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Impunity
#41 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 5:17:12 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Pierce wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Pierce wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
A buddy is harvesting like 2k eggs a day n selling @80 bob a piece. I'm so so jelous damn.


I was hoping he is making 2k per day by selling eggs at 80 bob.........


This therefore goes to confirm there is solid, long lasting demand for the mayais!


I have heard of the successfull i am selling stories. What I haven't heard is WHO THE HECK ARE THE BUYERS???????

I have heard of older farmers selling to newer farmers who in turn sell to newbies as well. The retails market is what I cant figure out.

A buddy of mine is among the few last ones minting money, selling to new entrants. and he knows the next phase will be the retails mkt. by then the eggs will be going at 20bob or 10bob. They have already skimmed the top

Where is your buddy selling the eggs @simonkabz?


To newbies. The large, curious crowd of interested "quailvestors" at his home make the venture a scary one.


I have 3 pals that consume them daily, not sure how many a day.This bit is sustainable demand I guess.


For which condition.. health or vitality *hides*


Consuming 3 Quails or or 3 Quail eggs?

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#42 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 5:57:37 PM
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klan wrote:
My family consume not less than ten eggs per day. Klanlets love them raw and guess what? haven't visited hospital in a long time with the usual common colds........( I thank God). Coincidence maybe but can't rule out. I also have have other customers who don't like the Big eggs....

@Klan, How much do you sell each egg??
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Impunity
#43 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 5:59:54 PM
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ZZE123 wrote:
klan wrote:
My family consume not less than ten eggs per day. Klanlets love them raw and guess what? haven't visited hospital in a long time with the usual common colds........( I thank God). Coincidence maybe but can't rule out. I also have have other customers who don't like the Big eggs....

@Klan, How much do you sell each egg??


Fertilized eggs gor for KES 80 a piece, hiyo ingine ukiwachiwa sana ni KES 60.

Quairi...Quairi...Quairi...Quairi...Quairi...

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#44 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 6:10:06 PM
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At the heart of almost every fad in Kenya is a religious connection. If you want to generate hype in this country, all you do is start with church congregations and tie it to some spiritual benefit. The pyramid schemes rode on the prosperity gospel. Today it is all about the Jews eating quail in the wilderness. The propaganda spreads with evangelistic conviction. All reason goes out the window and the business becomes a cult albeit a very profitable one for the pioneers.
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 6:49:27 PM
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hehe...

Now trending on twitter; people are replacing movie titles with "quail"

smile
How I Quailed your mother,
two and a half Quails,
The Fast and The Quails
Quail in Manhattan
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Quails
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#46 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 6:56:27 PM
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Admin needs to accept that Club SK is where the majority are. This was discussed in other sections and the threads could barely make 20 posts. Hongera users and warriors!...on these birds, a good number of quailinvestors already know it's a pyramid but they're planning to exit once the returns dwindle, before it collapses. Not bad.
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:25:39 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Pierce wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
A buddy is harvesting like 2k eggs a day n selling @80 bob a piece. I'm so so jelous damn.


I was hoping he is making 2k per day by selling eggs at 80 bob.........


This therefore goes to confirm there is solid, long lasting demand for the mayais!


160k daily, and the demand is staggering. There is still money to be made for those who jumped in early, but the day of reckoning for freshers cannot be far off, maybe in 1 year......but then remember these things start laying at 3 wks old!...or so I heard.

Quick calculations show that if sold at 3 bob, there is still some good profit, assuming a modest daily expenditure of 2 bob per quail.


boss, i have seen this before. its called 'flooding', the one making the killing now is the guy selling fertilized eggs.... in a couple of months time "the flood will kick in" woe unto you if your quails will have just become layers at that point. watu watakula aluru mbaka zitoke mapua. I have seen this cycle many many times.
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tassia
#48 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:10:41 AM
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I am farming quails myself and here are facts and my opinion from my experience. I did not start very long ago and even if the prices crashed today, I have nothing to worry about. But I do expect that prices will crash. However, I have noted that there is a lot of hype about how people will make millions including promising people that there is a large market for export in China which is not true because China itself is the largest exporter of Quail products with more than 17,000 tonnes annually . This is mostly coming from those who started early and would want to continue selling to those who are starting now at very high prices. I would advise those who are entering the farming now not to buy chicks or fertilized eggs at the high prices on the market. Negotiate for a fair price or wait for the prices to drop further. If you buy at the very high prices, you may still make profit but it will take long before you recover your investment. If you have an incubator, you are in a better position as you can make good money by selling the chicks even at a lower rate. But here is some important facts.
1.Guys have made crazy money,a few made upwards of Kshs 8 Million per month in the months of December and November. That is like 16 Million
2. Those who were already selling incubators have made a kill by making extra-ordinary profit per incubator sold.
3. From my experience, it cost's just Kshs 1 to feed a mature bird per day, even if an egg was to cost Kshs 5, you will still be doing better than chicken farming
4.If you buy a two week or three week chick, you may not even need to employ anyone to look for them. The biggest challege is in the first 1 week and specifically the first four days.
5.I have noted that there is indeed a market for the eggs locally and the demand for consumption will grow when breeders have had enough stock. Those who are already taking the eggs are actually the ones who are encouraging others to take because they swear that they have experienced significant improvement from when they started taking the eggs. I believe the current prices do not make sense if farmers expect to sell to consumers at those crazy prices. Unfortunately, some farmers are convinced that the prices will not come down. There is now a very high risk that someone will sell you eggs more than 7 days old for incubation and you may suffer loss because it is becoming more tough to sell even the fertilized eggs at those prices.
6. I believe Quail farming is here to stay
Bigchick
#49 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:21:31 AM
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tassia wrote:
I am farming quails myself and here are facts and my opinion from my experience. I did not start very long ago and even if the prices crashed today, I have nothing to worry about. But I do expect that prices will crash. However, I have noted that there is a lot of hype about how people will make millions including promising people that there is a large market for export in China which is not true because China itself is the largest exporter of Quail products with more than 17,000 tonnes annually . This is mostly coming from those who started early and would want to continue selling to those who are starting now at very high prices. I would advise those who are entering the farming now not to buy chicks or fertilized eggs at the high prices on the market. Negotiate for a fair price or wait for the prices to drop further. If you buy at the very high prices, you may still make profit but it will take long before you recover your investment. If you have an incubator, you are in a better position as you can make good money by selling the chicks even at a lower rate. But here is some important facts.
1.Guys have made crazy money,a few made upwards of Kshs 8 Million per month in the months of December and November. That is like 16 Million
2. Those who were already selling incubators have made a kill by making extra-ordinary profit per incubator sold.
3. From my experience, it cost's just Kshs 1 to feed a mature bird per day, even if an egg was to cost Kshs 5, you will still be doing better than chicken farming
4.If you buy a two week or three week chick, you may not even need to employ anyone to look for them. The biggest challege is in the first 1 week and specifically the first four days.
5.I have noted that there is indeed a market for the eggs locally and the demand for consumption will grow when breeders have had enough stock. Those who are already taking the eggs are actually the ones who are encouraging others to take because they swear that they have experienced significant improvement from when they started taking the eggs. I believe the current prices do not make sense if farmers expect to sell to consumers at those crazy prices. Unfortunately, some farmers are convinced that the prices will not come down. There is now a very high risk that someone will sell you eggs more than 7 days old for incubation and you may suffer loss because it is becoming more tough to sell even the fertilized eggs at those prices.
6. I believe Quail farming is here to stay



Applause Applause Applause kwa mkulima wa quail.The rest of us are guessing and applying education.


How much are you selling the eggs and can I buy ya kukula?

I must taste that egg but not at that exorbitant price.



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#50 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 8:40:25 AM
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innairobi wrote:
At the heart of almost every fad in Kenya is a religious connection. If you want to generate hype in this country, all you do is start with church congregations and tie it to some spiritual benefit. The pyramid schemes rode on the prosperity gospel. Today it is all about the Jews eating quail in the wilderness. The propaganda spreads with evangelistic conviction. All reason goes out the window and the business becomes a cult albeit a very profitable one for the pioneers.


Baba's kinsmen have been eating quails since time immemorial.

"The longer the fuse the mightier the blast!"
Impunity
#51 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:44:50 AM
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banyamulenge wrote:
innairobi wrote:
At the heart of almost every fad in Kenya is a religious connection. If you want to generate hype in this country, all you do is start with church congregations and tie it to some spiritual benefit. The pyramid schemes rode on the prosperity gospel. Today it is all about the Jews eating quail in the wilderness. The propaganda spreads with evangelistic conviction. All reason goes out the window and the business becomes a cult albeit a very profitable one for the pioneers.


Baba's kinsmen have been eating quails since time immemorial.


And thats why they are sub-shooters! (sharp)
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#52 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:38:33 AM
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8M a month? when is the next pyramid starting??Will it be chameleons?

I need to be in it at the earliest
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#53 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:04:39 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
maka wrote:
Those who went in early have already made loads of cash....woe unto you if you try this now...


Those eggs were 20-30 bob before this fad.. the then farmers were unknown and just sufficient for their market.

then i think they decided its time to make a kill.
the trainers made their kill
those who sold chics made their kill
those who sold incubators made their kill
when the eggs were going for 100bob.. guys made super super profits..
That egg all costs factored can still be sold at 9 shillings like chicken eggs and the farmer would still turn a profit..

what mesmerises me is the marketing.. I think we have a good population suffering from all sorts of diseases and in need of hope, and the other group that likes landing, in need of energy...because all products marketed as a cure for some serious diseases like HIV and a booster for libido do really sell.

I am sure if we picked up something here as Wazua and marketed it as a cure for diseases and aphrodisiac we shall have ourselves a kill... there is a silent population ready for those products.


Tuanze kuuza mayai za doves.It cures aids.One fertilized egg at 250bob unfertilized at 249
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#54 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:07:07 AM
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tassia wrote:
I am farming quails myself and here are facts and my opinion from my experience. I did not start very long ago and even if the prices crashed today, I have nothing to worry about. But I do expect that prices will crash. However, I have noted that there is a lot of hype about how people will make millions including promising people that there is a large market for export in China which is not true because China itself is the largest exporter of Quail products with more than 17,000 tonnes annually . This is mostly coming from those who started early and would want to continue selling to those who are starting now at very high prices. I would advise those who are entering the farming now not to buy chicks or fertilized eggs at the high prices on the market. Negotiate for a fair price or wait for the prices to drop further. If you buy at the very high prices, you may still make profit but it will take long before you recover your investment. If you have an incubator, you are in a better position as you can make good money by selling the chicks even at a lower rate. But here is some important facts.
1.Guys have made crazy money,a few made upwards of Kshs 8 Million per month in the months of December and November. That is like 16 Million
2. Those who were already selling incubators have made a kill by making extra-ordinary profit per incubator sold.
3. From my experience, it cost's just Kshs 1 to feed a mature bird per day, even if an egg was to cost Kshs 5, you will still be doing better than chicken farming
4.If you buy a two week or three week chick, you may not even need to employ anyone to look for them. The biggest challege is in the first 1 week and specifically the first four days.
5.I have noted that there is indeed a market for the eggs locally and the demand for consumption will grow when breeders have had enough stock. Those who are already taking the eggs are actually the ones who are encouraging others to take because they swear that they have experienced significant improvement from when they started taking the eggs. I believe the current prices do not make sense if farmers expect to sell to consumers at those crazy prices. Unfortunately, some farmers are convinced that the prices will not come down. There is now a very high risk that someone will sell you eggs more than 7 days old for incubation and you may suffer loss because it is becoming more tough to sell even the fertilized eggs at those prices.
6. I believe Quail farming is here to stay


tassia wrote:
Gathige wrote:
This thread has been silent. Any new millionaire?


Hahaha.

When people make a million, they do not post it here. They keep to themselves. I like it when this business is criticized, it help to limit the people who are entering the business meaning that the prices will be more stable in the long run.

I have a feeling in the next few years, Quail will be as common as chicken and more homesteads will be keeping quails than chicken.


@tassia,So how much have you made so far
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Money Whisperer
#55 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:55:41 AM
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ati HIV and libido NKT! kwani what do these birds eat that free range chicken don't eat? we might as well eat rats
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#56 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:01:06 PM
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I think I should get into the business and shock the market by selling the eggs at 10 bob and let the volumes work for me. I will employ queue managers
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poundfoolish
#57 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:23:27 PM
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He who can stare at the crystal ball right shall have a windfall...

The agricultural sector in Kenya has happy to say.. a sustainable fad..
there was the broilers fad of mid 90's wen civil servants got their golden handshakes, then i think Aloe Vera came along, something else in early 2000's (i forget), then came the KPLC posts.. then came goat milk.. Before the current quails, rabbits had been tried.. but it seems the breeders do not understand the power of spreading hope..

Whats next.. i want to be ready...
poundfoolish
#58 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:26:36 PM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
I think I should get into the business and shock the market by selling the eggs at 10 bob and let the volumes work for me. I will employ queue managers


I like this idea. The top has already been skimmed proper. its now down to volumes.

if you can set it up in the next month then focus on selling them at half the current price. utakuwa mbele
eco
#59 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:27:53 PM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
ati HIV and libido NKT! kwani what do these birds eat that free range chicken don't eat? we might as well eat rats


Our Animal Nutritionists need to compare commercial quail eggs in the chain stores with those from wild birds. I hypothesize that eggs of quails fed on commercial feeds are no better than those of chicken fed on similar feeds.
Impunity
#60 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:12:39 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
He who can stare at the crystal ball right shall have a windfall...

The agricultural sector in Kenya has happy to say.. a sustainable fad..
there was the broilers fad of mid 90's wen civil servants got their golden handshakes, then i think Aloe Vera came along, something else in early 2000's (i forget), then came the KPLC posts.. then came goat milk.. Before the current quails, rabbits had been tried.. but it seems the breeders do not understand the power of spreading hope..

Whats next.. i want to be ready...


I think in the early 2000's it was greenhouse...

I know of someone who planted some Pine trees huko Maragua for KPLC posts, he rented some 2 acres and the trees were to take like 10 years to be mature and PAP! he would be a multi-millionaire...the trees are mature now and there is no market, in fact he chops the trees and sell as firewood to Jails and Boarding schools neaby.
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