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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Atalaku wrote:Muriel wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:Atalaku wrote:
To me this is just an improved versionof kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
Anyone selling anything you cant afford will be 'dealt with' for being unfair. hmmm...... The Irony. I would have laughed, but someone has died and all deaths are painful. What do you mean? Laughed at what? I may have been mistaken. It wasn't a virtual jab? Oh well ,,,
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
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[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Muriel wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:T-Bag wrote:POD RIP
Prioritize Organize Discipline!
NKT ..... and Kanyari is roaming the streets! Satan can't do anything unless permitted by God ;ref Job's scenario. God himself can kill or allow life depending with situation;ref sodom case. If you're too good to ppl ,you become a righteous"god" & God being jealous you won't live longer thus "watu wazuri hufa mapema Kwa nini? Do not be righteous overmuch or make yourself overwise why should you destroy yourself . Do not be evil overmuch nor a fool why die before your time ." If you're evil Satan likes how you help him and God gives you more time to repent thus "mbona huyu mchawi hakufi?" There is a righteous man who perishes in his righteousness and there is a wicked man who prolongs his life in his evil deeds. I have not recognized this theology. Must be a new one. Perhaps new church? Hmmmm. Not theology per se but begin with Eccl 7:14-17, then the whole Ecclesiastes & other books of the bible with rules & teachings like proverbs. Good luck in finding it. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
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[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
people mourn when the departed is somehow connected to them, as for Dr Munroe, he had a connection with a good number of the rich, the upper middle class and those others longing to attain the same, plus of course all those who sought spiritual nourishment from his pastoral services. so when such an individual departs those who somehow benefited, or were looking towards benefiting from him will feel a loss, as for the kapendo scenario, it's not a westgate and so only the directly affected individuals will feel a loss.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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washiku wrote:Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think? my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point. just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. 
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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His talk on JKL and in his motivational talks could only mean he was pouring out the little that had been left of him. Indeed he has not died, as his words outlives and he will continue to whisper to our inner thoughts many years to come. He must have accomplished his purpose.
Fare thee well.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Boris Boyka wrote:Muriel wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:T-Bag wrote:POD RIP
Prioritize Organize Discipline!
NKT ..... and Kanyari is roaming the streets! Satan can't do anything unless permitted by God ;ref Job's scenario. God himself can kill or allow life depending with situation;ref sodom case. If you're too good to ppl ,you become a righteous"god" & God being jealous you won't live longer thus "watu wazuri hufa mapema Kwa nini? Do not be righteous overmuch or make yourself overwise why should you destroy yourself . Do not be evil overmuch nor a fool why die before your time ." If you're evil Satan likes how you help him and God gives you more time to repent thus "mbona huyu mchawi hakufi?" There is a righteous man who perishes in his righteousness and there is a wicked man who prolongs his life in his evil deeds. I have not recognized this theology. Must be a new one. Perhaps new church? Hmmmm. Not theology per se but begin with Eccl 7:14-17, then the whole Ecclesiastes & other books of the bible with rules & teachings like proverbs. Good luck in finding it. Thank you. I sure will. Sometime.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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nakujua wrote:washiku wrote:Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think? my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point. just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. 
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/5/2008 Posts: 532 Location: Nairobi
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The good doctor didn't die. He lives forever through his works. Fare thee well!
Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/10/2014 Posts: 78
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Kratos wrote:nakujua wrote:washiku wrote:Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think? my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point. just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. I wouldn't think of it as being outwitted, rather paying for value(same way you pay for lectures in school), though personally as much as I love his advise, I wouldn't pay that much for attendance, may be 500 bob.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Takeshi wrote:Kratos wrote:nakujua wrote:washiku wrote:Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think? my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point. just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. I wouldn't think of it as being outwitted, rather paying for value(same way you pay for lectures in school), though personally as much as I love his advise, I wouldn't pay that much for attendance, may be 500 bob. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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kivairu wrote:The good doctor didn't die. He lives forever through his works. Fare thee well! At 2:10, he says "We don't die, we are eternal spirits."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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nakujua wrote:washiku wrote:Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think? my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point. just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self.  Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor?
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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washiku wrote:nakujua wrote:washiku wrote:Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think? my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point. just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor? @ washiku It all depends on where each of us gets motivation from. What motivates you may not necessarily motivate me. Some have very different orientations and some have very different perspectives. Some are inspired by objects not necessarily human beings. Its a difficult subject which can best be described by akina @Tycho and @Muriel
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 488
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If u ever listened to Dr Munroe (RIP) and didn't get moved,then..
I first watched/listened to him more than 10 yrs ago on the subject of "potential and how the cemetery is the richest point on earth". I was awed by his deep intellect and sense of interrogating issues.
So you can imagine my joy at listening/watching him live recently at JCC...
He has made a great contribution to mankind; so lets celebrate him..and his wife too.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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washiku wrote:nakujua wrote:washiku wrote:Atalaku wrote:As we mourn a foreigner let us not forget the 24+ policemen who died on the line of duty recently! To be honest I have not read or listened to anything from him. And I chose not to.
C&P
[i]Dr Myles Munroe will be in Nairobi for his first ever trip to Kenya. He is set to give a talk at the Safari Park Hotel on October 21 dubbed The Potential Dinner. According to the flier, the gate charges go for Sh15,000[/i]
To me this is just an improved version of Dr Prophet Kanyari. You cant sell HOPE... If he was a good man (He is quite rich from the motivational talks he gives and the proceeds from the books he has written and appearance fees he is paid), he should have charged reasonably well to enable poor folks like me attend. God is good all the time. He has a way of dealing with unfairness. All you need to do is to trust and believe that he exists and he is all powerful. Ni hayo tu...
@Atalaku, I get what your point is, but I tend to think this guy is different if you look at it critically. I want to think of him as a coach. If you listen to him, he does training on "how to be the best in what you were created to be". In fact, anybody, whether a Christian or not, can listen to him and apply the principles thereof to better themselves. Motivational speakers are paid top dollar for their time. Mentorship programmes too could be very expensive. This is a bit different from Kanyari who tells you to drink salty water, or cheats you completely using chemicals that unatoka damu. In fact, studies shows that a workforce that has a serious motivational and mentorship programme performs better in the long term. That is why HR departments invests heavily in such issues. Well, I dont know whether you get my side of the coin, but although I respect your version of it, I feel these two people are different in their approach. One is an outright conman, the other works towards bringing the best out of you, and ensuring you are focusing on the important things of life. Or what do you think? my 2 cents, they are the same, selling a service just operating at different social levels, they both motivate their following using different strategies - one will hoodwink you with the food and aura at safari park while the other will use some cheap chemical to drive home his point. just depends on which side you are being outwitted from and whether the dupe sticks deep enough for you to believe and thus change your self. Let me ask you guys...would you buy his book on Leadership? Would you pay a teacher who is teaching leadership courses? If you had a company, and you wanted someone to speak to your staff to give them a "punch", would you call Kanyari or the late doctor? Imagine if you own a housegirl/boys agency, or you own a fleet of matatus and you have employed lots of matatu conductors - who would you rather talks to them ? either way, life has different views - if you only look at it through your lens it will always be distorted in only one way and you will think that is the correct one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,796 Location: nairobi
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some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead.. ..... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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[quote=obiero some of the people putting down the impact of this man do not have anything to leave behind for mankind.. atleast I have a MBA thesis from a top university to be read by future generations, google 'collins obiero mba impact'.. dont mean to sound rude, but its just wrong to disrespect the dead..[/quote]
Hahahahaha...if people were to place their achievements here you would go hiding with your MBA...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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CNN...Jet crash in Bahamas kills nine... mmmmmmmmhhhhhh....
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