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Djinn
#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:48:00 AM
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@pablo - exactly! When it comes to 'rights' - there has to be equity and you have to give in. When there is a strange noise in the middle of the night....those equalities vanish and its your ribs that get elbowed to go and see what it is.

The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
simonkabz
#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:48:00 AM
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I would like to state,and categorically,without a shadow of doubt,that Djinn amecum point hapo! Like I stated earlier,men havent changed much,same ol fakas,though with a reduced frequency in the face of the killer disease. Women on the other hand,have gotten the equality thingy all wrong. Trust me,its only a woman who can singlehandedly hold a family 2getha. The woman becomes a b**** n the family goes to the dogs. Look at it ths way,who would u rather cheats,the man or the wify? Who loses respect n dignity bigtime? Todays woman has no clue,ni kushindana na mandume tu...

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Much Know
#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:27:00 AM
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Nothing can stop an idea whose time is gone(much know 2009 sk). Why deny mans propensity to multi relationships?and womans need to bed the best male to for strong genetic propagation? A certificate? We as modern ladies and gentleman should be discussing how to go foward and not locked up in outdated nonsense. Its like neanderthals discussing how cromagnons(spelling?) are not eating their dead. Evolve with the flow! I for one will not marry though i enjoy strong polyamorous(sp?) relationships.

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The General
#24 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:31:00 AM
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@ Djinn,

Thanks for your comments and thank you very much for pushing @Leona to make this statement:

But i think its also time men played their role as bread winners(doesnt have to be sole bread winner,but bread winner all the same)

This has had a great contribution to the current situation.

There is a breed of men that just wants to sit back and 'CHILL'

The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
Djinn
#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:46:00 AM
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@leona & The General - I agree - there are 'Andy Capps' - a dime a dozen - in fact I know a few and wish I could kick their asses into next year...they live off their women's sweat - you see it alot in rural areas where the women work hard on the farms,sell some produce and then their men suddenly appear with parched lips....such men in such unions make others look bad. I personally would not in good conscience,even if Mrs D was earning 10x my pay,just sit back (even if she asked me to) and do nothing. I'd do something - even if it is not noticed - I'd take the kids for ice cream,buy them story books,spend time with them (and going back to women,the empowered rich mothers - they think enrolling a kid for music classes,ballet,school trips is what they should be spending on - rather what they should be spending is not legal tender but TIMe). So anyway,those 'kazi bure' guys - they deserve to be left. But if you already pull your weight in the home,treat your wife respectfully,and then some issue about whether you have a drink with your friends,or whether you do this or that gets carried out of the homestead to the Oracles of doom...

The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
Djinn
#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:58:00 AM
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@SimonKabz - yes. And we all see it in some instances where the Mrs is sometimes so bold as to confront the man in public - and I do not mean that the man has the final word...but lets take an evening out - Mr and Mrs and their friends who are also married couples - in an inebriated state Mr 3 decided to throw a round and gets chided by his wife openly for spending too much. Mr 2 offers to take Mr and Mrs 1 and 3 all the way home and his wife gives him hell for it (in both cases,since they contribute to the home kitty,and have a say,they take it way too far....I have seen this happen. And sometimes you see very awkward couples going out because of fear of such outbursts....

The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
The General
#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:05:00 PM
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'Meal Timing Men'

They don't want to work,but they want to eat....

Brother,kazi ni kazi,amka ufanye kazi.


The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
gogeta
#28 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:20:00 PM
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@ the General you are so right. when the women work their backs off and provide for these men who just wants to sit back and enjoy...the men start complaining...oo my wife spends most of her time with her womenfolk..ooo she's in the office more times than she is at home.

if only we men..just the women....cd also change with the environment..you know support the family and marriage together then we would not have all these separations and divorces.


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sheep
#29 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:38:00 PM
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Mmhhhh....Meal Timing Man...I like that
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Kamaa
#30 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:45:00 PM
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yes.. some men don't deserve to be men..

like our brothers from (i think) turkana or samburu who were aired by ntv sometimes back...

they wake up and attend some good for nothing 'barazas' while their wives toils day in day out...

honestly it is a shame to mankind...

nevertheless,majority of the so called modern women are pain points as they have a whole new meaning to the management of homes... the fact that a woman is also a bread winner does not in any way make her superior to the man and disavow all the respect and privileges that comes with being a man...

When you run so fast to get somewhere,you miss the fun of getting there... Life is not a race,so take it slowly....
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