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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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kawi254 wrote:For no reason at all, start a WhatsApp rumour that the new Huduma ID is the 666 mark of the Beast that one cannot buy or sell without the Huduma ID card proving our allegiance to Satan's political system Only the most dreaded,tremendous,bearded,most fearful,2 in one,mightiest,avenger,bad ass guy,superman followers will swallow this. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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essyk wrote:kawi254 wrote:For no reason at all, start a WhatsApp rumour that the new Huduma ID is the 666 mark of the Beast that one cannot buy or sell without the Huduma ID card proving our allegiance to Satan's political system Only the most dreaded,tremendous,bearded,most fearful,2 in one,mightiest,avenger,bad ass guy,superman followers will swallow this. Babe, you seem to overestimate Kenyans intelligence. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Who has registered? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:These people don't think these things through do they? Have they considered the logistics of this project kwanza ati pilot program to run from Feb 15th. Why so soon. Why not prepare well?
And what does my Ethnicity on my ID have to do with anything?
What about those in the diaspora. I can't imagine the pain of having to look for all this info then deal with the embassy people who are just the worst at doing the simplest things.
Thank God my attempts to get the ID in December were not successful since it looks like Id have had to repeat the whole damn process!!!
In case you were wondering why I wasn't successful in December ... it was because this same huduma center that will be handling all our info was closed for ID services from mid December to maybe the second week of January. How does that make sense?
Arghgh I am so irritated. Where did you get that? On the form, there is nothing about Ethnicity just the normal details on your ID. By the way, you will NEED your ID, Birth Certificate and NSSF NHIF NEMIS and all those gvt issued cards. I think the Ethnicity question comes in during census. Its typical across the world. We need to know if Ogieks are now extinct.As at yesterday, those in the diaspora will fill in the forms online and get the Huduma number once they return at their Assistant Chief's office. At the office you return your form - the attache there will verify your docs and take your 10 finger prints. After finishing you walk out with just what you brought in DO NOT EXPECT a card Serikali inahaja gani na makabila ya watu? Which service is specific to Kabila fulani? or Religion... if you are not building temples and churches... kazi ya hiyo data ni nini? ati it's world over! so watu wakianza kutembea miguu mitupu utatembea vivyo hivyo? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:These people don't think these things through do they? Have they considered the logistics of this project kwanza ati pilot program to run from Feb 15th. Why so soon. Why not prepare well?
And what does my Ethnicity on my ID have to do with anything?
What about those in the diaspora. I can't imagine the pain of having to look for all this info then deal with the embassy people who are just the worst at doing the simplest things.
Thank God my attempts to get the ID in December were not successful since it looks like Id have had to repeat the whole damn process!!!
In case you were wondering why I wasn't successful in December ... it was because this same huduma center that will be handling all our info was closed for ID services from mid December to maybe the second week of January. How does that make sense?
Arghgh I am so irritated. Where did you get that? On the form, there is nothing about Ethnicity just the normal details on your ID. By the way, you will NEED your ID, Birth Certificate and NSSF NHIF NEMIS and all those gvt issued cards. I think the Ethnicity question comes in during census. Its typical across the world. We need to know if Ogieks are now extinct.As at yesterday, those in the diaspora will fill in the forms online and get the Huduma number once they return at their Assistant Chief's office. At the office you return your form - the attache there will verify your docs and take your 10 finger prints. After finishing you walk out with just what you brought in DO NOT EXPECT a card Serikali inahaja gani na makabila ya watu? Which service is specific to Kabila fulani? or Religion... if you are not building temples and churches... kazi ya hiyo data ni nini? ati it's world over! so watu wakianza kutembea miguu mitupu utatembea vivyo hivyo? Are you commenting on facts or just Sansa's comments? The data on Huduma ID is just the usual data you are asked when taking your National ID, NHIF, NSSF, Drivers LC, KRA data etc. they dont care about your tribe, but your residency On Census, you will be asked about your tribe. It is not compulsory to ans in 2009, when the interviewer asked me that question i answered Kenyan, and we moved on. And yes, decennial census is a practice done world over. Most countries in the world carry out census every 10 years per the set guidelines of the UN(UNSD) and ofcourse the legislation. That data in KE is also used to determine constituency boundaries, county funds allocations, balance the ethnic compositions in govt offices (tall order) etc. In countries such as the US, they would like to know the country's composition of races for affirmative action policies. In my case as a private citizen, I would just be interested in knowing if the Ogieks are currently extinct or there indeed is a population of these people. And if Ahmed Nasir is right that the Somali population is now the majority in the country. Not because the information adds any value to my glass of water, but for curiosity's sake ala! the govt owes that to me as a tax payer "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 454 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:These people don't think these things through do they? Have they considered the logistics of this project kwanza ati pilot program to run from Feb 15th. Why so soon. Why not prepare well?
And what does my Ethnicity on my ID have to do with anything?
What about those in the diaspora. I can't imagine the pain of having to look for all this info then deal with the embassy people who are just the worst at doing the simplest things.
Thank God my attempts to get the ID in December were not successful since it looks like Id have had to repeat the whole damn process!!!
In case you were wondering why I wasn't successful in December ... it was because this same huduma center that will be handling all our info was closed for ID services from mid December to maybe the second week of January. How does that make sense?
Arghgh I am so irritated. Where did you get that? On the form, there is nothing about Ethnicity just the normal details on your ID. By the way, you will NEED your ID, Birth Certificate and NSSF NHIF NEMIS and all those gvt issued cards. I think the Ethnicity question comes in during census. Its typical across the world. We need to know if Ogieks are now extinct.As at yesterday, those in the diaspora will fill in the forms online and get the Huduma number once they return at their Assistant Chief's office. At the office you return your form - the attache there will verify your docs and take your 10 finger prints. After finishing you walk out with just what you brought in DO NOT EXPECT a card Serikali inahaja gani na makabila ya watu? Which service is specific to Kabila fulani? or Religion... if you are not building temples and churches... kazi ya hiyo data ni nini? ati it's world over! so watu wakianza kutembea miguu mitupu utatembea vivyo hivyo? Are you commenting on facts or just Sansa's comments? The data on Huduma ID is just the usual data you are asked when taking your National ID, NHIF, NSSF, Drivers LC, KRA data etc. they dont care about your tribe, but your residency On Census, you will be asked about your tribe. It is not compulsory to ans in 2009, when the interviewer asked me that question i answered Kenyan, and we moved on. And yes, decennial census is a practice done world over. Most countries in the world carry out census every 10 years per the set guidelines of the UN(UNSD) and ofcourse the legislation. That data in KE is also used to determine constituency boundaries, county funds allocations, balance the ethnic compositions in govt offices (tall order) etc. In countries such as the US, they would like to know the country's composition of races for affirmative action policies. In my case as a private citizen, I would just be interested in knowing if the Ogieks are currently extinct or there indeed is a population of these people. And if Ahmed Nasir is right that the Somali population is now the majority in the country. Not because the information adds any value to my glass of water, but for curiosity's sake ala! the govt owes that to me as a tax payer Mwalimu Julius Nyerere was indeed a gem in matters of leadership and cohesion. Serikali haijengi makanisa wala mskiti, kwa hivyo swali la dini halihusu serikali. Swala la kabila ni upumbavu tu. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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tinker wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:These people don't think these things through do they? Have they considered the logistics of this project kwanza ati pilot program to run from Feb 15th. Why so soon. Why not prepare well?
And what does my Ethnicity on my ID have to do with anything?
What about those in the diaspora. I can't imagine the pain of having to look for all this info then deal with the embassy people who are just the worst at doing the simplest things.
Thank God my attempts to get the ID in December were not successful since it looks like Id have had to repeat the whole damn process!!!
In case you were wondering why I wasn't successful in December ... it was because this same huduma center that will be handling all our info was closed for ID services from mid December to maybe the second week of January. How does that make sense?
Arghgh I am so irritated. Where did you get that? On the form, there is nothing about Ethnicity just the normal details on your ID. By the way, you will NEED your ID, Birth Certificate and NSSF NHIF NEMIS and all those gvt issued cards. I think the Ethnicity question comes in during census. Its typical across the world. We need to know if Ogieks are now extinct.As at yesterday, those in the diaspora will fill in the forms online and get the Huduma number once they return at their Assistant Chief's office. At the office you return your form - the attache there will verify your docs and take your 10 finger prints. After finishing you walk out with just what you brought in DO NOT EXPECT a card Serikali inahaja gani na makabila ya watu? Which service is specific to Kabila fulani? or Religion... if you are not building temples and churches... kazi ya hiyo data ni nini? ati it's world over! so watu wakianza kutembea miguu mitupu utatembea vivyo hivyo? Are you commenting on facts or just Sansa's comments? The data on Huduma ID is just the usual data you are asked when taking your National ID, NHIF, NSSF, Drivers LC, KRA data etc. they dont care about your tribe, but your residency On Census, you will be asked about your tribe. It is not compulsory to ans in 2009, when the interviewer asked me that question i answered Kenyan, and we moved on. And yes, decennial census is a practice done world over. Most countries in the world carry out census every 10 years per the set guidelines of the UN(UNSD) and ofcourse the legislation. That data in KE is also used to determine constituency boundaries, county funds allocations, balance the ethnic compositions in govt offices (tall order) etc. In countries such as the US, they would like to know the country's composition of races for affirmative action policies. In my case as a private citizen, I would just be interested in knowing if the Ogieks are currently extinct or there indeed is a population of these people. And if Ahmed Nasir is right that the Somali population is now the majority in the country. Not because the information adds any value to my glass of water, but for curiosity's sake ala! the govt owes that to me as a tax payer Mwalimu Julius Nyerere was indeed a gem in matters of leadership and cohesion. Serikali haijengi makanisa wala mskiti, kwa hivyo swali la dini halihusu serikali. Swala la kabila ni upumbavu tu. Uliza @murchr kama anataka kutambika!  for you who don't understand swahili... Kutambika is to offer sacrifices to your gods. Together with useless information... why not collect the heights of individuals as well as the color of their skins. Population numbers are important in delimiting counties and constituencies but not the make up of those constituencies. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:kawi254 wrote:For no reason at all, start a WhatsApp rumour that the new Huduma ID is the 666 mark of the Beast that one cannot buy or sell without the Huduma ID card proving our allegiance to Satan's political system Only the most dreaded,tremendous,bearded,most fearful,2 in one,mightiest,avenger,bad ass guy,superman followers will swallow this. Babe, you seem to overestimate Kenyans intelligence. Not till when the name behind the number is well understood will we stop the rumor!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Who has registered? I'm waiting for the last day, then we flock to the centers. We get an extension, then we wait for the last day, then we flock. Then another extension... Till the whole 'edifice' collapses. Tangu lini serikali kuhudumia mwananchi? PR aside!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Who has registered? I'm waiting for the last day, then we flock to the centers. We get an extension, then we wait for the last day, then we flock. Then another extension... Till the whole 'edifice' collapses. Tangu lini serikali kuhudumia mwananchi? PR aside! LOL! I don't even think abt it.Like what the hell was it abt again? let them go around advertising like the polio campaigns cz kenyans are too pre-occupied with life..and stealing. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:tinker wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:These people don't think these things through do they? Have they considered the logistics of this project kwanza ati pilot program to run from Feb 15th. Why so soon. Why not prepare well?
And what does my Ethnicity on my ID have to do with anything?
What about those in the diaspora. I can't imagine the pain of having to look for all this info then deal with the embassy people who are just the worst at doing the simplest things.
Thank God my attempts to get the ID in December were not successful since it looks like Id have had to repeat the whole damn process!!!
In case you were wondering why I wasn't successful in December ... it was because this same huduma center that will be handling all our info was closed for ID services from mid December to maybe the second week of January. How does that make sense?
Arghgh I am so irritated. Where did you get that? On the form, there is nothing about Ethnicity just the normal details on your ID. By the way, you will NEED your ID, Birth Certificate and NSSF NHIF NEMIS and all those gvt issued cards. I think the Ethnicity question comes in during census. Its typical across the world. We need to know if Ogieks are now extinct.As at yesterday, those in the diaspora will fill in the forms online and get the Huduma number once they return at their Assistant Chief's office. At the office you return your form - the attache there will verify your docs and take your 10 finger prints. After finishing you walk out with just what you brought in DO NOT EXPECT a card Serikali inahaja gani na makabila ya watu? Which service is specific to Kabila fulani? or Religion... if you are not building temples and churches... kazi ya hiyo data ni nini? ati it's world over! so watu wakianza kutembea miguu mitupu utatembea vivyo hivyo? Are you commenting on facts or just Sansa's comments? The data on Huduma ID is just the usual data you are asked when taking your National ID, NHIF, NSSF, Drivers LC, KRA data etc. they dont care about your tribe, but your residency On Census, you will be asked about your tribe. It is not compulsory to ans in 2009, when the interviewer asked me that question i answered Kenyan, and we moved on. And yes, decennial census is a practice done world over. Most countries in the world carry out census every 10 years per the set guidelines of the UN(UNSD) and ofcourse the legislation. That data in KE is also used to determine constituency boundaries, county funds allocations, balance the ethnic compositions in govt offices (tall order) etc. In countries such as the US, they would like to know the country's composition of races for affirmative action policies. In my case as a private citizen, I would just be interested in knowing if the Ogieks are currently extinct or there indeed is a population of these people. And if Ahmed Nasir is right that the Somali population is now the majority in the country. Not because the information adds any value to my glass of water, but for curiosity's sake ala! the govt owes that to me as a tax payer Mwalimu Julius Nyerere was indeed a gem in matters of leadership and cohesion. Serikali haijengi makanisa wala mskiti, kwa hivyo swali la dini halihusu serikali. Swala la kabila ni upumbavu tu. Uliza @murchr kama anataka kutambika! for you who don't understand swahili... Kutambika is to offer sacrifices to your gods. Together with useless information... why not collect the heights of individuals as well as the color of their skins. Population numbers are important in delimiting counties and constituencies but not the make up of those constituencies. I really dont care much about Nyerereism because his reasoning failed....flat footed and continues to fail in this day. Actually its very one dimensional. Policies and laws are made out of people's beliefs, cultures and customs otherwise we'd not be talking about Kadhi courts; customary laws(marriage laws); business/insurance laws forms of banking(islamic) Religious forms of education, if serikali cared less about a composition of a people. There's a reason we do not have hindu inspired customs enshrined in our law and apart from the selfish reason of our political clan, the UN also wants to know what languages are spoken in the world hence my statement that its not unique to have an ethnicity question on those forms. the Star wrote:“We are currently developing the concept note guiding the process, which will start after the census,” Chebukati said.
Budalang’i MP Raphael Wanjala, whose constituency may also be scrapped, told the Star they have formed a caucus of “victim MPs”.
They will lobby for retention of their areas even if it will require amending sections of the law, he said.
“I raised the issue with the IEBC chair. He told me they have no choice... unless the Constitution is reviewed,” Wanjala said.
“In Busia, every constituency is a subtribe. It is not easy for these subtribes to live with other sub-tribes.”
Cities and major towns are likely to be major beneficiaries, owing to their over-population occasioned by frequent movement from rural to urban areas.
Wanjala appealed to Budalang’i residents who moved to neighbouring counties or are working in other towns to come back during the census to be counted. I think its prudent for the govt to verify R.Wanjala's claims otherwise some people will be left out "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Who has registered? I'm waiting for the last day, then we flock to the centers. We get an extension, then we wait for the last day, then we flock. Then another extension... Till the whole 'edifice' collapses. Tangu lini serikali kuhudumia mwananchi? PR aside! Ala! Unaishi kwa kichaka kipi ambacho hakina huduma yeyote ya serikali? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:tinker wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:These people don't think these things through do they? Have they considered the logistics of this project kwanza ati pilot program to run from Feb 15th. Why so soon. Why not prepare well?
And what does my Ethnicity on my ID have to do with anything?
What about those in the diaspora. I can't imagine the pain of having to look for all this info then deal with the embassy people who are just the worst at doing the simplest things.
Thank God my attempts to get the ID in December were not successful since it looks like Id have had to repeat the whole damn process!!!
In case you were wondering why I wasn't successful in December ... it was because this same huduma center that will be handling all our info was closed for ID services from mid December to maybe the second week of January. How does that make sense?
Arghgh I am so irritated. Where did you get that? On the form, there is nothing about Ethnicity just the normal details on your ID. By the way, you will NEED your ID, Birth Certificate and NSSF NHIF NEMIS and all those gvt issued cards. I think the Ethnicity question comes in during census. Its typical across the world. We need to know if Ogieks are now extinct.As at yesterday, those in the diaspora will fill in the forms online and get the Huduma number once they return at their Assistant Chief's office. At the office you return your form - the attache there will verify your docs and take your 10 finger prints. After finishing you walk out with just what you brought in DO NOT EXPECT a card Serikali inahaja gani na makabila ya watu? Which service is specific to Kabila fulani? or Religion... if you are not building temples and churches... kazi ya hiyo data ni nini? ati it's world over! so watu wakianza kutembea miguu mitupu utatembea vivyo hivyo? Are you commenting on facts or just Sansa's comments? The data on Huduma ID is just the usual data you are asked when taking your National ID, NHIF, NSSF, Drivers LC, KRA data etc. they dont care about your tribe, but your residency On Census, you will be asked about your tribe. It is not compulsory to ans in 2009, when the interviewer asked me that question i answered Kenyan, and we moved on. And yes, decennial census is a practice done world over. Most countries in the world carry out census every 10 years per the set guidelines of the UN(UNSD) and ofcourse the legislation. That data in KE is also used to determine constituency boundaries, county funds allocations, balance the ethnic compositions in govt offices (tall order) etc. In countries such as the US, they would like to know the country's composition of races for affirmative action policies. In my case as a private citizen, I would just be interested in knowing if the Ogieks are currently extinct or there indeed is a population of these people. And if Ahmed Nasir is right that the Somali population is now the majority in the country. Not because the information adds any value to my glass of water, but for curiosity's sake ala! the govt owes that to me as a tax payer Mwalimu Julius Nyerere was indeed a gem in matters of leadership and cohesion. Serikali haijengi makanisa wala mskiti, kwa hivyo swali la dini halihusu serikali. Swala la kabila ni upumbavu tu. Uliza @murchr kama anataka kutambika! for you who don't understand swahili... Kutambika is to offer sacrifices to your gods. Together with useless information... why not collect the heights of individuals as well as the color of their skins. Population numbers are important in delimiting counties and constituencies but not the make up of those constituencies. I really dont care much about Nyerereism because his reasoning failed....flat footed and continues to fail in this day. Actually its very one dimensional. Policies and laws are made out of people's beliefs, cultures and customs otherwise we'd not be talking about Kadhi courts; customary laws(marriage laws); business/insurance laws forms of banking(islamic) Religious forms of education, if serikali cared less about a composition of a people. There's a reason we do not have hindu inspired customs enshrined in our law and apart from the selfish reason of our political clan, the UN also wants to know what languages are spoken in the world hence my statement that its not unique to have an ethnicity question on those forms. the Star wrote:“We are currently developing the concept note guiding the process, which will start after the census,” Chebukati said.
Budalang’i MP Raphael Wanjala, whose constituency may also be scrapped, told the Star they have formed a caucus of “victim MPs”.
They will lobby for retention of their areas even if it will require amending sections of the law, he said.
“I raised the issue with the IEBC chair. He told me they have no choice... unless the Constitution is reviewed,” Wanjala said.
“In Busia, every constituency is a subtribe. It is not easy for these subtribes to live with other sub-tribes.”
Cities and major towns are likely to be major beneficiaries, owing to their over-population occasioned by frequent movement from rural to urban areas.
Wanjala appealed to Budalang’i residents who moved to neighbouring counties or are working in other towns to come back during the census to be counted. I think its prudent for the govt to verify R.Wanjala's claims otherwise some people will be left out His economic policies failed but not his nation building ones! We are not referring to the economics he hailed but rather what he did to unite Tanzanians. We have worshiped the idol that is ethnicity not it's eating us... even subtribes want their own constituencies! please! We have hindu extracted phrases in our national anthem not based on their numbers or the fact that they were hindus but rather that it fit the glove. We have a national anthem that is extracted from a Pokomo dirge... not based on numbers but based on appeal! we don't need to know the numbers of people in ethnic groups so as to appropriate their culture... appropriation of culture is not actually a government function (wameshindwa na vitu vya msingi kama shule na hospitali - wanajipatia kazi on culture). All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Who has registered? I'm waiting for the last day, then we flock to the centers. We get an extension, then we wait for the last day, then we flock. Then another extension... Till the whole 'edifice' collapses. Tangu lini serikali kuhudumia mwananchi? PR aside! Ala! Unaishi kwa kichaka kipi ambacho hakina huduma yeyote ya serikali? Si kichaka. Ni tundu la bwana Trump, ndugu yangu. Kila ninapoangalia, shughuli kubwa ni kuongeza ushuru kiasi cha unyanyasaji, kisha, ufujaji, na ufunikie na ukaidi wa askari wanaojificha nyuma ya 'utumishi kwa matajiri'. Ebu nenda kwa chifu bila rushwa. Au nenda kuripoti kwenye OB ya polisi uone ada utakayotozwa! Serikali haina huduma wala huruma!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:tinker wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:These people don't think these things through do they? Have they considered the logistics of this project kwanza ati pilot program to run from Feb 15th. Why so soon. Why not prepare well?
And what does my Ethnicity on my ID have to do with anything?
What about those in the diaspora. I can't imagine the pain of having to look for all this info then deal with the embassy people who are just the worst at doing the simplest things.
Thank God my attempts to get the ID in December were not successful since it looks like Id have had to repeat the whole damn process!!!
In case you were wondering why I wasn't successful in December ... it was because this same huduma center that will be handling all our info was closed for ID services from mid December to maybe the second week of January. How does that make sense?
Arghgh I am so irritated. Where did you get that? On the form, there is nothing about Ethnicity just the normal details on your ID. By the way, you will NEED your ID, Birth Certificate and NSSF NHIF NEMIS and all those gvt issued cards. I think the Ethnicity question comes in during census. Its typical across the world. We need to know if Ogieks are now extinct.As at yesterday, those in the diaspora will fill in the forms online and get the Huduma number once they return at their Assistant Chief's office. At the office you return your form - the attache there will verify your docs and take your 10 finger prints. After finishing you walk out with just what you brought in DO NOT EXPECT a card Serikali inahaja gani na makabila ya watu? Which service is specific to Kabila fulani? or Religion... if you are not building temples and churches... kazi ya hiyo data ni nini? ati it's world over! so watu wakianza kutembea miguu mitupu utatembea vivyo hivyo? Are you commenting on facts or just Sansa's comments? The data on Huduma ID is just the usual data you are asked when taking your National ID, NHIF, NSSF, Drivers LC, KRA data etc. they dont care about your tribe, but your residency On Census, you will be asked about your tribe. It is not compulsory to ans in 2009, when the interviewer asked me that question i answered Kenyan, and we moved on. And yes, decennial census is a practice done world over. Most countries in the world carry out census every 10 years per the set guidelines of the UN(UNSD) and ofcourse the legislation. That data in KE is also used to determine constituency boundaries, county funds allocations, balance the ethnic compositions in govt offices (tall order) etc. In countries such as the US, they would like to know the country's composition of races for affirmative action policies. In my case as a private citizen, I would just be interested in knowing if the Ogieks are currently extinct or there indeed is a population of these people. And if Ahmed Nasir is right that the Somali population is now the majority in the country. Not because the information adds any value to my glass of water, but for curiosity's sake ala! the govt owes that to me as a tax payer Mwalimu Julius Nyerere was indeed a gem in matters of leadership and cohesion. Serikali haijengi makanisa wala mskiti, kwa hivyo swali la dini halihusu serikali. Swala la kabila ni upumbavu tu. Uliza @murchr kama anataka kutambika! for you who don't understand swahili... Kutambika is to offer sacrifices to your gods. Together with useless information... why not collect the heights of individuals as well as the color of their skins. Population numbers are important in delimiting counties and constituencies but not the make up of those constituencies. I really dont care much about Nyerereism because his reasoning failed....flat footed and continues to fail in this day. Actually its very one dimensional. Policies and laws are made out of people's beliefs, cultures and customs otherwise we'd not be talking about Kadhi courts; customary laws(marriage laws); business/insurance laws forms of banking(islamic) Religious forms of education, if serikali cared less about a composition of a people. There's a reason we do not have hindu inspired customs enshrined in our law and apart from the selfish reason of our political clan, the UN also wants to know what languages are spoken in the world hence my statement that its not unique to have an ethnicity question on those forms. the Star wrote:“We are currently developing the concept note guiding the process, which will start after the census,” Chebukati said.
Budalang’i MP Raphael Wanjala, whose constituency may also be scrapped, told the Star they have formed a caucus of “victim MPs”.
They will lobby for retention of their areas even if it will require amending sections of the law, he said.
“I raised the issue with the IEBC chair. He told me they have no choice... unless the Constitution is reviewed,” Wanjala said.
“In Busia, every constituency is a subtribe. It is not easy for these subtribes to live with other sub-tribes.”
Cities and major towns are likely to be major beneficiaries, owing to their over-population occasioned by frequent movement from rural to urban areas.
Wanjala appealed to Budalang’i residents who moved to neighbouring counties or are working in other towns to come back during the census to be counted. I think its prudent for the govt to verify R.Wanjala's claims otherwise some people will be left out His economic policies failed but not his nation building ones! We are not referring to the economics he hailed but rather what he did to unite Tanzanians. We have worshiped the idol that is ethnicity not it's eating us... even subtribes want their own constituencies! please! We have hindu extracted phrases in our national anthem not based on their numbers or the fact that they were hindus but rather that it fit the glove. We have a national anthem that is extracted from a Pokomo dirge... not based on numbers but based on appeal! we don't need to know the numbers of people in ethnic groups so as to appropriate their culture... appropriation of culture is not actually a government function (wameshindwa na vitu vya msingi kama shule na hospitali - wanajipatia kazi on culture). My view,...and I could be wrong....TZ is a time bomb. The Tanganyika Zanzibar union is very cosmetic for example and its just a matter of time and you'll here it. TZ does make a count of its population by the 125 tribes they have. They even go further to classify their muslims by sect (sunni, shi'a bla bla)...that has in no way fostered unity as Tzdians or not. Their unity has been brought about by values as a community. Now, we have borrowed Hindu phrases and pokomo lullaby's but thats it. Numbers help in as far as the examples I gave laws and policies. What cannot be helped is the use of that data for selfish reasons eg politicians. Who would want to loose the CDF kitty? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Who has registered? I'm waiting for the last day, then we flock to the centers. We get an extension, then we wait for the last day, then we flock. Then another extension... Till the whole 'edifice' collapses. Tangu lini serikali kuhudumia mwananchi? PR aside! Ala! Unaishi kwa kichaka kipi ambacho hakina huduma yeyote ya serikali? Si kichaka. Ni tundu la bwana Trump, ndugu yangu. Kila ninapoangalia, shughuli kubwa ni kuongeza ushuru kiasi cha unyanyasaji, kisha, ufujaji, na ufunikie na ukaidi wa askari wanaojificha nyuma ya 'utumishi kwa matajiri'. Ebu nenda kwa chifu bila rushwa. Au nenda kuripoti kwenye OB ya polisi uone ada utakayotozwa! Serikali haina huduma wala huruma! Sasa wewe haunge taka wenzako wafaidike na huduma kama SSN? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Who has registered? I'm waiting for the last day, then we flock to the centers. We get an extension, then we wait for the last day, then we flock. Then another extension... Till the whole 'edifice' collapses. Tangu lini serikali kuhudumia mwananchi? PR aside! Ala! Unaishi kwa kichaka kipi ambacho hakina huduma yeyote ya serikali? Si kichaka. Ni tundu la bwana Trump, ndugu yangu. Kila ninapoangalia, shughuli kubwa ni kuongeza ushuru kiasi cha unyanyasaji, kisha, ufujaji, na ufunikie na ukaidi wa askari wanaojificha nyuma ya 'utumishi kwa matajiri'. Ebu nenda kwa chifu bila rushwa. Au nenda kuripoti kwenye OB ya polisi uone ada utakayotozwa! Serikali haina huduma wala huruma! Sasa wewe haunge taka wenzako wafaidike na huduma kama SSN? Hapa Kenya, SSN haina faida yoyote ile kwa mwananchi, ambayo haipatakani kwa njia badala zinazotumika. Ni lazima tukumbuke kwamba serikali ina kipimo ambacho sharti umma izingatie. Kwa mfano, kuna mwelekeo flani ambao unajitokeza wa kuwa na mtu/shirika au serikali kuwa na hela zote au nyingi za umma kwa njia ya kieletroniki. Hii inamaana kwamba mwananchi was kawaida hawezi kutumia raslimali zake atakavyo. Je, huu ni uhuru? Sasa itakuwaje iwapo kuna mtu mmoja ambaye atakuwa na habari zote muhimu kuhusu mwananchi flani kwenye 'data base' yake? Kuna hitilafu kubwa sana ya kisiasa na hii 'huduma number'. Tazama serikali ikitumia jina la kejeli: "huduma"
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Training to commence on Monday. Nice read from Ndemo https://www.businessdail...34752-hst1ytz/index.html"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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[quote=murchr]Training to commence on Monday. Nice read from Ndemo https://www.businessdail...4752-hst1ytz/index.html[/quote] Please give these young kids money it's better than buying towels for a dam. That is the only good thing about this mess. You are going to pay young boys and girls a wage. Even if what they are doing is doomed to failure. I am not boarding. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Will the driving Licence be covered under this card too?
BBI will solve it :)
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