Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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We make babies so that we can lighten our testicles and if you do not believe it, go weigh your balls and have that compared with the mass of your married friend's set.......God knows i miss kids and that i would give all i am worth just to have a couple of them around me all the time. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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@Ham,
BREAKING NEWS
a) there are many families, some large, where the parents afford all
manner of luxuries - trips and all - big families notwithstanding,
b) there are couples with no kids at all but are already suffering
financially and cant afford juicy steaks and vacations to exotic places
which seem very important to you.
You are mixing up personal financial management and parenting, where the latter is not just a monetary undertaking but includes the former and much much more.
Your friends are struggling to balance both and unfortunately they have become your S.I unit of parenting and financial management. Sadly, you have therefore reached this (your) life-defining conclusion (to us it isn't) based on a very narrow population sample of your immediate ecosystem of friends) and little wonder your results are so terribly flawed.
You need to get NEW PEERs, otherwise just by observing this bubble of your close friends you will be caught up in these flawed self-reinforcing conclusions that are peculiar to the group rather applicable to the wider humanity.
Give me a woman who has raised kids and one who hasn't, and don't tell me who is who and after observing how they relate with other people (kindness, patience, tolerance, selflessness,etc) I can tell if she is a parent or a soul whose world revolves around them.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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faa wrote:@hamburger
Life is not all about money.
Going to Java and trips is nothing
Kids don't come with brokeness. They bring along blessings as they themselves are blessings and Gifts.
Lack of money,by your colleagues, is due to their bad decisions.
If you don't like to get kids, its your decision stick with it. Dont let anyone force you to.
However from your post, you seem to have some angerness,you think your friends are broke because of kids. You have some resentment,probably caused by your inability to do something.
Uuuuuh. Low blow Alert. I am not impotent if that's what you are alluding to, I hope not anyway. But even if I were, why is it such a big deal? You say it with such contempt like its something to be ashamed of, why would it be? Why would somebody be ashamed of a medical condition that they have no control over? You sound like you are one of those people that stigmatizes people with medical conditions because in your retrogressive mind, a man that cannot father kids is not man enough. How sad is that thought process? And yes, I know that money is not everything but it becomes a bug deal when you need it and you don't have it. Especially for people with kids.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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aemathenge wrote:hamburglar wrote:I have never knocked up any girl.
And besides, I don't think there is any shame if someone is not able to father kids or shoot blanks as you describe it.
It doesn't mean that he is less of a man than other men as you are trying to insinuate, it just means that he has an unfortunate (or fortunate) medical condition which is nothing to be ashamed of.
It's not the 1950's anymore when men were revered as the hegoat (pun intended) of the village because they could impregnate 11 wives and sire 49 kids to prove how manly they were.
It's a civilized generation Now and not being able to have kids is not taboo anymore. Lol.
And why would the woman have to be rich by the way? You lost me there kidogo. My friend has pigeon holed you and your kind and moved on to matters of national importance like the management of the Machizi Express. However, I do have a few queries of my own, and the rich lady can afford to bring up a child while you posit you can’t. You can afford to pay for exotic tourism but you cannot afford to bring up a child. You do not know whether you can father a child, you have never fathered one. Which means you have never tried. What was that major fall out you had with your mother and father that you do not wish to “birth” them? You look down with disdain on people who have children, and lend out thousands to them, yet you cannot afford to bring up your own. Your friends, peers, and colleagues prefer raising children. Why then are they your friends, peers and colleagues? Shouldn’t you be fraternizing with your kind? And what kind would that be? You do not mention the gender of your “fiancee” are you gay? I never said I can't raise kids, I know I have the capability of raising a few kids comfortably if I ever chose to go down that path. But I DONT want any kids. By choice and not because of financial circumstances or any other reason that some people are trying to pass. There was no fall out with my parents, I love my parents very much but that should not be a basis of getting children. You get children because you want to get children and not to "birth" your mother and father. That is one of the reasons why we end up with people having kids they cannot raise. Because they wanted to "birth" their mother and father even without analyzing their situation to see if they can afford that "luxury". We are supposed to be an enlightened generation, why are we still clinging to these old fashioned traditions of "birthing" our fathers and mothers even when we can't really afford the said luxury? What purpose does it serve to have a son named after my father if I can't put food on the table for him? And my fiance is female, a really really hot woman if you ask me, lol, so no am not gay, am very much heterosexual. I know a few chics from my past who can attest to that.  And even I were gay, why would it really be a problem? Gay people are human beings. They are very bit as human as you and I. It's about time people stopped this homophobia. It's not OK to discriminate against people based on their sexual preference.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/27/2016 Posts: 274 Location: Pub
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This damn interesting. To be honest i don't know why i need kids but i am sure il get one someday. May be 1 or 2 @hamburglar as much as i side with you you are a minority here and i am sure you will be roasted. I guess you were ready for this. The society is very harsh on such arguments. Look at the arguments in this thread, very personal: they are attacking you, your thoughts, your ability to father a kid, your partner and your friends.. Thats the SOCIETY!! I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Njung'e wrote:We make babies so that we can lighten our testicles and if you do not believe it, go weigh your balls and have that compared with the mass of your married friend's set.......God knows i miss kids and that i would give all i am worth just to have a couple of them around me all the time. Having big heavy balls is actually considered macho so I would rather have big balls. And where pray tell is this place where people weigh their balls at? Lolest.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:aemathenge wrote:hamburglar wrote:I have never knocked up any girl.
And besides, I don't think there is any shame if someone is not able to father kids or shoot blanks as you describe it.
It doesn't mean that he is less of a man than other men as you are trying to insinuate, it just means that he has an unfortunate (or fortunate) medical condition which is nothing to be ashamed of.
It's not the 1950's anymore when men were revered as the hegoat (pun intended) of the village because they could impregnate 11 wives and sire 49 kids to prove how manly they were.
It's a civilized generation Now and not being able to have kids is not taboo anymore. Lol.
And why would the woman have to be rich by the way? You lost me there kidogo. My friend has pigeon holed you and your kind and moved on to matters of national importance like the management of the Machizi Express. However, I do have a few queries of my own, and the rich lady can afford to bring up a child while you posit you can’t. You can afford to pay for exotic tourism but you cannot afford to bring up a child. You do not know whether you can father a child, you have never fathered one. Which means you have never tried. What was that major fall out you had with your mother and father that you do not wish to “birth” them? You look down with disdain on people who have children, and lend out thousands to them, yet you cannot afford to bring up your own. Your friends, peers, and colleagues prefer raising children. Why then are they your friends, peers and colleagues? Shouldn’t you be fraternizing with your kind? And what kind would that be? You do not mention the gender of your “fiancee” are you gay? I never said I can't raise kids, I know I have the capability of raising a few kids comfortably if I ever chose to go down that path. But I DONT want any kids. By choice and not because of financial circumstances or any other reason that some people are trying to pass. There was no fall out with my parents, I love my parents very much but that should not be a basis of getting children. You get children because you want to get children and not to "birth" your mother and father. That is one of the reasons why we end up with people having kids they cannot raise. Because they wanted to "birth" their mother and father even without analyzing their situation to see if they can afford that "luxury". We are supposed to be an enlightened generation, why are we still clinging to these old fashioned traditions of "birthing" our fathers and mothers even when we can't really afford the said luxury? What purpose does it serve to have a son named after my father if I can't put food on the table for him? And my fiance is female, a really really hot woman if you ask me, lol, so no am not gay, am very much heterosexual. I know a few chics from my past who can attest to that. And even I were gay, why would it really be a problem? Gay people are human beings. They are very bit as human as you and I. It's about time people stopped this homophobia. It's not OK to discriminate against people based on their sexual preference. i tend to think Idiocracy was prophetic!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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There is no relationship between being rich/wealthy and having kids. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Ryko wrote:This damn interesting. To be honest i don't know why i need kids but i am sure il get one someday. May be 1 or 2
@hamburglar as much as i side with you you are a minority here and i am sure you will be roasted. I guess you were ready for this. The society is very harsh on such arguments.
Look at the arguments in this thread, very personal: they are attacking you, your thoughts, your ability to father a kid, your partner and your friends.. Thats the SOCIETY!!
Thank you. Society will always attack you and even get personal if you dare challenge what they think is an ideal to its survival. Society likes to make people conform to their ways, anybody that rebels is the enemy and needs to be shot down. Instead of debating the merits and demerits of having kids, there have been subtle and not so subtle attacks thrown my way. I have been called gay, impotent, materialistic and other not so flattering names just because of my stance. Which is a little unfortunate.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Intelligentsia wrote:@Ham,
BREAKING NEWS
a) there are many families, some large, where the parents afford all
manner of luxuries - trips and all - big families notwithstanding,
b) there are couples with no kids at all but are already suffering
financially and cant afford juicy steaks and vacations to exotic places
which seem very important to you.
You are mixing up personal financial management and parenting, where the latter is not just a monetary undertaking but includes the former and much much more.
Your friends are struggling to balance both and unfortunately they have become your S.I unit of parenting and financial management. Sadly, you have therefore reached this (your) life-defining conclusion (to us it isn't) based on a very narrow population sample of your immediate ecosystem of friends) and little wonder your results are so terribly flawed.
You need to get NEW PEERs, otherwise just by observing this bubble of your close friends you will be caught up in these flawed self-reinforcing conclusions that are peculiar to the group rather applicable to the wider humanity.
Give me a woman who has raised kids and one who hasn't, and don't tell me who is who and after observing how they relate with other people (kindness, patience, tolerance, selflessness,etc) I can tell if she is a parent or a soul whose world revolves around them. @ham, the best piece is this one by @Intelligentsia. I've been reading your posts and I hope the actions of few sample friends you know, and your own parents mess is not what destroyed your perception of the true image of family. And when you look at them, you think that family is what they are!
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