenyan gaarment. I think the furthest they can go is to have a repository of bio metrics data
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FRM2011
#24 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:34:45 PM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
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Swenani wrote:
mburuke wrote:
sequencing DNA for all kenyans is not a simple task both interms of
cost involved and the levels of skills required. In addition itsnt not
the best option to go plus who will be responsible in securing this sensitive
data.
Researcher would be very happy to exploit these kind of data for comparisons.
Either its hype or there is more to this. in the best case scenarios this kind of bio data/ information should only be collected for convicted criminals


DNA sequencing is a stretch for the Kenyan gaarment. I think the furthest they can go is to have a repository of bio metrics data


@swenani, when someone gets knocked by a vehicle along say Jogoo road, cops from the nearest police station (Buruburu) will be called, write their report and take the body to City morgue. Two days later, a family will be combing all police stations, hospitals and morgues looking for a "missing person". This plays out all the time. A digitized police OB would solve this problem. I don't think it would cost Kes 50M. A young JKUAT graduate can fix this instantly. It is so basic but our leaders are so incompetent and clueless to fix it.

We have been reforming land registration in Kenya since 2003. And yet a guy was able to go to a bank, borrow 150M with his land as security. Later printed another title deed and had the legal charge at the lands registry deleted. Borrowed again, repeated the process and borrowed again for the 3rd time. Now COOP, Equity and CBA are fighting in courts who has the right to sell the land in question.

The Jubilee government cannot handle even the repository of bio-metrics data. Hopelessly incompetent.
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murchr
#25 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:41:03 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
mburuke wrote:
sequencing DNA for all kenyans is not a simple task both interms of
cost involved and the levels of skills required. In addition itsnt not
the best option to go plus who will be responsible in securing this sensitive
data.
Researcher would be very happy to exploit these kind of data for comparisons.
Either its hype or there is more to this. in the best case scenarios this kind of bio data/ information should only be collected for convicted criminals


DNA sequencing is a stretch for the Kenyan gaarment. I think the furthest they can go is to have a repository of bio metrics data


@swenani, when someone gets knocked by a vehicle along say Jogoo road, cops from the nearest police station (Buruburu) will be called, write their report and take the body to City morgue. Two days later, a family will be combing all police stations, hospitals and morgues looking for a "missing person". This plays out all the time. A digitized police OB would solve this problem. I don't think it would cost Kes 50M. A young JKUAT graduate can fix this instantly. It is so basic but our leaders are so incompetent and clueless to fix it.

We have been reforming land registration in Kenya since 2003. And yet a guy was able to go to a bank, borrow 150M with his land as security. Later printed another title deed and had the legal charge at the lands registry deleted. Borrowed again, repeated the process and borrowed again for the 3rd time. Now COOP, Equity and CBA are fighting in courts who has the right to sell the land in question.

The Jubilee government cannot handle even the repository of bio-metrics data. Hopelessly incompetent.



There's nothing like Jubilee govt. Civil servants are the same irrespective of who leads govt.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#26 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:53:34 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
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murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
mburuke wrote:
sequencing DNA for all kenyans is not a simple task both interms of
cost involved and the levels of skills required. In addition itsnt not
the best option to go plus who will be responsible in securing this sensitive
data.
Researcher would be very happy to exploit these kind of data for comparisons.
Either its hype or there is more to this. in the best case scenarios this kind of bio data/ information should only be collected for convicted criminals


DNA sequencing is a stretch for the Kenyan gaarment. I think the furthest they can go is to have a repository of bio metrics data


@swenani, when someone gets knocked by a vehicle along say Jogoo road, cops from the nearest police station (Buruburu) will be called, write their report and take the body to City morgue. Two days later, a family will be combing all police stations, hospitals and morgues looking for a "missing person". This plays out all the time. A digitized police OB would solve this problem. I don't think it would cost Kes 50M. A young JKUAT graduate can fix this instantly. It is so basic but our leaders are so incompetent and clueless to fix it.

We have been reforming land registration in Kenya since 2003. And yet a guy was able to go to a bank, borrow 150M with his land as security. Later printed another title deed and had the legal charge at the lands registry deleted. Borrowed again, repeated the process and borrowed again for the 3rd time. Now COOP, Equity and CBA are fighting in courts who has the right to sell the land in question.

The Jubilee government cannot handle even the repository of bio-metrics data. Hopelessly incompetent.



There's nothing like Jubilee govt. Civil servants are the same irrespective of who leads govt.


We know what happened after Ngilu tried to streamline lands' registry in the process helped someone escape kaburus.

The current one in lands knows nothing at all. That is Ruto for you Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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murchr
#27 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2019 3:52:44 AM
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You have 45 days to register. And the list of the required data is long not just the usual stuff, but it will include your plots and parcels of lands, wives, parents, children, industry you work in, cars planes telephone(s),fingerprints (no
DNA), permanent and current address, level of education, etc.

The forms will be online, they are serialized so you can't photocopy or print several copies. Once filled you may present them to the Assistant Chief.

You will not leave with a card.

15 days for the pilot program from Feb 15.

Mass reg 45 days from Mar 15th
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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MugundaMan
#28 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2019 4:16:04 AM
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Joined: 1/8/2018
Posts: 2,212
Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
Big brother is here with us my brodas. This is just a clever way for the government to increase mass surveillance on its own citizens in the name of "fighting terrorism" After so called Nyumba Kumi flopped they have now decided on strong arm tactics. How will this process stop terrorism? It can't. A terrorist walking in from Somalia without a scrap of documentation or DNA in government databases will be stopped by this how?
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newfarer
#29 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2019 7:29:27 AM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
this govt is starting so many projects ..nothing to write home about.. another hot air
punda amecheka
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guru267
#30 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2019 2:05:01 PM
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Location: Nairobi
So Kenyans living in the diaspora will have to travel back to see their assistant chiefs like we did for E-passports?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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