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Mukiri
#21 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:30:01 PM
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This is a wake-up call to invest in alternative forms of medicine.

Proverbs 19:21
Bykhovets
#22 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:05:58 PM
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I haven't seen the documentary yet.

The problem with KNH Casualty (and the entire KNH) is legendary.

The GoK has never considered healthcare as a priority.
"Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
Rankaz13
#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:24:58 PM
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I watched that documentary 'live-live' on k24 yesterday and I hang my head in shame. Shared it with some colleagues and we were all in agreement: sometimes we blame everybody and everything else when the problem is actually ourselves.
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murchr
#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:36:21 PM
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I believe this negligence can be curbed if the docs oversight body was strict enough to make an impact. If this is replicated in all other public facilities, then, we have walking murderes on our streets
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alma
#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:00:52 PM
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murchr wrote:
I believe this negligence can be curbed if the docs oversight body was strict enough to make an impact. If this is replicated in all other public facilities, then, we have walking murderes on our streets


Are you talking about an oversight body headed by the same fat faces I've seen running that hospital?

You are ever the optimist.

The system is rotten because the people running it are rotten. This is a case of a bed bug attack. Only the ones who burn their mattresses survive.
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babaroy
#26 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:01:57 PM
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Problem with Kenyans, is hat they do not read reports compiled by experts...

A Health systems assessment report funded by USAID in 2010 states that?:

1) Kenya's health care system is grossly underfunded at 6% GDP

2).Inadequate manpower, that is poorly trained, poorly supervised, poorly distributed and poorly remunerated.

3). Use of outdated medical technologies.

4). Decision making not based on scientific data.

5). Clashing legislations...
harrydre
#27 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:19:34 PM
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sad sad sad video to watch! Sad

We need to get serious as Africans!
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Nabwire
#28 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 8:42:39 AM
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Maybe I'm naïve but it looks like the workers are overworked and underpaid. Looks like they don't have enough personnel that's why you come in at night and have to wait until the next day to have an xray. This is really sad coz the patients suffer and die needlessly. I'm just wondering why the doctors cant just form their own private practice, this will give them incentives to work longer and treat patients well, coz they will essentially be self employed. With private practices, competition will force the doctors to work more efficiently and hire adequate staff, coz if your services are poor, the patient can just opt to take their business elsewhere. I'm not sure if private practices are even allowed in Kenya.
bkismat
#29 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 9:45:12 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
Maybe I'm naïve but it looks like the workers are overworked and underpaid. Looks like they don't have enough personnel that's why you come in at night and have to wait until the next day to have an xray. This is really sad coz the patients suffer and die needlessly. I'm just wondering why the doctors cant just form their own private practice, this will give them incentives to work longer and treat patients well, coz they will essentially be self employed. With private practices, competition will force the doctors to work more efficiently and hire adequate staff, coz if your services are poor, the patient can just opt to take their business elsewhere. I'm not sure if private practices are even allowed in Kenya.


You have been away for too long. Private practice exists but the prices are out of range from many mwananchi and they have to make do with KNH MTRH and the Level...... hospitals.
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tycho
#30 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 12:42:39 PM
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washiku wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ndemo did put forth several suggestions in yesterdays DN which include evaluating those who get into med sch before they get in the program. That "A" is not a real measure of qualification, there's need 4 us to learn from best practices applied elsewhere.


How should students be evaluated?

What country or countries should we emulate? And why haven't we been able to learn from such models?


Read Ndemos article


Thank you for the prompt @murchr. I have read it.

Now what am wondering is whether we are supposed to be agreeing with Dr. Ndemo or are supposed to think along him.


What do you think?


The disease is in how we think. Airlifts, and people with a partiality for medicine being given priority are escalating commitment to the disease.

It's curious that Dr. Ndemo isn't talking about making use of digital technology to learn. More health practitioners would learn at lower costs. So why 'airlifts'?

Because of the disease. We are too sick! He's talking about isolation. And he doesn't know that by bowing to the disease, he affirms it and becomes the disease.

Then 'ditto!' and another one, and another one, to the 'nth term'.

'Wimbi la maneno na kelele! Kupanda kelele, na kuvuna kelele'.
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