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Contradiction Premises
tycho
#21 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:05:02 AM
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op·po·site /ˈäpəzət/
adjective
1. having a position on the other or further
side of something; facing something,
especially something of the same type.
2. diametrically different; of a contrary kind.
noun
a person or thing that is totally different from
or the reverse of someone or something else.
adverb
in a position facing a specified or implied
subject.
preposition
1. in a position on the other side of a
specific area from; facing.
2. (of a leading actor) in a complementary
role to (another performer).

con·tra·dic·tion /ˌkäntrəˈdikSH(ə)n/
noun
a combination of statements, ideas, or
features of a situation that are opposed to
one another.

So, how and when does 'opposite' differ from 'contradictory'?
tycho
#22 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:07:47 AM
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Finally @AlphDoti, and anyone, show me Esau's sin, that made God to prefer Jacob over him, and when it was committed.
sparkly
#23 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:29:38 AM
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tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Of course. (If there's such an entity with such power).

@tycho I thought with your broad knowledge,I thought you have studied "The law of non-contradiction" Laughing out loudly

The definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.

Isn't it amazing that this all powerful 'God' is limited to Boolean logic?

Your sentiments @AlphDoti, are probably an indicator of how humans create God and hide the fact from themselves. Someone called it 'the mystification of experience'.

It is true some people have "created" gods, and that is why you end up with things which are contradictory. That's why a said up there in my post "If you know of a god who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God."


Hahaha!

So the God who created 'matter' isn't the one who created 'anti-matter'? Or is it me who's seeing contradiction everywhere?


Back to the stone.

We know that man can create something that he cannot carry eg a 5 tonne lorry. We know that God is greater than man. So logically God can create something that he cannot carry, otherwise he would be inferior to man.
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Wakanyugi
#24 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 9:54:54 AM
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KIKItheKING wrote:
God can do ANYTHING.. Can He make a stone too heavy for Him to lift?

[Max Shulman - The many loves of Dobie Gillis _ 1951]


There is a fundamental flaw in this question.

The implied idea that there is a god 'out there' separate from human beings, rocks, trucks, tychos and alphadotis.

There isn't.

There is no 'out there' either.

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#25 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 10:05:40 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
KIKItheKING wrote:
God can do ANYTHING.. Can He make a stone too heavy for Him to lift?

[Max Shulman - The many loves of Dobie Gillis _ 1951]


There is a fundamental flaw in this question.

The implied idea that there is a god 'out there' separate from human beings, rocks, trucks, tychos and alphadotis.

There isn't.

There is no 'out there' either.



Wakanyugi, how have you inferred this 'out there' implication?
symbols
#26 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 1:31:37 PM
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KIKItheKING wrote:
God can do ANYTHING.. Can He make a stone too heavy for Him to lift?

[Max Shulman - The many loves of Dobie Gillis _ 1951]


Yes and no and yes or no.
Ngong
#27 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:45:09 PM
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tycho wrote:
Finally @AlphDoti, and anyone, show me Esau's sin, that made God to prefer Jacob over him, and when it was committed.


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One offered the best from his flock while the other some fruits and vegetables
AlphDoti
#28 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:46:21 PM
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tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
KIKItheKING wrote:
God can do ANYTHING.. Can He make a stone too heavy for Him to lift?

[Max Shulman - The many loves of Dobie Gillis _ 1951]

There is a fundamental flaw in this question.

The implied idea that there is a god 'out there' separate from human beings, rocks, trucks, tychos and alphadotis.

There isn't.

There is no 'out there' either.

Wakanyugi, how have you inferred this 'out there' implication?

It is like asking the question: my friend John, he was admitted to hospital, he gave birth to a child, was it a girl or a boy? Can you guess? The thing is that, my friend John was a man, how can he give birth to a child? If he cannot give birth to a child, where is the question of baby being a boy or a girl?

So @tycho, similarly as I told you earlier, the definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a God who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.
KIKItheKING
#29 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:04:40 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
KIKItheKING wrote:
God can do ANYTHING.. Can He make a stone too heavy for Him to lift?

[Max Shulman - The many loves of Dobie Gillis _ 1951]

There is a fundamental flaw in this question.

The implied idea that there is a god 'out there' separate from human beings, rocks, trucks, tychos and alphadotis.

There isn't.

There is no 'out there' either.

Wakanyugi, how have you inferred this 'out there' implication?

It is like asking the question: my friend John, he was admitted to hospital, he gave birth to a child, was it a girl or a boy? Can you guess? The thing is that, my friend John was a man, how can he give birth to a child? If he cannot give birth to a child, where is the question of baby being a boy or a girl?

So @tycho, similarly as I told you earlier, the definition of God (true God) is not God of contradiction. If you know of a God who is a creator and he creates contradictory things, then he is not God.

Applause
FEAR GOD
KIKItheKING
#30 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 7:14:19 PM
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God is not a contradictory God. HE is the Supreme being. Hence logic can never be applied to HIM. But if its the accient gods, then the question is contradictory.
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