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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,568 Location: nairobi
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mulla wrote:For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking?? IFC 143 million shares and KLM 348 million shares
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 906 Location: sky
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mulla wrote:For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking?? @mulla i just asked myself the same and what came in my mind when i heard that was dj,what he tweeted during results announcement and the adverts, i will be keen on this one going foward was it two major shareholders or two individuals? There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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littledove wrote:mulla wrote:For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking?? @mulla i just asked myself the same and what came in my mind when i heard that was dj,what he tweeted during results announcement and the adverts, i will be keen on this one going foward was it two major shareholders or two individuals? Two individuals... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi
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One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad. It's much better to put you money in a firm that grows WITHOUT bailouts (or access to bailouts) vs one that can be lax thanks to (potential) bailouts. The bailouts don't help shareholders because the cash goes to pay off [politically connected or voters] debts. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad. It's much better to put you money in a firm that grows WITHOUT bailouts (or access to bailouts) vs one that can be lax thanks to (potential) bailouts. The bailouts don't help shareholders because the cash goes to pay off [politically connected or voters] debts. you don't stay for long but you take the advantage of panic sells short term and exit "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mlennyma wrote:One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad. It's much better to put you money in a firm that grows WITHOUT bailouts (or access to bailouts) vs one that can be lax thanks to (potential) bailouts. The bailouts don't help shareholders because the cash goes to pay off [politically connected or voters] debts. you don't stay for long but you take the advantage of panic sells short term and exit I am not a trader. So your view/focus is different from mine. I wish you luck. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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mulla wrote:For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking?? One of them is @Malkiat Singh and by some extension is @Chuck Norris. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:littledove wrote:mulla wrote:For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking?? @mulla i just asked myself the same and what came in my mind when i heard that was dj,what he tweeted during results announcement and the adverts, i will be keen on this one going foward was it two major shareholders or two individuals? Two individuals... Once they bought the first few bunches they cease being individuals but shareholders.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 280
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Budalangi BODA BODA sacco made more money than KQ last fin yr.... Abridged financial report. DOH
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Bachuma Gate wrote:Budalangi BODA BODA sacco made more money than KQ last fin yr.... Abridged financial report. I am now richer than KQ. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Bachuma Gate wrote:Budalangi BODA BODA sacco made more money than KQ last fin yr.... Abridged financial report. I am now richer than KQ. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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Stone cold silence from aly "rich" on KQ. To say he has been bullish on the share is to give bullish a bad name. Is he a relation of Obiero? Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,568 Location: nairobi
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Mainat wrote:Stone cold silence from aly "rich" on KQ. To say he has been bullish on the share is to give bullish a bad name. Is he a relation of Obiero? We are good friends but my ideas on KQ are independent. I still believe in the company as a whole and once the dust settles we shall be in the money, for now let me lick my wounds in peace :)
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi
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Mainat wrote:Stone cold silence from aly "rich" on KQ. To say he has been bullish on the share is to give bullish a bad name. Is he a relation of Obiero? While shareholders suffer, Mr. Rich Satchu gets money from ads. And probably free tickets as part of KQ's marketing budget. I wonder if @obiero gets those perks too? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,568 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Mainat wrote:Stone cold silence from aly "rich" on KQ. To say he has been bullish on the share is to give bullish a bad name. Is he a relation of Obiero? While shareholders suffer, Mr. Rich Satchu gets money from ads. And probably free tickets as part of KQ's marketing budget. I wonder if @obiero gets those perks too?
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 539 Location: Nakuru
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obiero wrote:Mainat wrote:Stone cold silence from aly "rich" on KQ. To say he has been bullish on the share is to give bullish a bad name. Is he a relation of Obiero? We are good friends but my ideas on KQ are independent. I still believe in the company as a whole and once the dust settles we shall be in the money, for now let me lick my wounds in peace :) Eish, @Obiero... 80,200 KQ!! everytime I see my reds, I relax on seeing your KQ, then I derive comfort in numbers  For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,568 Location: nairobi
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winmak wrote:obiero wrote:Mainat wrote:Stone cold silence from aly "rich" on KQ. To say he has been bullish on the share is to give bullish a bad name. Is he a relation of Obiero? We are good friends but my ideas on KQ are independent. I still believe in the company as a whole and once the dust settles we shall be in the money, for now let me lick my wounds in peace :) Eish, @Obiero... 80,200 KQ!! everytime I see my reds, I relax on seeing your KQ, then I derive comfort in numbers The gentleman Prakash Kantilal who filed a suit against KQ aiming to stop the rights issue has 154,100 shares while Paul Wanderi Ndungu has 52.5million shares..
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:winmak wrote:obiero wrote:Mainat wrote:Stone cold silence from aly "rich" on KQ. To say he has been bullish on the share is to give bullish a bad name. Is he a relation of Obiero? We are good friends but my ideas on KQ are independent. I still believe in the company as a whole and once the dust settles we shall be in the money, for now let me lick my wounds in peace :) Eish, @Obiero... 80,200 KQ!! everytime I see my reds, I relax on seeing your KQ, then I derive comfort in numbers The gentleman Prakash Kantilal who filed a suit against KQ aiming to stop the rights issue has 154,100 shares while Paul Wanderi Ndungu has 52.5million shares.. Is PWN still a large shareholder in KQ? The shareholder lists don't have him as a shareholder unless he owns them through nominees. A pity PK didn't win, it would have saved KQ shareholders 45bn since 2012. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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