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East Africa's largest economy?
mpobiz
#21 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 7:37:05 PM
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mkeiy wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
The way I am seeing here is that you have chosen countries with high populations as role models.
China, India and now Ethiopia
According to wikipedia Ethiopia = 94mil people
Wherever there is a big population there is cheap labour and exploitation. That's a heaven for investors who's only aim is to make a quick profit.
That is how growth is accelerated in this countries at the expense of the majority of it's citizens.
So in order to achieve fast growth, we either strike oil(like Ghana) or we create a baby boom in order to fill the factories of the future.



Really? Baby boom to fill the factories of the future? Why can't we have present day factories to be filled by our unemployed youths?

What baby boom did Taiwan ,Singapore or South Korea have to grow their economies?

Your current unemployed youth are not desperate enough.
The kind of treatment that workers go through in countries like China and India your lowest Kenyan worker wouldn't take it.. This kind of exploitation is what is accelerating the GDP in some of this countries. This is attributed to high population.
during the 1970s and 80s when our government was concentrating on agriculture . In Taiwan and south Korea factory Workers endured 16 hour working day and eventually things improved and moved the back breaking jobs to China and India.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
masukuma
#22 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:54:33 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
The way I am seeing here is that you have chosen countries with high populations as role models.
China, India and now Ethiopia
According to wikipedia Ethiopia = 94mil people
Wherever there is a big population there is cheap labour and exploitation. That's a heaven for investors who's only aim is to make a quick profit.
That is how growth is accelerated in this countries at the expense of the majority of it's citizens.
So in order to achieve fast growth, we either strike oil(like Ghana) or we create a baby boom in order to fill the factories of the future.



Really? Baby boom to fill the factories of the future? Why can't we have present day factories to be filled by our unemployed youths?

What baby boom did Taiwan ,Singapore or South Korea have to grow their economies?

Your current unemployed youth are not desperate enough.
The kind of treatment that workers go through in countries like China and India your lowest Kenyan worker wouldn't take it.. This kind of exploitation is what is accelerating the GDP in some of this countries. This is attributed to high population.
during the 1970s and 80s when our government was concentrating on agriculture . In Taiwan and south Korea factory Workers endured 16 hour working day and eventually things improved and moved the back breaking jobs to China and India.

the path to success is not political! it's back breaking work and exploitation of resources (HR and natural). watu wendele tu kutafuta Messiah!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
simonkabz
#23 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 10:29:26 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Toshy wrote:
If as the world bank claims, mobile money transactions make up 20% of our GDP and last year we transacted 1.7 trillion ksh (20 billion USD) doesn't that make our GDP closer to 100 billion USD? This means the figure of 40 billion USD being mentioned is a gross underestimate of our economic size.


This finally makes sense. Our GDP is generally much larger than quoted simply because many of the units of activities in our economy are never counted.

Picture this, somewhere in deep Murang'a, a housewife ties a baby to her back and spends the day collecting firewood for boiling Githeri. End result is the family feeds that day, impact on economy is nil coz the household planted the maize and beans used to make the Githeri in their subsistence shamba.

now in the UK, wifey goes to work at the tube and earns 1,500 pounds per month, takes children to a nanny who charges 300 pounds per month, in the evening she buys premade frozen food for more pounds and cooks it with electricity and freezes it with electiricity,

The activities for the UK household are recorded and add to the size of the economy without improving the individuals life while the Kenyans are not recorded and wrongly depress ours.

Trust me if you are middo crass in Kenya, you are missing nothing in this world


I think you hit the nail on the head.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
simonkabz
#24 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 10:48:31 PM
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Back to Ethiopia vs Kenya, I want to use my own wicked ranking. We got quite a number of large developed towns n cities in almost every region, with Nbi hosting a larger population than Addis~I want to believe this is quite a good [rough] indicator of the status of the economy. Add the overall effect of 47 county HQs. How about Abyssinia?

Are the economic activities of ASAL areas captured anywhere esp livestock rearing by nomadic communities? I think we could be the tallest dwarf.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
kiash
#25 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:02:17 PM
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willin2learn wrote:
Sasha should tell us what Ethiopians are doing differently.



Actually , there is one thing they are doing differently, they are giving out free land (well call it explo*****tion ) there is a story am sure some people here know about Sher Karuturi who have invested a lot in Ethiopia. They got free land to farm for several years and soon Ethiopia might be over taking Kenya as a source of those cursed flowers.But the price is like they did in Russia i hear people do not own land it belongs to the gov and the gov can give it to whoever it wishes . In this case Sher .
Mukiri
#26 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:02:42 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Back to Ethiopia vs Kenya, I want to use my own wicked ranking. We got quite a number of large developed towns n cities in almost every region, with Nbi hosting a larger population than Addis~I want to believe this is quite a good [rough] indicator of the status of the economy. Add the overall effect of 47 county HQs. How about Abyssinia?

Are the economic activities of ASAL areas captured anywhere esp livestock rearing by nomadic communities? I think we could be the tallest dwarf.

Quit pumping your bony chestsmile Imagine how large a country Ethiopia is. If all their economic activities were to be tabulated too, we might even appear shorter. Have you seen how popular their leather shoes are in Kenya? We have nothing on them when it comes to animal husbandry.

However, I think the devolution will propel this country to great heights. 'Eating' will no-longer be centralized at the national level where nothing was expected; at county level there is pressure to perform. What is happening to the Governor, in Embu is serving as an example, what is happening in Machakos is serving as a motivation.

In 10-20 years we'll be the tallest dwarf.

Proverbs 19:21
simonkabz
#27 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:35:42 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Back to Ethiopia vs Kenya, I want to use my own wicked ranking. We got quite a number of large developed towns n cities in almost every region, with Nbi hosting a larger population than Addis~I want to believe this is quite a good [rough] indicator of the status of the economy. Add the overall effect of 47 county HQs. How about Abyssinia?

Are the economic activities of ASAL areas captured anywhere esp livestock rearing by nomadic communities? I think we could be the tallest dwarf.

Quit pumping your bony chestsmile Imagine how large a country Ethiopia is. If all their economic activities were to be tabulated too, we might even appear shorter. Have you seen how popular their leather shoes are in Kenya? We have nothing on them when it comes to animal husbandry.

However, I think the devolution will propel this country to great heights. 'Eating' will no-longer be centralized at the national level where nothing was expected; at county level there is pressure to perform. What is happening to the Governor, in Embu is serving as an example, what is happening in Machakos is serving as a motivation.

In 10-20 years we'll be the tallest dwarf.


Once the ongoing Djibouti~Addis SGR, JibeIII n the Grand renaissance dams are complete, the dust will choke us.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Mukiri
#28 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:39:20 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Back to Ethiopia vs Kenya, I want to use my own wicked ranking. We got quite a number of large developed towns n cities in almost every region, with Nbi hosting a larger population than Addis~I want to believe this is quite a good [rough] indicator of the status of the economy. Add the overall effect of 47 county HQs. How about Abyssinia?

Are the economic activities of ASAL areas captured anywhere esp livestock rearing by nomadic communities? I think we could be the tallest dwarf.

Quit pumping your bony chestsmile Imagine how large a country Ethiopia is. If all their economic activities were to be tabulated too, we might even appear shorter. Have you seen how popular their leather shoes are in Kenya? We have nothing on them when it comes to animal husbandry.

However, I think the devolution will propel this country to great heights. 'Eating' will no-longer be centralized at the national level where nothing was expected; at county level there is pressure to perform. What is happening to the Governor, in Embu is serving as an example, what is happening in Machakos is serving as a motivation.

In 10-20 years we'll be the tallest dwarf.


Once the ongoing Djibouti~Addis SGR, JibeIII n the Grand renaissance dams are complete, the dust will choke us.

Our oil, coal? The irrigation schemes by Uhuru? Even the controversial rail hapana mchezo. Don't write us off yet. Corruption ndio shida

Proverbs 19:21
kiash
#29 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:51:56 PM
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mpobiz
#30 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 12:13:33 AM
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kiash wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
Sasha should tell us what Ethiopians are doing differently.



Actually , there is one thing they are doing differently, they are giving out free land (well call it explo*****tion ) there is a story am sure some people here know about Sher Karuturi who have invested a lot in Ethiopia. They got free land to farm for several years and soon Ethiopia might be over taking Kenya as a source of those cursed flowers.But the price is like they did in Russia i hear people do not own land it belongs to the gov and the gov can give it to whoever it wishes . In this case Sher .

This is the biggest economic mistake a country can make , the government owning all the land. this has been discussed before here.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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