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Luo mourning - I seek to understand.
Impunity
#21 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:10:26 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Utalia sana!
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PeterReborn
#22 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:12:09 PM
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McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?

We were there for a week and every day was feasting day.I dont know the numbers but almost the whole village was there.
Consistency is better than intensity
PeterReborn
#23 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:14:42 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
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Impunity wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Utalia sana!

Should we just follow a culture blindly without looking at the consequences?
Consistency is better than intensity
McReggae
#24 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:18:30 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?

We were there for a week and every day was feasting day.I dont know the numbers but almost the whole village was there.


Were you also feasting for the whole week?
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Impunity
#25 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:39:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?

We were there for a week and every day was feasting day.I dont know the numbers but almost the whole village was there.


Were you also feasting for the whole week?


Good question.
I wonder why someone would travel all the way from the slopes of Mt. Kenya to go feast in a funeral for a whole week, and also have the audacity to squat and sh*t in the bereaved pit latrine!

And going by his explanation of feasting period, this was not a "humble" guy...this is a guy who had made it.
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PeterReborn
#26 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:19:15 PM
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Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?

We were there for a week and every day was feasting day.I dont know the numbers but almost the whole village was there.


Were you also feasting for the whole week?


Good question.
I wonder why someone would travel all the way from the slopes of Mt. Kenya to go feast in a funeral for a whole week, and also have the audacity to squat and sh*t in the bereaved pit latrine!

And going by his explanation of feasting period, this was not a "humble" guy...this is a guy who had made it.

You can talk all the sh*t that you want but I don't give a f***.As to the reason for my travel-Its called love.My friend was a student who was paying his siblings school fees through the HELB loan that he was receiving
Consistency is better than intensity
PeterReborn
#27 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:43:52 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
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McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?

We were there for a week and every day was feasting day.I dont know the numbers but almost the whole village was there.


Were you also feasting for the whole week?

I don't have a problem with the feasting but when you go and eat a poor man's goat,bring two . Don't be a liability to the family
Consistency is better than intensity
Impunity
#28 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:45:12 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
PeterReborn wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?

We were there for a week and every day was feasting day.I dont know the numbers but almost the whole village was there.


Were you also feasting for the whole week?

I don't have a problem with the feasting but when you go and eat a poor man's goat,bring two . Don't be a liability to the family


The question was very clear:Did you also eat the poor man's goat for a whole week?
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#29 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:48:01 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
PeterReborn wrote:
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
McReggae wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
I don't known much about the luo culture but something has been bothering me since I lost a very close friend of mine and went to his burial in Rongo.
I understand that people must celebrate your life when you are gone but why should you leave the family more miserable?
My friend came from a humble background was the bread winner in the family and he was taking care of his parents and siblings.
When the mourners came to condole the family,they ate all the 'assets' the family had-goats,cows,maize in the name of celebrating his life.The parents couldn't afford to pay the school fees and we had to have a fundraiser as friends to see them through school.
A culture should be done away with if it doesn't add value to society.


Okay.....they ate all of them? Numbers?

We were there for a week and every day was feasting day.I dont know the numbers but almost the whole village was there.


Were you also feasting for the whole week?


Good question.
I wonder why someone would travel all the way from the slopes of Mt. Kenya to go feast in a funeral for a whole week, and also have the audacity to squat and sh*t in the bereaved pit latrine!

And going by his explanation of feasting period, this was not a "humble" guy...this is a guy who had made it.

You can talk all the sh*t that you want but I don't give a f***.As to the reason for my travel-Its called love.My friend was a student who was paying his siblings school fees through the HELB loan that he was receiving


You are just a dunderhead!
How can a poor student from a poor background sustain feasting goats and chickens for a week in his funeral?
You are so thick you cant even understand your own writing.
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jaggernaut
#30 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:06:59 PM
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www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29951679

C&P

Samuel Ochieng waits outside a mortuary in the western
Kenyan city of Kisumu every Thursday and Friday looking for
bereaved families.
The 36-year-old is a professional mourner and his voice and
his motorcycle are his only source of income.
For years hired mourners have been paid to go round the city
at breakneck speed on motorbikes, swerving from one side of
the road to the other, piercing the air with loud whistles and
blaring horns from early in the morning.
"They pay us to make noise and use our bikes to go round the
city. They will buy whistles and alcohol. We will then do the
job," says Mr Ochieng.
"The lowest amount of money we get paid is $6 (£3.80) and
on a good day we can make $12."
Grieving families believe the louder the noise and the bigger
the procession, the greater the honour for the deceased.
And they are willing to spend huge amounts of money for a
lap of honour around the city - traditionally on the last two
days of the working week.
This is because in the Luo community burials normally happen
on a Saturday, so a body will stay in the house for viewing for
a day or two before.
A crowded funeral procession is a symbol of the popularity
and fame of the family.
The paid mourners are briefed about the life of the deceased
and for hours, they will scream and chant their name.
"We have to show people that the person who has just died
was important, [then] the family feels good," explains Mr
Ochieng.
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