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#21 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:12:24 AM
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@rryyzz, sometimes its just not easy to show the humility when discusing as my self/full identity vs some anonymous character who has no idea how the construction industry works, even after its clear that i would not encourage the same to come to my office for consultancy services.

We all know that in kenya, any small issue with a project would get easily blown out of proportion by kenyan media, both mainstream and tabloid.
its not practically possible for me to be in this industry over 10 years and survive such negative publicity. the only reason i would say there are no such stories is that there are no disatisfied clients that i know of. inmost cases, bad news travel faster than good news so being publicly online for over 10 years in forums would have by now attracted even 1 negative story but none so far.

Its a tough competitive world out here so any news, mostly negative news, would by now have been posted online if they were in existence.
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S.Mutaga III
#22 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:23:41 AM
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I think I side with a4architect on this one. He made an offer to refer the client to an architect who can assist her so I dont see what the fuss is all about. It is like telling some billionaire to have a personal bank account in Equity Bank, it does not work like that ninjas. After all, what will graduate architects do if established ones take even the micro projects that they are supposed to be working on? I support a4architect 101%. Some people just dont see the point. The project does not fall within his niche but he is willing to refer her to someone who can help.
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#23 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:29:05 AM
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@smutaga111, well said. most importantly, i have also adviced @binti on how to procure consultants without loosing out. In Kenya, with the fierce competition, no consultant would like to loose his practicing licence, which is issued annually. If a consultant has had serious issues , he looses out on the practicing certificate. Now that @binti has known the most fool proof method to source consultants,not through gossip/forum, which might mislead both positively, with false praises, and negatively, with false accusations, she/he can now go ahead and execute their project.
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Jitahidi
#24 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:31:20 AM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
I think I side with a4architect on this one. He made an offer to refer the client to an architect who can assist her so I dont see what the fuss is all about. It is like telling some billionaire to have a personal bank account in Equity Bank, it does not work like that ninjas. After all, what will graduate architects do if established ones take even the micro projects that they are supposed to be working on? I support a4architect 101%. Some people just dont see the point. The project does not fall within his niche but he is willing to refer her to someone who can help.


I also support a4architect...infact we should thank him for offering advise for free...that is why the likes of Ahmednasir Abdullahi, the famous lawyer will not just accept any client who walks into his office (or accept all sort of cases)...he has a niche
Jus Blazin
#25 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:35:42 AM
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Man, what is wrong with you?? Why are you going ballistic on a simple request??? Such a douche. Binti asked what anyone else would ask. We discuss about banks, service providers, et al. So she's been following you on wazua and was making enquiries from others. The simple thing you would have done, apart from curbing your oversized ego, was to ask her kindly the type of project she wanted to undertake, then advise her kindly that you don't undertake such projects and you would, again, kindly, refer her to someone else.

Saying a residential house project is unserious is bollocks. Your initial response was okay and you should have stopped at that and waited for her response. After that, dude, even rude has nothing on you. Not everyone comprehends the construction industry. I am with @alma on this... SMH!
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Jus Blazin
#26 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:37:34 AM
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And, by the way, I think you fell for @popat's post... There's intelligence, then there's wisdom.
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meme
#27 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:38:17 AM
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Jitahidi wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
I think I side with a4architect on this one. He made an offer to refer the client to an architect who can assist her so I dont see what the fuss is all about. It is like telling some billionaire to have a personal bank account in Equity Bank, it does not work like that ninjas. After all, what will graduate architects do if established ones take even the micro projects that they are supposed to be working on? I support a4architect 101%. Some people just dont see the point. The project does not fall within his niche but he is willing to refer her to someone who can help.


I also support a4architect...infact we should thank him for offering advise for free...that is why the likes of Ahmednasir Abdullahi, the famous lawyer will not just accept any client who walks into his office (or accept all sort of cases)...he has a niche




While I agree that A4 may have been right, maybe the way he handled the issue wasnt veeery nice.We at wazua dont have to know that she is not "serious" or "does not understand the construction industry". I however am very glad for all the free info and advice that A4 gives concerning the industry.

And OOOh, S.Mutunga,lots of billionaires bank with Equity.Totally unrelated to the thread, but I thought you should know.
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a4architect.com
#28 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:39:23 AM
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@jitahidi, well said. to survive in kenyan construction world , full of sharks of every variety, waiting to pounce at every opportunity is not easy. over the years, someone just has to set the goals to a particular type of clientele, leave other niches for others who are starting up and life continues. Am more into corporate and projects of a commercial nature eg malls, apartments for sale where more complex designs that include financial planning are needed. I also partake residentials but only for a few who have demonstrated ability to comprehend and respect best practices in the construction world. I remember when we were starting out, we would take any project . At some point, the clients would also expect us to work full time daily from 8am to 5pm with the fundis, replacing the foremen. Now, its of no use to try and explain to such a client on how we come in. We leave such to the young graduants to start where we were then they also learn with time that its not every client who walks in your office that can be taken in.
From @binti's posts, she/he is still very green as a developer. They probably do not know the difference between an architect, engineer , contractor and foreman. They also probably dont know how and where to ascertain practicing certificates and experiences/knowledge sets of consultants. To take up such a client requires the energies of the younger architects who have just graduated. It requires alot of patience. Its the same way that other older architects doing huge international projects would look at my niche. To them, it takes too much energy to take in my niche clientele . Thats how the industry works. We cant all work on all niche types.
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S.Mutaga III
#29 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:47:08 AM
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A4architect...dont bother replying because the more you try to justify yourself, the more they keep repeating the same old stuff. I think Binti's vetting of a4architect is of no significance since the architect does not operate within her niche. With that said, the thread does not serve its purpose and admin should delete it asap...my two and a half cents
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rryyzz
#30 Posted : Thursday, September 04, 2014 12:53:22 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@rryyzz, sometimes its just not easy to show the humility when discusing as my self/full identity vs some anonymous character who has no idea how the construction industry works, even after its clear that i would not encourage the same to come to my office for consultancy services.

We all know that in kenya, any small issue with a project would get easily blown out of proportion by kenyan media, both mainstream and tabloid.
its not practically possible for me to be in this industry over 10 years and survive such negative publicity. the only reason i would say there are no such stories is that there are no disatisfied clients that i know of. inmost cases, bad news travel faster than good news so being publicly online for over 10 years in forums would have by now attracted even 1 negative story but none so far.

Its a tough competitive world out here so any news, mostly negative news, would by now have been posted online if they were in existence.


Ok. understood. For the record, I'm not doubting the quality of your work. My issue was that your response, seemed harsh.
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