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Stockbrokers to stop trading at NSE for a month
The optimist
#41 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:56:00 PM
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Reuters thinks its a Threat!
Hope Reuters is right and hope to see trading tomorrow http://af.reuters.com/ar...ws/idAFKBN0LN1I220150219
mlennyma
#42 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:56:19 PM
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Othelo wrote:
KK is jinxed!!! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Sad Sad
bad omen
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
murchr
#43 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:00:55 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Othelo wrote:
KK is jinxed!!! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Sad Sad
bad omen


@mlennyma, How will you survive given your addiction to the NSE? Pray
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#44 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:03:04 PM
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Fetero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Fetero wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Like I said in my signature CGT is DoA. You can't fight capital.

Very sad indeed. Poor show from Treasury. Totally disappointed by this lot Sad


Esp that KRA guy, total lack of creativity. Suspension as of tomorrow, wao! I hope this will stop capital flight.

This is the perfect time to catch discounted waves. And the angel of the Lord said to them Behold manna from heaven and eat!

@fetero this is not a time to joke.. please

@Obiero, am Trying to tell my heart to cool down in that verse my brother. I just jumped with my two feet jana by purchasing quite some volume. Cool down my heart oh my soul...it feels like red hot pepper in my mouth....I need some cold water please guys.

@fetero. mos mos osiepna.. stockmarket di maber. meaning, take heart my friend, the stockmarket shall be well

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mwenza
#45 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:04:53 PM
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Am sure when @MaichBlack said the other day that this govt will one day collect "100% of nothing" he didn't have this in mind..... Sema ulcers central!!!!
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stockshunter
#46 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:10:15 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Am sure when @MaichBlack said the other day that this govt will one day collect "100% of nothing" he didn't have this in mind..... Sema ulcers central!!!!




wa wa wa! Am extremely lucky to have sold some shares last week for funding a project I am working on. This will get angry, I feel for those who have entered into contracts and the expected to fund the projects through sale of shares, What will happen to employees of businesses that rely on Stock market to pay them for example, stockbrokers? Massive loss of jobs. The party is over the bear will officially kick in after trades resume, starting with foreigners exit. confidence in our market will go down tremendously.
fear makes people live a miserable life.
mwekez@ji
#47 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:11:00 PM
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On the brighter side, CGT on stocks may be abolished ;)
The optimist
#48 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:14:11 PM
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stockshunter wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Am sure when @MaichBlack said the other day that this govt will one day collect "100% of nothing" he didn't have this in mind..... Sema ulcers central!!!!




wa wa wa! Am extremely lucky to have sold some shares last week for funding a project I am working on. This will get angry, I feel for those who have entered into contracts and the expected to fund the projects through sale of shares, What will happen to employees of businesses that rely on Stock market to pay them for example, stockbrokers? Massive loss of jobs. The party is over the bear will officially kick in after trades resume, starting with foreigners exit. confidence in our market will go down tremendously.

On the flip side..This is enough pressure to suspend the CGT on stocks till KRA puts their house in order.
The optimist
#49 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:17:18 PM
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obiero wrote:
Fetero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Fetero wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Like I said in my signature CGT is DoA. You can't fight capital.

Very sad indeed. Poor show from Treasury. Totally disappointed by this lot Sad


Esp that KRA guy, total lack of creativity. Suspension as of tomorrow, wao! I hope this will stop capital flight.

This is the perfect time to catch discounted waves. And the angel of the Lord said to them Behold manna from heaven and eat!

@fetero this is not a time to joke.. please

@Obiero, am Trying to tell my heart to cool down in that verse my brother. I just jumped with my two feet jana by purchasing quite some volume. Cool down my heart oh my soul...it feels like red hot pepper in my mouth....I need some cold water please guys.

@fetero. mos mos osiepna.. stockmarket di maber. meaning, take heart my friend, the stockmarket shall be well

Hii mambo ni mbaya kweli.
@Obiero speaking in tongues makes it even more grave>
stockshunter
#50 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:19:09 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
On the brighter side, CGT on stocks may be abolished ;)



By then the damage maybe irreversible in near future, the homeostasis of the market will be disturbed.
fear makes people live a miserable life.
VituVingiSana
#51 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:29:28 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
muganda wrote:
Hope you are holding the right shares... because brokers are going to test the Warren Buffett saying of 'I buy on the assumption that they could close the market the next day and not reopen it for five years."

And what's with this group-think, first from teachers, to media, now brokers!

Kenyan stockbrokers plan to suspend trading at the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) for a month to await a court ruling on a capital gains tax row. http://www.businessdailyafrica....38/-/wjh73i/-/index.html

This one is dangerous practice.Sad d'oh! Market reaction will not be pleasant...Pray
I understand the woes of the Stockbrokers. They are being made responsible for their clients' Tax Calculations! Who wants to be responsible for someone else's Tax Calculations unless you are paid to do so AND have the necessary information.

KRA did not release guidelines until late December. And then keeps on revising the guidelines as folks find holes in them.

CGT is not the problem but the law/guidelines/implementation was not properly thought out. Ridiculous!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
whiteowl
#52 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:32:07 PM
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littledove
#53 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:37:15 PM
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trading will continue normally tomorrow, although opening might delay, reliable sources
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
Othelo
#54 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:37:42 PM
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Meetings in progress both for digital migration and CGT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

In an effort to ward off what would be a crippling stoppage at the bourse, Kenya's Capital Markets Authority (CMA) called for a meeting on Thursday night with bourse members and the NSE, to "discuss measures to protect the systemic stability of the capital markets in Kenya", the CMA said in a statement.

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ecstacy
#55 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:40:13 PM
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obiero wrote:
this is why I voted for Raila

The one who launched StarTimes then opposed it or the one who called NSE investors drug barons? Leave politics out of this one.
whiteowl
#56 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:42:39 PM
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This is one good way of sparking capital flight. What treasury/KRA are doing is akin to economic sabotage. Guys are really scared! users browsing this topic>> Fetero, Guest (23), littledove , MoneyMonger ,
murchr , VituVingiSana , whiteowl
nzomah1
#57 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:44:34 PM
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This government seems bent on killing entreprise in kenya. Discouraging capital investments is like throwing this debt ladden economy to the dogs.
ecstacy
#58 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:49:29 PM
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Leave the Executive out of this. Let the systems run their course. Short term discomfort for long term stability.
TheGeek
#59 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:50:02 PM
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muganda wrote:
Hope you are holding the right shares... because brokers are going to test the Warren Buffett saying of 'I buy on the assumption that they could close the market the next day and not reopen it for five years."

And what's with this group-think, first from teachers, to media, now brokers!

Kenyan stockbrokers plan to suspend trading at the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) for a month to await a court ruling on a capital gains tax row. http://www.businessdailyafrica....38/-/wjh73i/-/index.html


Weak shilling,Sideways market, vapor volumes , brokers vs Kra swordplay, FTA Media blackout, Militarization of the security forces and many more.....

Time to defend your stock portfolios ladies and gents, GOLD...
In the world of securities, courage and patience become the supreme virtues after adequate knowledge and a tested judgment are at hand.
Boris Boyka
#60 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:52:10 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
muganda wrote:
Hope you are holding the right shares... because brokers are going to test the Warren Buffett saying of 'I buy on the assumption that they could close the market the next day and not reopen it for five years."

And what's with this group-think, first from teachers, to media, now brokers!

Kenyan stockbrokers plan to suspend trading at the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) for a month to await a court ruling on a capital gains tax row. http://www.businessdailyafrica....38/-/wjh73i/-/index.html

This one is dangerous practice.Sad d'oh! Market reaction will not be pleasant...Pray
I understand the woes of the Stockbrokers. They are being made responsible for their clients' Tax Calculations! Who wants to be responsible for someone else's Tax Calculations unless you are paid to do so AND have the necessary information.

KRA did not release guidelines until late December. And then keeps on revising the guidelines as folks find holes in them.

CGT is not the problem but the law/guidelines/implementation was not properly thought out. Ridiculous!

@vvs indeed the stockbrokers are between a hard place and a rock...but that caught me unawaresd'oh! given my meal was cooking well ready to eat . This confusion will affect market unless it is resolved today. Poor Advisory.
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