you must have done some funny course with funny lecturers. in my year and class the lecturers were spoiling to fail guys. and only like one guy got first class. most guys passed just coz it was hard for them to fail - but there were enough supplementaries, most undeserved.

i have worked with graduates and non graduates.i would say the non graduates outperforms the graduates in the same professional tasks. the non graduates eagerly learn on the job and are flexible while the graduates are rigid knowit all internet zombies concentrating on facebook and other timewasting social sites.

graduates behave like wheelbarrow.you have to push them to get any meaningful output.

Which Public University did @2012 go to? Ati nobody fails.

Its only in public universities that Lecturers want you to fail!

@Newfarer, are you a graduate?

A graduate is say in Accounting is not supposed to be an accountant caryying out routine tasks of debiting and crediting(anyone can do that).

A graduate is supposed to be a management accountant or a finance person, who provides strategic leadership and decision making for issues to do with accounting and finance.

Otherwise if you take an a graduate and make him/her an accountant to be debiting and crediting transaction which is the work of A KATC I; S/he is bound to fail.

Maybe our(us) graduates are not half baked but we end up dong the wrong assignments

Hands up to all the people who knew what 'JEBEL ALI' is. There are some things that are learned on the job.

I didn't say a graduate is not supposed to understand Dr and Cr;I said he is not supposed to be doing such basic accounting jobs(which in my view can be done by a person who has never done accounting);Its like having an office manager or admin manager prepare tea, sweep the office, replace tissues in the bathrooms, change ink toners replace bulbs etc.

The problem is having a graduate doing the wrong tasks which are not motivational enough thus they loose the focus and we think they are half baked yet it is the employer who gave the graduate the wrong tasks.

For example, I don't understand why banks insist on having tellers/cashiers to be graduates yet it is just counting money(or confirming the money count from the money dispenses) and recording. a job that can be done by a form four person of KATC 1.

See what Equity are doing by hiring people who just left highschool as cashiers and tellers

A graduate is an all round person.He should not be choosy.A graduate must learn to multi-task.One of the reasons y we have high employment is because graduates look down upon some jobs that are considered low skilled.The graduates overate themselves.Some have no experience but want a big salary and will spend the whole day on Fb and other social sites like Wazua talking politics.It is no wonder that some companies would rather hire a diploma in Engineering from Kenya poly than a graduate or that Safaricom and Nakumatt prefer diploma graduates than university graduates.

I like this sort of thread.... A mere cursory look at it can serve as a very good indicator of academic qualifications of wazuans.

There is no way somebody with a university degree can criticize the same.

The article @Swenani attached indicates that "at least half of graduates produced by East African universities lack employability skills, technical mastery and basic work-related capabilities". That 50% probably includes mimi na wewe......

@murchr, Accounting exams CANNOT be in excel because it's not all about computations. There is law, management, taxation theory etc.

The problem is the EASY route to a degree. Para and private universities admit students with very low marks, as low as grade D.

If in high school one could not get good grades, how on earth do they go to university and PASS with degrees? Whatever stopped them from passing in high school, will stop them from learning and "passing" at the work place. That's the general rule.

Dimwits with degrees and a good deal of ATTITUDE to boot!