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hamburglar wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Just a casual observation;
The fellow who massacred people in Texas USA three days ago was a 'devout' Atheist!
A person can be good or bad, rich or poor regardless of whether or not - they are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Budhist, Animist, Agnostics, Atheist etc Of course there are "evil" atheists. Nobody is 100% clean in this world. I am not saying that atheists are exempt from their share of evil but the vast majority of atheists compared to theists are morally upright people with a conscience that does not rely on believing in a bearded man in the sky to do good. We do good because it's the right thing to do, not because some god is watching us and keeping tabs on us which he will use to either deny or give us entry into some heaven. That is the worst type of hypocrisy ever. Will atheist consider me immoral or moral if I steal food to feed a starving kid who is facing death? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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hamburglar wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Just a casual observation;
The fellow who massacred people in Texas USA three days ago was a 'devout' Atheist!
A person can be good or bad, rich or poor regardless of whether or not - they are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Budhist, Animist, Agnostics, Atheist etc Of course there are "evil" atheists. Nobody is 100% clean in this world. I am not saying that atheists are exempt from their share of evil but the vast majority of atheists compared to theists are morally upright people with a conscience that does not rely on believing in a bearded man in the sky to do good. We do good because it's the right thing to do, not because some god is watching us and keeping tabs on us which he will use to either deny or give us entry into some heaven. That is the worst type of hypocrisy ever. So what % of atheist are evil people?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,582
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I've been a big supporter of "mainstream" in Kenya, this may survive better eventually than what is going on in the west, they do all in all carry out some key social duties when there is no conmanship, shouting, ruka rukaring, curing aids, etc Evangelicals will still encounter problems, indeed, Peter Drucker had some unreserved admiration for the salvation army and there social programs, but evangelist their style inaukora mingi sana though you can't say all, 100% etc but they lie so bluntly. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Swenani wrote:hamburglar wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Just a casual observation;
The fellow who massacred people in Texas USA three days ago was a 'devout' Atheist!
A person can be good or bad, rich or poor regardless of whether or not - they are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Budhist, Animist, Agnostics, Atheist etc Of course there are "evil" atheists. Nobody is 100% clean in this world. I am not saying that atheists are exempt from their share of evil but the vast majority of atheists compared to theists are morally upright people with a conscience that does not rely on believing in a bearded man in the sky to do good. We do good because it's the right thing to do, not because some god is watching us and keeping tabs on us which he will use to either deny or give us entry into some heaven. That is the worst type of hypocrisy ever. Will atheist consider me immoral or moral if I steal food to feed a starving kid who is facing death? Stealing is obviously immoral as well as illegal. There are obviously better channels to pursue to feed those starving children. Remember, it's not your fault that the child is starving, but don't commit a crime to solve such a situation, you can empathize and maybe even feel sorry for the child but don't steal. Look for alternative ways. There are many ways and enough resources around the world to end child hunger but people just don't care enough to solve this epidemic. Maybe if Christians would stop giving pastors 10% of their earnings to buy mansions and instead think of ways to feed these starving children with that money, just maybe we could be on to something. But unfortunately, the stupid bible tells them to give their church (read pastors) their money and they are either too lazy or too brainwashed to think outside the box and come up with ways to help the needy instead of buying kanyari a range rover or kyuna a mansion. Problem with religious people is they don't think rationally. Blind faith suppresses their common sense. That child will continue to starve as they drive past him from church on sunday morning where they were entertained by actor/conman/thug Kanyari for a fee of 10% of their monthly earnings. Very unfortunate. Sometimes I wonder why religious people are so ignorant. Does religion really dumb down people that much?
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AlphDoti wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Just a casual observation;
The fellow who massacred people in Texas USA three days ago was a 'devout' Atheist!
A person can be good or bad, rich or poor regardless of whether or not - they are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Budhist, Animist, Agnostics, Atheist etc I'm glad it is @Ngalaka who is saying this. At last you made the realization. Alhamdullillah! Mbona sikupati!, Uko na maana gani ndugu! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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'devout' Atheist? is that paradox? devout means 'totally committed to a cause or belief'... perhaps what you meant was 'a devout anti-theist'. Since you are actually an Atheist.... to all other Gods but yours! How devout can you be to not believing in Buddha? Or the Gods of the Aboriginal tribes of Australia or Traditional American Indian Gods? Perhaps - if you are anti-God's of Aboriginal tribes of Micronesia - you would be an anti-theist. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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@hamburglar You want to abolish religions from a religious mindset?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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There is a gospel extravaganza coming up at the Citam-Karen featuring the legendary Don Moen.
The reason you are reading this here is because a group of friends, all atheists, are attending. Apparently they love Don Moen from their theist days.
For the record am not an atheist. Though my take on all religions is that they are outright frauds.
Lesson to @Ham : You can be an atheist and still find some religious stuff cool. No need for hating religious folks. What they need is love.
Lesson to religious fanatics : You don't push your faith to non-believers. You pull them to your faith. Its all about the packaging.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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FRM2011 wrote:
Lesson to religious fanatics : You don't push your faith to non-believers. You pull them to your faith. Its all about the packaging.
So in your view, all religions are frauds and here you are with advice on recruitment.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Mtu Biz wrote:@hamburglar
You want to abolish religions from a religious mindset?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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