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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:The way, is the day to day working of your faith.
The truth is that the way leads to the Kingdom of completeness and pleasure and worship.
The life is the being in that Kingdom. The speech, the laughter, hahaha! The 'Civilization'. Is everyone on a path to completeness? Individually and collectively. All have always been free to choose what they want. Because they know what is good and evil. Those who claim ignorance are definitely liars, and the lazy.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:The way, is the day to day working of your faith.
The truth is that the way leads to the Kingdom of completeness and pleasure and worship.
The life is the being in that Kingdom. The speech, the laughter, hahaha! The 'Civilization'. Is everyone on a path to completeness? Individually and collectively. All have always been free to choose what they want. Because they know what is good and evil. Those who claim ignorance are definitely liars, and the lazy. How do they know? Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:I think I finally get it:) I should learn to be more silent.Simply,what I think I know or understand could just be another illusion/fantasy and can be fully based on faith. How can the 'I', be 'silent'? Is the 'I' real then? What about the 'faith'? Think of the 'dream problem'. Is it the man who is dreaming of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreaming of the man? To me, the man is the butterfly. Nani ametajajina yangu kwa ndoto?  Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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If one is ignorant but diligent, he will ask. And so shall he receive!
To ask, is to work your faith. So is to seek, and to knock!
Does God ask anything else from the Pilgrim except the cross, of loving your brother as thy self?
This, is why all religions are one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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butterflyke wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:I think I finally get it:) I should learn to be more silent.Simply,what I think I know or understand could just be another illusion/fantasy and can be fully based on faith. How can the 'I', be 'silent'? Is the 'I' real then? What about the 'faith'? Think of the 'dream problem'. Is it the man who is dreaming of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreaming of the man? To me, the man is the butterfly. Nani ametajajina yangu kwa ndoto? Is the man dreaming of the butterfly or is the butterfly dreaming of the man?  Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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butterflyke wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:I think I finally get it:) I should learn to be more silent.Simply,what I think I know or understand could just be another illusion/fantasy and can be fully based on faith. How can the 'I', be 'silent'? Is the 'I' real then? What about the 'faith'? Think of the 'dream problem'. Is it the man who is dreaming of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreaming of the man? To me, the man is the butterfly. Nani ametajajina yangu kwa ndoto? 'I'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:If one is ignorant but diligent, he will ask. And so shall he receive!
To ask, is to work your faith. So is to seek, and to knock!
Does God ask anything else from the Pilgrim except the cross, of loving your brother as thy self?
This, is why all religions are one.
 Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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blueman wrote:U know the creator must feel really bad when u call His creation ILLUSION!
Can you imagine a car you design and build - a Merc Benz for example, calling itself an amorphous assemblage of fiber, metal, plastic,rubber and wood? instead of doing what its supposed to do?
A better question to tackle in life is: What's the purpose of my existence? What good can I do to further the work of my creator? Yes. How do you relate with your Creator?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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blueman wrote:U know the creator must feel really bad when u call His creation ILLUSION!
Can you imagine a car you design and build - a Merc Benz for example, calling itself an amorphous assemblage of fiber, metal, plastic,rubber and wood? instead of doing what its supposed to do?
A better question to tackle in life is: What's the purpose of my existence? What good can I do to further the work of my creator? To me illusion is part of reality. The illusion I am concerned about is all in the mind. I can try to answer those questions,but then I could just be following my own illusions. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:Faith is action. @Tycho: you still believe I 'take this illusion business too far?" Do you? Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Illusions are the guides to knowledge and completeness.
I love them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:Illusions are the guides to knowledge and completeness.
I love them. I think tycho you've seen my point. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Illusions are the guides to knowledge and completeness.
I love them. I think tycho you've seen my point. Yes. I have. The more illusions I meet, the more clearly I see.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Illusions are the guides to knowledge and completeness.
I love them. I think tycho you've seen my point. Yes. I have. The more illusions I meet, the more clearly I see. Darkness is the greatest illusion. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Illusions are the guides to knowledge and completeness.
I love them. I think tycho you've seen my point. Yes. I have. The more illusions I meet, the more clearly I see. Darkness is the greatest illusion. Indeed. Kabalists insist that the light is always constant, what is lacking is our capacity to see. A capacity that increases with the working of faith.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Illusions are the guides to knowledge and completeness.
I love them. I think tycho you've seen my point. Yes. I have. The more illusions I meet, the more clearly I see. Darkness is the greatest illusion. Indeed. Kabalists insist that the light is always constant, what is lacking is our capacity to see. A capacity that increases with the working of faith. I agree.To see the light you have to believe it is there.Such a funny twist. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Illusions are the guides to knowledge and completeness.
I love them. I think tycho you've seen my point. Yes. I have. The more illusions I meet, the more clearly I see. Darkness is the greatest illusion. Indeed. Kabalists insist that the light is always constant, what is lacking is our capacity to see. A capacity that increases with the working of faith. I agree.To see the light you have to believe it is there.Such a funny twist. Makes life so sweet!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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@Ngong - Which part? Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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[/quote] Yes. All isn't illusion.[/quote] @Tycho: you may have answered this already. But please indulge me. What is NOT illusion? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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