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also noted that the VAT payable has also gone up significantly, under the old regime VAT for a seven year old mazda demio was 55,302 in the new regime this has shot up to 78,085 because of this 200k excise duty malarkey 'One headache for famous medieval holy people was that someone might murder you to acquire your body parts for the relics trade'
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jimmy1 wrote:Swenani wrote:If a car is expensive(CRSP of Kshs 6M+),then the duty has dropped. Correct. I have confirmed this What have you confirmed? Kindly clarify. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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jerry wrote:jimmy1 wrote:Swenani wrote:If a car is expensive(CRSP of Kshs 6M+),then the duty has dropped. Correct. I have confirmed this What have you confirmed? Kindly clarify. Someone cleared a Land Rover range Rover Sport HSE, 2720cc, Year 2008 (CRSP value 9671111). Duty was 897k instead of 1.051M
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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jimmy1 wrote:jerry wrote:jimmy1 wrote:Swenani wrote:If a car is expensive(CRSP of Kshs 6M+),then the duty has dropped. Correct. I have confirmed this What have you confirmed? Kindly clarify. Someone cleared a Land Rover range Rover Sport HSE, 2720cc, Year 2008 (CRSP value 9671111). Duty was 897k instead of 1.051M Thanks @jimmy1. However, we need to confirm that the reduction in duty is not due to factors other than "capping of excise duty" at 150k/200k (regardless of durable value). The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/11/2011 Posts: 240 Location: jamuhuri ya kenya
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jerry wrote:Thanks @jimmy1. However, we need to confirm that the reduction in duty is not due to factors other than "capping of excise duty" at 150k/200k (regardless of durable value). Which factors do you have in mind?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you
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enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you "The excise taxes are set to rise each year at a rate matching inflation and it remains to be seen what impact that will have on demand for vehicles in the coming years." The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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jerry wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you "The excise taxes are set to rise each year at a rate matching inflation and it remains to be seen what impact that will have on demand for vehicles in the coming years." What makes me annoyed is that they have increased the rate for common Mwananchi and not only have they made it same rate for high end cars that are fuel inefficient and environmentally unfriendly ,they have reduced the price. Feels like telling people you have to be rich or else punished for not. Someone's not reasoning somewhere
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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jerry wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you "The excise taxes are set to rise each year at a rate matching inflation and it remains to be seen what impact that will have on demand for vehicles in the coming years." What makes me annoyed is that they have increased the rate for common Mwananchi and not only have they made it same rate for high end cars that are fuel inefficient and environmentally unfriendly ,they have reduced the price. Feels like telling people you have to be rich or else punished for not. Someone's not reasoning somewhere.sounds selfish
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enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money,import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. To Each His Own
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kayhara wrote:Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. Duty serves two purposes 1. Discourage imports-excise duty 2. A means of government to recover tax which GM, DT dobie etc would have paid if you had bought the car locally-VAT. 3. For fairness and equity- It is expected/assumed that a person who buys a 7 yr old car wont use it for long unlike a person who buys 2 yr old car thus why there are differences in depreciation If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:kayhara wrote:Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. Duty serves two purposes 1. Discourage imports-excise duty 2. A means of government to recover tax which GM, DT dobie etc would have paid if you had bought the car locally-VAT. 3. For fairness and equity- It is expected/assumed that a person who buys a 7 yr old car wont use it for long unlike a person who buys 2 yr old car thus why there are differences in depreciation What you guys are missing is why is 2009 vits has more expensive excise than 2009 Mercedes Benz .someone explain that
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enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:kayhara wrote:Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. Duty serves two purposes 1. Discourage imports-excise duty 2. A means of government to recover tax which GM, DT dobie etc would have paid if you had bought the car locally-VAT. 3. For fairness and equity- It is expected/assumed that a person who buys a 7 yr old car wont use it for long unlike a person who buys 2 yr old car thus why there are differences in depreciation What you guys are missing is why is 2009 vits has more expensive excise than 2009 Mercedes Benz .someone explain that Never ever, what model of Merc is it? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:kayhara wrote:Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. Duty serves two purposes 1. Discourage imports-excise duty 2. A means of government to recover tax which GM, DT dobie etc would have paid if you had bought the car locally-VAT. 3. For fairness and equity- It is expected/assumed that a person who buys a 7 yr old car wont use it for long unlike a person who buys 2 yr old car thus why there are differences in depreciation What you guys are missing is why is 2009 vits has more expensive excise than 2009 Mercedes Benz .someone explain that Never ever, what model of Merc is it? Swenani read my red highlights on the very top of this current thread. Popular cars duty went up by ksh xxx,xxx,xxx respectively. Luxury cars like Mercedes had their duty go down by upto a million.why is someone punished to import popular car by paying 200k while luxury cars have a huge tax break? ??
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enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:kayhara wrote:Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. Duty serves two purposes 1. Discourage imports-excise duty 2. A means of government to recover tax which GM, DT dobie etc would have paid if you had bought the car locally-VAT. 3. For fairness and equity- It is expected/assumed that a person who buys a 7 yr old car wont use it for long unlike a person who buys 2 yr old car thus why there are differences in depreciation What you guys are missing is why is 2009 vits has more expensive excise than 2009 Mercedes Benz .someone explain that Never ever, what model of Merc is it? Swenani read my red highlights on the very top of this current thread. Popular cars duty went up by ksh xxx,xxx,xxx respectively. Luxury cars like Mercedes had their duty go down by upto a million.why is someone punished to import popular car by paying 200k while luxury cars have a huge tax break? ?? ooh,pole, That's the purpose of midro crass in any economy, to cushion the rich and support the poor-You should be happy! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:kayhara wrote:Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. Duty serves two purposes 1. Discourage imports-excise duty 2. A means of government to recover tax which GM, DT dobie etc would have paid if you had bought the car locally-VAT. 3. For fairness and equity- It is expected/assumed that a person who buys a 7 yr old car wont use it for long unlike a person who buys 2 yr old car thus why there are differences in depreciation What you guys are missing is why is 2009 vits has more expensive excise than 2009 Mercedes Benz .someone explain that Never ever, what model of Merc is it? Swenani read my red highlights on the very top of this current thread. Popular cars duty went up by ksh xxx,xxx,xxx respectively. Luxury cars like Mercedes had their duty go down by upto a million.why is someone punished to import popular car by paying 200k while luxury cars have a huge tax break? ?? ooh,pole, That's the purpose of midro crass in any economy, to cushion the rich and support the poor-You should be happy! That's the point. Sounds selfish man. Let also wanjiku own probox and get a million tax break
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Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:kayhara wrote:Swenani wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote: Duty on the popular. models, Toyota Belta (1290cc), Toyota Premio (1490cc) and Honda Fit (1290cc) was up by Sh98,001, Sh124,000 and Sh145,291 respectively. Luxury cars like Range Rovers and Mercedes Benz, which account for a small share of all vehicle imports, however saw their excise taxes drop by up to Sh1 million.linkAnd we say the govt wants common Mwananchi to prosper, that's kenya for you Prosper by importing second hand cars which pollutes enevironment? Excise duty is meant to discourage consumption of harmful goods/services that's why it's called sin tax. Common mwananchi is not worried about owning a car but having accommodation, food and cothing The common mwananchi travels in an overloaded probox, his food is ferried in tinted vitz, and his mutumba bales are shared between boda boda and the cheap advans. The common mwananchi uses boda boda thus why excise duty was scrapped on motorcycles and bicyles. Vitz, advans and probox are for the middle class Second hand cars pollutes environment, if you want to save money, import a car which is less than 3 years old and save 50K+ and use it for long unless wewe ni mtu unapenda kudrive number plate actually this does not help, a 7 year old car depreciates by 60-70% a 3 year by less, the difference in price after the 200k and the 150k duty still leaves the older car cheaper by far than the newer car, so the duty is no incentive to buy a newer car, they would have done away with duty for cars less than 3 years, that would have helped. Duty serves two purposes 1. Discourage imports-excise duty 2. A means of government to recover tax which GM, DT dobie etc would have paid if you had bought the car locally-VAT. 3. For fairness and equity- It is expected/assumed that a person who buys a 7 yr old car wont use it for long unlike a person who buys 2 yr old car thus why there are differences in depreciation What you guys are missing is why is 2009 vits has more expensive excise than 2009 Mercedes Benz .someone explain that Never ever, what model of Merc is it? Swenani read my red highlights on the very top of this current thread. Popular cars duty went up by ksh xxx,xxx,xxx respectively. Luxury cars like Mercedes had their duty go down by upto a million.why is someone punished to import popular car by paying 200k while luxury cars have a huge tax break? ?? ooh,pole, That's the purpose of midro crass in any economy, to cushion the rich and support the poor-You should be happy!  shida midro crass wa kenya ni wachache sana, and the worst thing is that they do not want the poor to get in, we the midro crass want to remain gated
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