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KCPE 2015 results
hardwood
#21 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:07:21 AM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
I liked ole kiyapi take on the education sector on ntv yesterday, he even mentioned that they had already carried out a review on the system and the research paper (or whatever they are called) had already been completed, but I hear the president wants to start another review, just a chance for more wastage, some commission and tenders to be floated.

How on earth can normal people compare a kid sitting an exam at some academy in nairobi to another kid studying under a tree in some rural area.


As long as the syllabus is the same and is fully covered, and the teachers are equally trained and competent, then performance shouldn't vary. For many years in the past, rural schools used to outperform city schools.
Intelligentsia
#22 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:08:37 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Was shocked this holiday to meet a class 7 kid. Who cant read a preschool basic English sound book. In our time we would be talking of a murder case, murderer being the English teacher.


don't be surprised, KNUT busy fighting for higher salos when teacher absenteeism is said to be as high as 70% in some places.
newfarer
#23 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:05:33 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
I liked ole kiyapi take on the education sector on ntv yesterday, he even mentioned that they had already carried out a review on the system and the research paper (or whatever they are called) had already been completed, but I hear the president wants to start another review, just a chance for more wastage, some commission and tenders to be floated.

How on earth can normal people compare a kid sitting an exam at some academy in nairobi to another kid studying under a tree in some rural area.


You better start accepting that this jubilee government will take us too far, in circles that is.
punda amecheka
newfarer
#24 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:08:46 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Was shocked this holiday to meet a class 7 kid. Who cant read a preschool basic English sound book. In our time we would be talking of a murder case, murderer being the English teacher.


don't be surprised, KNUT busy fighting for higher salos when teacher absenteeism is said to be as high as 70% in some places.

Absenteeism, low morale, teachers making ends meet in other ventures after being shortchanged and intimidated by government. The government thought it was winning lakini the children are the losers

Teachers ought to be paid what they've fought for then we demand results.
punda amecheka
streetwise
#25 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:11:37 PM
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I don't understand this business of public vs private, rich vs poor.

Soon we will be saying lets ration power and water to private hospitals so that they come to same level as public hospitals or something mad like that. Or lets have a uniform check list for diagnosis etc

Those are not the root cause of the problem , the root cause is the failure of the Government with the catalyst being corruption.

It does not matter how much you review the syllabus. You need to fix the root cause.

If there is a Wazuan in Government please communicate this to the right people who need to take action
sitaki.kujulikana
#26 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:39:18 PM
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newfarer wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
I liked ole kiyapi take on the education sector on ntv yesterday, he even mentioned that they had already carried out a review on the system and the research paper (or whatever they are called) had already been completed, but I hear the president wants to start another review, just a chance for more wastage, some commission and tenders to be floated.

How on earth can normal people compare a kid sitting an exam at some academy in nairobi to another kid studying under a tree in some rural area.


You better start accepting that this jubilee government will take us too far, in circles that is.

The new education review set to be launched next month is just mchezo, I think there exists enough data on this and what is needed is action.

The push should be on universal secondary education, increasing teachers, increasing the schools and equally equipping the public schools.

The best solution would be for every primary school to have a secondary section, in this day and age secondary education and socialization of teenagers is what is considered basic.
sitaki.kujulikana
#27 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:43:37 PM
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hardwood wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
I liked ole kiyapi take on the education sector on ntv yesterday, he even mentioned that they had already carried out a review on the system and the research paper (or whatever they are called) had already been completed, but I hear the president wants to start another review, just a chance for more wastage, some commission and tenders to be floated.

How on earth can normal people compare a kid sitting an exam at some academy in nairobi to another kid studying under a tree in some rural area.


As long as the syllabus is the same and is fully covered, and the teachers are equally trained and competent, then performance shouldn't vary. For many years in the past, rural schools used to outperform city schools.

performance will always be hinged on the resources available to the kids, definitely a kid in a household with a househelp, piped water, electricity, internet and parents who can afford text books and revision books will fair better than a kid from a household where they have to work in the shamba, do other household chores, whose parent can not afford text books e.t.c

Even when the teachers are similar, the resources play a major factor, a kid who walks for several kilometers to school vs one who has access to a school bus makes some difference.

but we cant change that since we are born into different backgrounds, but we can try and provide opportunities even to the kids born in poor backgrounds, otherwise some of us would not even be here.
sitaki.kujulikana
#28 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:55:42 PM
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streetwise wrote:
I don't understand this business of public vs private, rich vs poor.

Soon we will be saying lets ration power and water to private hospitals so that they come to same level as public hospitals or something mad like that. Or lets have a uniform check list for diagnosis etc

Those are not the root cause of the problem , the root cause is the failure of the Government with the catalyst being corruption.

It does not matter how much you review the syllabus. You need to fix the root cause.

If there is a Wazuan in Government please communicate this to the right people who need to take action

its very easy to understand, its all about public resource allocation.

Using the current structure the best would be to do away with public funded schools which get preferential treatment when it comes to resource allocation, thats what causes all the fighting, i.e getting into the top end public high schools.

using your private hospital analogy, what would be your take be, if say agha khan or nairobi hospital massive resources were being funded by the taxpayer but access to the same was only restricted to a few, there would be fighting for access to the same also.
kysse
#29 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 4:34:43 PM
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I purposed not to get overly excited by KNEC results.The strikes and leakages dampened our expectations.
A parent was heard praising the smartphone for her child's 400+ KCPE success.
I now wish to congratulate the disadvantaged kids who gave it their all but managed to score low without any form of assistance from teachers/parents.
Reading stories of kids on the verge of commiting suicide due to perceived failure by the community at large makes me sick.
ION where did the giants go? Little known private schools are beating them at their game.

Well, it's time to tackle the elephant in the room-School Allocations.I guess it's going to turn out the same way as last year so just find a school and pray that your child succeeds in life.




masukuma
#30 Posted : Thursday, December 31, 2015 4:42:35 PM
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