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whats pushing SCOM
mukiha
#41 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 9:35:00 AM
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@sheep....with an EPS of 0.27,a P/E of 20 will represent a price of Sh5.40.....something that many people are expecting this week

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sheep
#42 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 9:43:00 AM
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that is ma sell price
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
sparkly
#43 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 10:28:00 AM
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Kenyans who bought IPO,using bank loans and sold at 2.85 must be banging their heads on the wall.

Someone please start a VCT for investors!
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VituVingiSana
#44 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 10:48:00 AM
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well... selling at 2.85 was probably due to pressure from banks coz of loans...

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mwanahisa
#45 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 10:56:00 AM
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Its certainly been a great run for SCOM in the last few weeks. I however expect the price run to be checked soon,probably at the Kshs 5.10-5.50 level and . At this price range,it will be trading at a forward PE of 15-16 times. Historical PE would be around or above 20 and a dividend yield of less then 2%. Given the fairly low growth in profitability over the last 2-3 years,it would be a stretch to justify anything above these prices.

Remember,the main buyers of the stock have been International Investors who have a huge horrizon of shares to invest in around the world. They will therefore compare SCOM with such telecom companies such as MTN of South Africa which covers two continents and has had stellar growth in turnover and profits and currently trades at a PE of 13.44 (TTM). Or others such as Orascom of Egypt - PE of 10.46,China Mobile PE of 12.03 and Bharti Airtel from India - trading at a PE of 13.3. All of these telecom companies are in growth markets with relatively low political risk (excepting MTN with its exposure in Iran). So as Mukiha surmises,it may be time to take some profits off the table,especially if you are in it for the short term.

DISCLAIMER - I do not hold any Safcom shares having sold all of my IPO shares in the first week of trading.



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the deal
#46 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 11:03:00 AM
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I came in at 2.80,today its 4.85...ofcourse i had 2 push aside all the crap this stock was getting the media cause i believed in it...viva safcom.

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#47 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 5:53:00 PM
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I bought at IPO and it looks like at long last I might be getting my head out of the sand.

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#48 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2009 6:32:00 PM
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I can see 5/- will be a huge resistance point... as sellers will try to exit in droves... sort of when KQ hit 11-12... stayed there for months until the 'excess' supply was taken up...

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#49 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:47:00 AM
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foreign buys yesterday were worth ksh 162M,foreign sales worth ksh 150M.
Mainat
#50 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:24:00 AM
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Tree shake level. Expect lots of selling either side of Ksh5.00

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mukiha
#51 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:29:00 AM
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Supply [8.8m] has overtaken demand [6.6m] and the price has flattened at sh4.70. Will it cross the sh5 barrier this week,really?

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mtaalam
#52 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:49:00 AM
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It will close the week at 4.60

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mukiha
#53 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:01:00 AM
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I think it will be more like sh4.75 by Friday

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VituVingiSana
#54 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:08:00 AM
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Or a large/huge buyer is waiting for folks to show their hand... and when shares are on offer... sweep in & buy them up... easier than buying a few shares a day...

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Hi-Lo
#55 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:33:00 AM
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...by the way did Vodafone manage to raise their stake to 51%? If I held this share I'd sell to no one except them...

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#56 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:09:00 AM
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It will may not cross the 5.00 psychological mark by Friday,but anything around 4.90 will be a good weekend.Am optimistic for 5.15.....

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mukiha
#57 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:53:00 PM
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Just sent in my firs sell order at 5.20,not expecting execution this week,but next week; may be

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Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
VituVingiSana
#58 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:14:00 PM
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Well... as someone asked... what of Vodafone?

Vodafone Kenya is now 100% owned by Vodafone PLC who bought the remainder of mobitelea's shares. These are the shares stolen by moi,biwott & cronies. Maybe even people in the current GoK got a slice. I am certain coz they said nothing about the theft.

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