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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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kaka2za wrote:newfarer wrote:if Uhuru refuses to sign the post ponement Bill, he will be the most insensitive President in the world today. the fuel vat is just an economy killer Can't sign and won't sign Then it will be law after 14 days.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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simonkabz wrote:My honest opinion, the hike has not seen a reduction of private motorists in Nairobi, in fact, I feel the traffic is worse.
Unye ashikilie hapo kidogo, we see how it goes. It's too early, people are still using fuel bought on 31st August. Moreover, people are still loaded with Aug salary If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Higher fuel prices are good for some of us since our roads will now be less clogged by jalopies from the struggling middle class and we will now be able to cruise in our machines in comfort. Infact they should increase petrol to 200 bob to free our roads. I know yours is a selfish thought but it's not just about your vehicle and jalopies. Infact an increment of 14/- is not that great for someone with a jalopy. The problem is the ripple effect. You raise the price of fuel, inflation goes up, cartels take advantage... it's just a mess. But what I'm wondering is, when we defer this VAT to 2020, what will be different in 2020,we will still cry the same way. And what will replace it now because the money is still needed? Maybe increase of VAT to 18% from 16? BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:Higher fuel prices are good for some of us since our roads will now be less clogged by jalopies from the struggling middle class and we will now be able to cruise in our machines in comfort. Infact they should increase petrol to 200 bob to free our roads. I know yours is a selfish thought but it's not just about your vehicle and jalopies. Infact an increment of 14/- is not that great for someone with a jalopy. The problem is the ripple effect. You raise the price of fuel, inflation goes up, cartels take advantage... it's just a mess. But what I'm wondering is, when we defer this VAT to 2020, what will be different in 2020,we will still cry the same way. And what will replace it now because the money is still needed? Maybe increase of VAT to 18% from 16? We will be 10 years away becoming a proper middle income country. In short, pesa haitakua shid. Our money spending will be highly inelastic If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Swenani wrote:2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:Higher fuel prices are good for some of us since our roads will now be less clogged by jalopies from the struggling middle class and we will now be able to cruise in our machines in comfort. Infact they should increase petrol to 200 bob to free our roads. I know yours is a selfish thought but it's not just about your vehicle and jalopies. Infact an increment of 14/- is not that great for someone with a jalopy. The problem is the ripple effect. You raise the price of fuel, inflation goes up, cartels take advantage... it's just a mess. But what I'm wondering is, when we defer this VAT to 2020, what will be different in 2020,we will still cry the same way. And what will replace it now because the money is still needed? Maybe increase of VAT to 18% from 16? We will be 10 years away of becoming a proper middle income country. In short, pesa haitakua shid. Our money spending will be highly inelastic Nope. In 2020 election campaigns will be in high gear and a fuel tax at that time will be a perfect reason fro wanjiku to kick out jumbiree. It's the 2022 chess game inapangwa.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Kenyan drivers are crossing to UG and TZ to jaza tank @ 110/- per litre. Makes sense if you live nearby or you do so. E transport to and fro... BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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2012 wrote:Kenyan drivers are crossing to UG and TZ to jaza tank @ 110/- per litre. Makes sense if you live nearby or you do so. E transport to and fro... I foresee alot of smuggling of fuel at the border especially by boda boda guys using the panya routes. A boda boda can carry 4 x 20l jerricans of fuel - petrol, diesel or kerosene. If he sells at 10 bob margin thats 800 bob per trip. I think soon all cars, matatus and lorries operating at the border will be fueled using the smuggled fuel.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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2012 wrote:Kenyan drivers are crossing to UG and TZ to jaza tank @ 110/- per litre. Makes sense if you live nearby or you do so. E transport to and fro... Favours those near the border and not seeing it as inconvenience. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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If the queues I saw today at Petro stations are anything to go by, then as a govt, I would only be worried about 'steady' supply and not reducing the 16% VAT. #BetterExpensiveEneryThanNone at all. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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