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Value NSE Stocks next 10 years
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#21 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 8:40:38 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
guru267 wrote:
For me...

1. Housing finance (assuming a P/E ratio of 10 and a shs6 Billion PAT in 2023)

2. Kenya re (assuming a P/E ratio of 10 and a PAT of shs12 Billion in 2023)

3. Co op (assuming a P/E ratio of 15 and a PAT of shs45 Billion in 2023)

4. Bamburi (assuming a P/E ratio of 15 and a PAT of shs55 Billion in 2023)

If the market P/E ratios at the time are through the roof the better! smile

I challenge other wazuans to back their 10 bagger picks with numbers!


Numbers - We're talking about 10years from now.Thats the domain of trends and themes.
guru267
#22 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 8:53:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
symbols wrote:
guru267 wrote:
For me...

1. Housing finance (assuming a P/E ratio of 10 and a shs6 Billion PAT in 2023)

2. Kenya re (assuming a P/E ratio of 10 and a PAT of shs12 Billion in 2023)

3. Co op (assuming a P/E ratio of 15 and a PAT of shs45 Billion in 2023)

4. Bamburi (assuming a P/E ratio of 15 and a PAT of shs55 Billion in 2023)

If the market P/E ratios at the time are through the roof the better! smile

I challenge other wazuans to back their 10 bagger picks with numbers!


Numbers - We're talking about 10years from now.Thats the domain of trends and themes.


All these are just educated assumptions... But anything can happen!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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#23 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 8:54:36 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
guru267 wrote:
symbols wrote:
guru267 wrote:
For me...

1. Housing finance (assuming a P/E ratio of 10 and a shs6 Billion PAT in 2023)

2. Kenya re (assuming a P/E ratio of 10 and a PAT of shs12 Billion in 2023)

3. Co op (assuming a P/E ratio of 15 and a PAT of shs45 Billion in 2023)

4. Bamburi (assuming a P/E ratio of 15 and a PAT of shs55 Billion in 2023)

If the market P/E ratios at the time are through the roof the better! smile

I challenge other wazuans to back their 10 bagger picks with numbers!


Numbers - We're talking about 10years from now.Thats the domain of trends and themes.


All these are just educated assumptions... But anything can happen!


Can't argue with that.
jerry
#24 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 9:14:48 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/29/2006
Posts: 2,570
Why have I not received my HF dividends after closing books almost 3 months ago?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
young
#25 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 9:43:12 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2007
Posts: 2,075
Location: Lagos, Nigeria
@All

Please be informed that attending 1000%
gain in value in 10 years is not rocket science. What I mean is that it is
not as difficult as you think.

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN NSE.
I bought 1,000 shares of KCB in my first debut in
July 2004 at 45 bob per share ie 45,000 bob (Ex commissions)
KCB declared a loss in FY 2013 so her shares were
at the lowest ebb.
KCB rose to 180 in 2007 and did a 10 for 1 split.
That means my initial 1,000 shares became 10,000
and my cost price became 4.5 bob instead of 45 bob.
Now my 10,000 units of KCB is 44.25 bob per share ie approaching
45 bob in 9 years . When this happens ( I think very soon)
my 45,000 bob of shares will be worth 450,000 bob
the ALMIGHTY 1,000%. This does not include numerious
dividends over the years. My dividend per share in 2005 was 50 cents
now it is close to 2 bob.


The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
young
#26 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 9:58:07 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2007
Posts: 2,075
Location: Lagos, Nigeria
In general if average growth rate in the value of your
stock is 27% a year you can attain 1000%
in ten years.

Lets us say Mzee buys 1000 units of shares
at 1 bob. Lets see the extrapolation at 27% over 10 years

Year 1 1000x1.27 = 1270
year 2. 1270x 1.27 =1612.9
year 3. 1612.9x1.27=2048.38
year 4. 2048.38x1.27=2601.45
year 5. 2601.45x1.27= 3303.83
year 6. 3304.83x1.27= 4195.87
year 7. 4195.87x1.27= 5328.76
year 8. 5328.76x1.27= 6767.52
year 9. 6767.52x1.27= 8594.75
year 10. 8594.75x1.27=10915.33

The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
Mastermind
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:01:54 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/25/2012
Posts: 1,624
Location: Langley
dunkang wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
dunkang wrote:
KPLC

Especially now that they have been told to put their house in order (i.e. be efficient) and there is no viable alternative to KPLC, atleast for the next 20 years!

Do you see how the mombasa port has improved after the sack warnings?

The future of KPLC is uncertain especially after Mps voted for that motion which seeks to liberalise power distribution in the country. I will pick KenGen over KPLC in the energy sector.

So you think starting a power distribution company is as easy as starting a mobile telco?

With the sensitivity of raising electricity bills, do you think any investor would dare start a KPLC alternative?

Just forget about competition in power distribution!

Its possible if they change the role of Kenya power from transmission and distribution of electricity to providing infrastracture to power distributing companies.
Btw the bill is at what stage?
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
dunkang
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:28:29 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/2/2011
Posts: 4,824
Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
Mastermind wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
dunkang wrote:
KPLC

Especially now that they have been told to put their house in order (i.e. be efficient) and there is no viable alternative to KPLC, atleast for the next 20 years!

Do you see how the mombasa port has improved after the sack warnings?

The future of KPLC is uncertain especially after Mps voted for that motion which seeks to liberalise power distribution in the country. I will pick KenGen over KPLC in the energy sector.

So you think starting a power distribution company is as easy as starting a mobile telco?

With the sensitivity of raising electricity bills, do you think any investor would dare start a KPLC alternative?

Just forget about competition in power distribution!

Its possible if they change the role of Kenya power from transmission and distribution of electricity to providing infrastracture to power distributing companies.
Btw the bill is at what stage?

Boss, ever heard of KETRACO
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Mastermind
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:07:20 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/25/2012
Posts: 1,624
Location: Langley
dunkang wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
dunkang wrote:
KPLC

Especially now that they have been told to put their house in order (i.e. be efficient) and there is no viable alternative to KPLC, atleast for the next 20 years!

Do you see how the mombasa port has improved after the sack warnings?

The future of KPLC is uncertain especially after Mps voted for that motion which seeks to liberalise power distribution in the country. I will pick KenGen over KPLC in the energy sector.

So you think starting a power distribution company is as easy as starting a mobile telco?

With the sensitivity of raising electricity bills, do you think any investor would dare start a KPLC alternative?

Just forget about competition in power distribution!

Its possible if they change the role of Kenya power from transmission and distribution of electricity to providing infrastracture to power distributing companies.
Btw the bill is at what stage?

Boss, ever heard of KETRACO

Ofcourse... NOTE: Ketraco is 100% owned by Gok.
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
young
#30 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 4:12:00 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2007
Posts: 2,075
Location: Lagos, Nigeria
young wrote:
@All

Please be informed that attending 1000%
gain in value in 10 years is not rocket science. What I mean is that it is
not as difficult as you think.

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN NSE.
I bought 1,000 shares of KCB in my first debut in
July 2004 at 45 bob per share ie 45,000 bob (Ex commissions)
KCB declared a loss in FY 2013 so her shares were
at the lowest ebb.
KCB rose to 180 in 2007 and did a 10 for 1 split.
That means my initial 1,000 shares became 10,000
and my cost price became 4.5 bob instead of 45 bob.
Now my 10,000 units of KCB is 44.25 bob per share ie approaching
45 bob in 9 years . When this happens ( I think very soon)
my 45,000 bob of shares will be worth 450,000 bob
the ALMIGHTY 1,000%. This does not include numerious
dividends over the years. My dividend per share in 2005 was 50 cents
now it is close to 2 bob.





U la la KCB has printed 45.00 bob !!!
My first investment in KCB in 2004 has returned
10 times (1000%) in 9 years 2004 - 2013
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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