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#41 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 3:24:39 PM
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Vallerrie wrote:
What? I hated 90's rap! It glorified violence too much especially those Westside Connection guys, Ice T, kina Dre,Snoop etc.
My best Hip Hop era was the early 2000s. When Kanye was still College Dropout Kanye, Xhibit was still doing 'X', when Nas had that beef with Jay, when Foxxy Brown was still a rapper....I could go on and on and on...I still have my copies of The Source and Vibe magazines from back in the day.
I remember how Aaliyah was in the cover of Vibe the very month she died. Such wasted talent.
Even the bubble gum rappers then were more tolerable, who can forget Lil' Zane, the 502 Boyz, the No Limit crew.
You just had to take me there....*sigh*


Post-2000, i feel is exactly the time when Mainstream hiphop lost its direction. Guys started to put out mediocre lpz.
Illmatic
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#42 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 3:28:06 PM
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iller wrote:
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iller wrote:
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@Buster, a good sample. You should listen to Nas' Illmatic n tell me your perspective of a classic album/record won't change


Huge Nas fan here. I really enjoy his lyricism. Untitled and Stillmatic are my favourite


Nice listen. The come back album esp Stillmatic, Reminds me of Ether & arguably one of the most celebrated hiphop beefs of our time!! Nas Vs Jay Z's Take Over/Supa Ugly..


Nas won lyrically but Jay Z won overral when Nas got signed to Def Jam. Jay Z was his President


Lol, very true. Nas won the battle Jay won the war.
Illmatic
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#43 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 4:16:36 PM
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Kanye....this particular one.

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#44 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 10:10:22 PM
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I'm a huge fan of hiphop, courtesy of Greg Morey (sp) of the then Metro FM, though not loyal to any particular artiste but instead pick the best from each one of them.

This has remained one of my favorites for the longest time:smile

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#45 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 1:44:38 AM
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butterflyke wrote:

what is the flipside? tabia? groupies ama ni nini?


Oh, my net is at it again.. man zuku should up their game anyway.....

Let me break it to you slowly... have you ever heard of the Rain man and why he is so reverenced by them? (referenced by the hip hop artists)
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#46 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:39:43 PM
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#47 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:31:58 PM
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Drobos fly wrote:
butterflyke wrote:

what is the flipside? tabia? groupies ama ni nini?


Oh, my net is at it again.. man zuku should up their game anyway.....

Let me break it to you slowly... have you ever heard of the Rain man and why he is so reverenced by them? (referenced by the hip hop artists)


fumbua mafumbo braza
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
Drobos fly
#48 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 12:56:58 AM
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butterflyke wrote:

fumbua mafumbo braza


Am not one to judge people's info by their background that's why am making reference to the guy's video with an open mind though we may not quite agree on the verses he fronts from his own belief system.

The questions he asks and the observations he brings to the foreground are reason enough to cause one to be extra cautious and wary in the light of hip hop the culture. Check it out with an open mind hopefully....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X30M9h8xqVo

Just use that as a reason to get you to patiently research more on the same, because one source isn't enough to convince someone of its truth. Analyze all your findings collectively and then see what seems to conspicuous common amongst them all. I already have my conclusion which doesn't mean you have to agree with it but just check that video out then go on a research spree...

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#49 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 1:07:38 AM
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Rain man means Satan, everyone from JayZ to Kanye to Weezy to Eminem to Rihanna have lyrics paying homage to Rain man. Rihanna's Umbrella, Weezy feat Fat Joe's make it rain plus numerous Jayz tracks all pay homage to Satan. It sounds crazy, but its the truth. So far, Nassir Jones, is the only one who hasn't sold his soul, thus he is not as popular, but he is still the greatest!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOURZ-yx4E
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#50 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 9:05:03 AM
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[quote=Nabwire]Rain man means Satan, everyone from JayZ to Kanye to Weezy to Eminem to Rihanna have lyrics paying homage to Rain man. Rihanna's Umbrella, Weezy feat Fat Joe's make it rain plus numerous Jayz tracks all pay homage to Satan. It sounds crazy, but its the truth. So far, Nassir Jones, is the only one who hasn't sold his soul, thus he is not as popular, but he is still the greatest!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOURZ-yx4E[/quote]
link please.
Nabwire
#51 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 10:05:40 AM
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There's a ton of stuff on youtube, you can start with 'the truth may scare you' series. As for Rain man, Rihanna's umbrella is the one that has the most symbolism like a black umbrella is the symbol used to show that the certain artist is under Satan's protection from the "rain" Watch that video, you will see the black umbrella all over it and then think about how many other videos have the artist standing under an umbrella. There's a ton, Fat Joe make it rain, Beyoncé get me bodied, Lil Wayne, Diddy, its just that unless you know there's symbolism, you'll just assume its creativity.
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#52 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 10:23:49 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
There's a ton of stuff on youtube, you can start with 'the truth may scare you' series. As for Rain man, Rihanna's umbrella is the one that has the most symbolism like a black umbrella is the symbol used to show that the certain artist is under Satan's protection from the "rain" Watch that video, you will see the black umbrella all over it and then think about how many other videos have the artist standing under an umbrella. There's a ton, Fat Joe make it rain, Beyoncé get me bodied, Lil Wayne, Diddy, its just that unless you know there's symbolism, you'll just assume its creativity.

might be the other way round - it's just that unless you know its creativity, you'll just assume there's symbolism.

if you search hard enough for the symbols you will see them everywhere, unless satan talks to you after you listen to the songs - just enjoy the music.
Nabwire
#53 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 10:30:17 AM
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I used to think like that till I did research and found all these artists do the same things like they all cover one eye, all have lots of symbolism in their videos which points to them being puppets who do as they are told. Watch Game's wouldn't get far, you'll understand that whatever you see on videos is decided for the artists, I don't know why its so hard for people to understand this. When something is done over and over, by different artists, its ceases to be coincidence. Anyways its your life, your choice, I choose not to listen to mainstream music anymore, I'd rather be safe than sorry. If you think this link is coincidence, more power to you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnYLzcjTCe0
masukuma
#54 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 10:42:24 AM
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maka wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
I like hip hop especially oldschool.. 90s hip hop.
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They had good music...

not all music was violent - I kinda liked this when I was in high school.
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#55 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:06:07 AM
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tycho wrote:
I don't listen to it so much, but I have been learning something about hip hop culture. I haven't had a conversation about it though.


First, let us start by categorizing this genre into 2 fragments: the Mainstream (the all-glorifying, highly washed up side of this kind of music) and the underground (the conscious-oriented subject-pointed side)..

Hiphop as a culture has always been about 4 things: MCeeing, breakdancing, Djeeing (scratching) & graffiti..


Hip, hop, history goes,
Leaving the 'whimps' in a daze
But when I spit on my mic, the gory dark lections of I, twirl and whirl, chasing I of the tribe of 'dah.
Old folks with sagging skins rising a demons, white claws stalking like shadows in the deep prison valley of 'bra. Kibira kiberiti kazi yako kujiwasha. Say yo!

Hip, hop, yo,
Tribe of the 'dah, going dah dah dah dah
Hip, hop, yo! Go dah dah dah dah!
Skip up yo, dah dah dah dah dah dah dah!

Yo, queens n kings rolling in shit and coprophobic frenzy living paradox wailing, trying to imitate the ants in the good books. Pseudo revolution in a pleasant mask frolicking in the 'chuoms' and riding in a benz, beckoning to the whimps with the middle finger. Yo, whimp dies chasing Mr. Jones, impaled by the finger, trying out to figure lyrics rolling from a sword.

Yo!



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#56 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:12:02 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
There's a ton of stuff on youtube, you can start with 'the truth may scare you' series. As for Rain man, Rihanna's umbrella is the one that has the most symbolism like a black umbrella is the symbol used to show that the certain artist is under Satan's protection from the "rain" Watch that video, you will see the black umbrella all over it and then think about how many other videos have the artist standing under an umbrella. There's a ton, Fat Joe make it rain, Beyoncé get me bodied, Lil Wayne, Diddy, its just that unless you know there's symbolism, you'll just assume its creativity.


Those are not Hiphop artists. Crank/pop music is not Hiphop. Otherwse there are alot of conspiracy theories revolving around any&every popular art/person/culture et al.
Listen to good music n just enjoy. Simple.
Illmatic
Nabwire
#57 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:16:19 AM
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I don't have time to look for specific hip hop artists, believe me its out there. Unless you're saying JayZ is not hip hop, coz he's neck deep into that stuff with Kanye. Like I said, Nas is the only one not into that stuff at the moment.
iller
#58 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:53:38 AM
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For those who like hip hop, you might want to check out the rap battle below. listen to the punchlines, word play and schemes used by the battle artists

Wainadi
#59 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:56:12 AM
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I love Lupe fiasco, he has remained an underground artist over 10 years down the line.
Its all good.
nakujua
#60 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:56:37 AM
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Back when the top ladies considered being fully covered the in thing. Imagine rihana ama mrs jayz dressed hivi when performing.

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