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Atlas African Industries ltd HY16
VituVingiSana
#41 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 7:12:20 PM
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sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
These guys are worse than all Kenyan NSE conmen combined. Sad Sad Sad d'oh!

This how it is in the hedgefund world! Wanjikus getting taught a thorough lesson... Pray


Absolute thuggery. A good lesson for Wanjiku never to invest in a company whose product she can't see, can't touch.

Safaricom? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Just Kidding but one can't see/touch airtime or even "M-Pesa" or data! It's about the management.
In a WEAK defense of ADSS, the original business of supplying "oil explorers" crashed and burned as oil prices tumbled from $120 to $30-50. Then the Ethiopians screwed them over. Some things are hard to predict.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Fyatu
#42 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:42:03 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
These guys are worse than all Kenyan NSE conmen combined. Sad Sad Sad d'oh!

This how it is in the hedgefund world! Wanjikus getting taught a thorough lesson... Pray


Absolute thuggery. A good lesson for Wanjiku never to invest in a company whose product she can't see, can't touch.

Safaricom? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Just Kidding but one can't see/touch airtime or even "M-Pesa" or data! It's about the management.
In a WEAK defense of ADSS, the original business of supplying "oil explorers" crashed and burned as oil prices tumbled from $120 to $30-50. Then the Ethiopians screwed them over. Some things are hard to predict.


What can one do to purchase this share ama it has gone the hutchings beamer or Marshalls EA way?
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
VituVingiSana
#43 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:39:59 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
These guys are worse than all Kenyan NSE conmen combined. Sad Sad Sad d'oh!

This how it is in the hedgefund world! Wanjikus getting taught a thorough lesson... Pray


Absolute thuggery. A good lesson for Wanjiku never to invest in a company whose product she can't see, can't touch.

Safaricom? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Just Kidding but one can't see/touch airtime or even "M-Pesa" or data! It's about the management.
In a WEAK defense of ADSS, the original business of supplying "oil explorers" crashed and burned as oil prices tumbled from $120 to $30-50. Then the Ethiopians screwed them over. Some things are hard to predict.


What can one do to purchase this share ama it has gone the hutchings beamer or Marshalls EA way?

Why would you want to buy these shares? If you do want to buy some then read the IM they will/should issue for the new issue of shares BEFORE you buy them.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
lochaz-index
#44 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:06:46 PM
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Is there some kind of market buckstop/automatic buy/prop for stocks whose prices are approaching sub 1bob? I simply find it odd that homeafrica crashed from KES 25 only to find consistent support at 1 shilling. Same to Mumias, ADSS, Marshall, Eveready, Olympia etc.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
hisah
#45 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:14:30 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Is there some kind of market buckstop/automatic buy/prop for stocks whose prices are approaching sub 1bob? I simply find it odd that homeafrica crashed from KES 25 only to find consistent support at 1 shilling. Same to Mumias, ADSS, Marshall, Eveready, Olympia etc.

I have also noted this silent behaviour. Was ATS programmed not to permit sub KES 1.00 orders? Think
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Fyatu
#46 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:21:44 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
These guys are worse than all Kenyan NSE conmen combined. Sad Sad Sad d'oh!

This how it is in the hedgefund world! Wanjikus getting taught a thorough lesson... Pray


Absolute thuggery. A good lesson for Wanjiku never to invest in a company whose product she can't see, can't touch.

Safaricom? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Just Kidding but one can't see/touch airtime or even "M-Pesa" or data! It's about the management.
In a WEAK defense of ADSS, the original business of supplying "oil explorers" crashed and burned as oil prices tumbled from $120 to $30-50. Then the Ethiopians screwed them over. Some things are hard to predict.


What can one do to purchase this share ama it has gone the hutchings beamer or Marshalls EA way?

Why would you want to buy these shares? If you do want to buy some then read the IM they will/should issue for the new issue of shares BEFORE you buy them.


For purely speculative purposes but it seems you can only purchase the new share offered if you are already a shareholder(pre-emption rights). My speculation is motivated by Paul Ndungu's moves in early 2000's that made him a billionaire
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
VituVingiSana
#47 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:58:47 PM
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hisah wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Is there some kind of market buckstop/automatic buy/prop for stocks whose prices are approaching sub 1bob? I simply find it odd that homeafrica crashed from KES 25 only to find consistent support at 1 shilling. Same to Mumias, ADSS, Marshall, Eveready, Olympia etc.

I have also noted this silent behaviour. Was ATS programmed not to permit sub KES 1.00 orders? Think
Or folks come in at 1/- as buyers? Pure speculation
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#48 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 2:24:25 PM
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Folks down here are making a killing from casinos...sports betting & online casinos have not really taken off...if they invest in physical gaming slots not necessarily casinos they will make a killing...Us Southerners love gambling...in almost every bar there is a gambling machine...people will be drinking and gambling at the same time...it's a way of life...I have seen it across Southern Africa...Another good thing is Southern Africa is less hostile compared to East Africa unless they start in Angola...also income levels are the highest in Africa...I think this company is better viewed as a start up...you know how start ups are...they can fold anytime!
sparkly
#49 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:32:00 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Is there some kind of market buckstop/automatic buy/prop for stocks whose prices are approaching sub 1bob? I simply find it odd that homeafrica crashed from KES 25 only to find consistent support at 1 shilling. Same to Mumias, ADSS, Marshall, Eveready, Olympia etc.

I have also noted this silent behaviour. Was ATS programmed not to permit sub KES 1.00 orders? Think
Or folks come in at 1/- as buyers? Pure speculation


Law of absolutes... 1 is the beginning, the Alpha.

Below 1 there is nothing. After 1 there is 2.
Life is short. Live passionately.
maka
#50 Posted : Monday, December 26, 2016 2:34:01 PM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
hisah wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Is there some kind of market buckstop/automatic buy/prop for stocks whose prices are approaching sub 1bob? I simply find it odd that homeafrica crashed from KES 25 only to find consistent support at 1 shilling. Same to Mumias, ADSS, Marshall, Eveready, Olympia etc.

I have also noted this silent behaviour. Was ATS programmed not to permit sub KES 1.00 orders? Think
Or folks come in at 1/- as buyers? Pure speculation


Law of absolutes... 1 is the beginning, the Alpha.

Below 1 there is nothing. After 1 there is 2.



possunt quia posse videntur
Fyatu
#51 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:26:33 AM
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I have been scrapping business daily and other sources to see find out what resolutions were passed yesterday in the gangster island of Guernsey...any news?? @pesanane where you at?
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Pesa Nane
#52 Posted : Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:26:36 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
I have been scrapping business daily and other sources to see find out what resolutions were passed yesterday in the gangster island of Guernsey...any news?? @pesanane where you at?


The General Meeting is today 19 January 2017 at Richmond House, St Julian’s Avenue, St Peter Port, Guernsey GY1 1GZ.

Meanwhile....


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Fyatu
#53 Posted : Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:16:35 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
I have been scrapping business daily and other sources to see find out what resolutions were passed yesterday in the gangster island of Guernsey...any news?? @pesanane where you at?


The General Meeting is today 19 January 2017 at Richmond House, St Julian’s Avenue, St Peter Port, Guernsey GY1 1GZ.

Meanwhile....





Much appreciated
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Pesa Nane
#54 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 9:37:20 PM
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@Fyatu here you go....

Quote:
New Gaming Project, Fundraising and Notice of General Meeting

15 December 2016

To the holders of ordinary shares

Dear Shareholder
1. Corporate Strategy
As discussed in recent communications, the Company’s long term strategy is to gain exposure to businesses operating in the African consumer sector, with a commitment to focusing on operational and scalable businesses, which have been significantly de‐risked (where possible) and which are already generating revenue or offer near term revenue streams. Although this is a considerable departure from the original operational focus we set out with in 2012, our underlying goal of identifying and gaining exposure to prospective growth opportunities across Africa remains unchanged. With rising incomes leading to the emergence of a growing and significant consumer market across the African continent, the Board feels that the significant growth opportunities within the African consumer market are particularly attractive from an investment perspective.

2. Gaming Sector Exposure
As shareholders are aware, in August 2016 we made an initial investment into BonanzaWin, a Nigerian based gaming business.
The Board believe that this investment provides Atlas with exposure to Nigeria’s large consumer sector and specifically the fast‐growing gaming and entertainment market and followed it was a further investment in September 2016 to support BonanzaWin’s continued roll‐out of new sites.
Following on from this initial participation in the African gaming market, we are pleased to announce that the Company has now entered into a memorandum of understanding (the “MOU”) with Willem Jacobus Bodenstein, a senior executive and slot machine & sports betting specialist (“Physical Gaming”) with extensive experience of operating in Southern Africa to further build our gaming profile.
Pursuant to the MOU, Mr Bodenstein will join the Atlas senior management team to spearhead the establishment of Physical Gaming operations in a number of African jurisdictions with a view developing a top‐tier pan‐African Physical Gaming business.
We are separately in discussions with potential partners who may offer access to top‐tier on‐line gaming infrastructure for integration with alongside these slot machines and sports betting operations and the retail estate being developed by BonanzaWin in Nigeria.
Mr Bodenstein has been identified by the Company as the best candidate for this collaboration by virtue of his incomparable experience and expertise in the sector. As the former CEO of Vukani Gaming Group (a subsidiary of South African‐listed Niveus Investments Limited, “Niveus”) Mr Bodenstein oversaw the business’ expansion across a number of southern African
jurisdictions, which expansion saw the market capitalisation of Niveus grow to US$350 million (having listed at a price of ZAR 7 per share, the stock now trades around ZAR 40 per share).



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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#55 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 9:46:44 PM
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3. Terms of the MOU
The principal terms of the MOU are as follows:

a) Mr Bodenstein will take the role of “COO” of Atlas, and subject to certain conditions being satisfied will be appointed to the board of Atlas.
b) As “COO”, Mr Bodenstein will devote the required time:
● to negotiate and arrange for Atlas to acquire (whether through purchase or new grant) all necessary licences, consents, authorisations and/or similar or equivalent permissions required to enable Atlas (directly or through a subsidiary company) to conduct Physical Gaming in accordance with applicable laws, rules and regulations in each of Zambia, Lesotho, Swaziland and Uganda (the “Phase 1 Licence Acquisitions”);
● to negotiate and arrange for Atlas to acquire (whether through purchase or new grant) all necessary licences, consents, authorisations and/or similar or equivalent permissions required to enable Atlas (directly or through a subsidiary company) to conduct Physical Gaming in accordance with applicable laws, rules and regulations in Ghana (or another jurisdiction to be agreed with Atlas, in due course, the “Phase 2 Licence Acquisition”); and
● following the Phase 1 Licence Acquisitions and/or Phase 2 Licence Acquisition, to manage all operational aspects of the Physical Gaming business.

c) Atlas will:
● allocate an agreed budget for the process of the Phase 1 Licence Acquisitions and will however retain control over the funds; Atlas will only make any such payments once it has satisfied all relevant and applicable KYC/CDD checks on the proposed beneficiary of the payment and otherwise satisfied itself as regards due diligence investigations into the
proposed beneficiary and generally as regards the Phase 1 Licence Acquisitions in question; and
● will undertake to arrange for funding of the roll‐out of the Physical Gaming division (i.e. primarily financing of the purchase, delivery, installation and back office functionality of the physical slot machines) and provide working capital, in accordance with an agreed “roll‐out budget”.

d) Subject to Atlas having obtained a waiver of Rule 9 of the Takeover Code and its shareholders having passed the requisite whitewash resolution (and any other consents, approvals, authorities which may be required so as to ensure that WB is not required to make a mandatory cash offer to acquire the remaining shares in Atlas, under Rule 9 of the Takeover Code (or
any similar/equivalent provision) having been obtained), in consideration for achieving the agreed targets, Mr Bodenstein will receive new shares in the capital of Atlas as follows (the “Consideration Shares”):
US$1m worth of new shares in the capital of Atlas, at a valuation of 0.1p per Atlas share and a US$:GB£ exchange rate of 1.267:1 upon completion of the Phase 1 Licence Acquisitions to the satisfaction of Atlas, being 789,265,983 new Atlas shares;
● US$1m worth of new shares in the capital of Atlas, at a valuation of 0.1p per Atlas share and a US$:GB£ exchange rate of 1.267:1 upon completion of the Phase 2 Licence Acquisition to the satisfaction of Atlas, being 789,265,983 new Atlas shares; and
● US$1m worth of new shares in the capital of Atlas, at a valuation of 0.1p per Atlas share and a US$:GB£ exchange rate of 1.267:1 following establishment of the Physical Gaming and as soon as practicable following the 3rd consecutive month in which the Physical Gaming division has more than 100 slot machines deployed, installed and operating across
Zambia, Lesotho & Swaziland, being 789,265,983 new Atlas shares.

Acknowledging the fact that the Company’s ability to issue the Consideration Shares is strictly subject to the conditions set out above, the Company will take all necessary steps towards achieving satisfaction of such conditions without delay as soon as practicable following the General Meeting referred to below. In this regard it is currently expected that a further
general meeting will be held in Q1 2017 to obtain the requisite approvals.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Angelica _ann
#56 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 9:48:31 PM
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Poleni sana Sad Sad Sad
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Pesa Nane
#57 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 9:50:09 PM
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RESULTS OF THE GENERAL MEETING

Quote:
Atlas African Industries Limited / Ticker: AAI / Index: NSE / Sector: Support Services

20 January 2017

Atlas African Industries Limited (‘Atlas’ or the ‘Company’)

Result of General Meeting


Atlas African Industries Limited (NSE: ADSS), is pleased to announce that all resolutions were duly passed (see above) at the Company's General Meeting held yesterday.
Carl Esprey, Chief Executive Officer of Atlas, said: “We are delighted to receive the continued support of our valued shareholders as we look to transition our business towards the African gaming sector. We will continue to keep investors appraised of progress and hope to have further updates in the coming weeks.”

** ENDS **

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
murchr
#58 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 9:53:02 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
I have been scrapping business daily and other sources to see find out what resolutions were passed yesterday in the gangster island of Guernsey...any news?? @pesanane where you at?


The General Meeting is today 19 January 2017 at Richmond House, St Julian’s Avenue, St Peter Port, Guernsey GY1 1GZ.

Meanwhile....




Very good company Laughing out loudly
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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muandiwambeu
#59 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 4:01:37 AM
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murchr wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
I have been scrapping business daily and other sources to see find out what resolutions were passed yesterday in the gangster island of Guernsey...any news?? @pesanane where you at?


The General Meeting is today 19 January 2017 at Richmond House, St Julian’s Avenue, St Peter Port, Guernsey GY1 1GZ.

Meanwhile....




Very good company Laughing out loudly

I hope @fullykenyan you were fast enough to dine with your angels at adss.
@fyatu and et el, we feel for you.
Lessons ni mingi, bandia firm is a bandia firm, if you can not fight it out for yourself, better run and never look back at the slightest indication of ubandianess. Otherwise ngojea ngojea haukunyuangi maji maenga in this sector of corporate actioning. You only end up sucking more poo.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
VituVingiSana
#60 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 2:24:48 PM
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So true @muandiwambeu one of my best decisions was to dispose of KQ when it looked really bad. Bandit & bandia firms!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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