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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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tycho wrote:@Kusadikika was very mistaken to think I can be dealt with like Socrates! I am not a philosopher!
I am a warrior! Do you think freedom is something I can let go?
I have fought up to where I am, and now that immortality is here you want to run into your middle class burrows!
I am the Man God!
Sitakutusi! Truth for truth, evidence for evidence, proof for proof!
Let us then open the books of Judgment!
Let the weighing scales be brought! Summon your wisdom!  I like that.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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I don't know if i believe this but i thought it was interesting- Quote:Did you exist before you were born?
Many religions believe in the immortality of the soul and in an afterlife. If we were to assume that the soul is immortal, couldn't it also be possible that the soul existed before our birth?
These are questions which we hope to shed some light on through the many cases described on this website.
A great deal has been written and reported about the Near Death Experience (NDE). Near Death Experiences are reported by people who have experienced death for a short period of time and been revived. These people often report experiencing an existence on a spiritual plane, often meeting deceased relatives and beings of light.
A much rarer experience is the Pre-Birth Experience (PBE). People with Pre-Birth Experiences recall existing in a spiritual plane before their births here on earth. They often describe a spiritual existence, that is very similar to the existence reported in Near Death Experiences. Not only do people with a Pre-Birth Experience describe a spiritual pre-existence, but some also remember choosing their parents and the type of challenges they will face here on earth. Some people who have experienced a Near Death Experience, recall seeing souls assembled together, waiting to be born here on http://www.prebirthexperience.com/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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And all that shall rule with me, shall live forever! Immortality!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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InnovateGuy wrote: Now that death is the destiny for all mortals, why do we live?
painful and cruel this death is. This past wed,my favorite Aunt,attended an evening bible class as usual.Her one and only daughter was leading worship.After giving her offering she returned back to her seat,stretched out and collapsed.. She stood up asking 'what hapnd?' she's told that she had just passed out so they continue singing.Next min she collapsed again,was rushed to hospital and pronounced dead on arrival!!She died in God's presence! one woman who served God with all her heart. Her daughter (my cuz)is inconsolable. I am a christian but I feel bad. No warnings no signs,you just drop dead!Aren't there enough bad people to kill? "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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essyk wrote:InnovateGuy wrote: Now that death is the destiny for all mortals, why do we live?
painful and cruel this death is. This past wed,my favorite Aunt,attended an evening bible class as usual.Her one and only daughter was leading worship.After giving her offering she returned back to her seat,stretched out and collapsed.. She stood up asking 'what hapnd?' she's told that she had just passed out so they continue singing.Next min she collapsed again,was rushed to hospital and pronounced dead on arrival!!She died in God's presence! one woman who served God with all her heart. Her daughter (my cuz)is inconsolable. I am a christian but I feel bad. No warnings no signs,you just drop dead!Aren't there enough bad people to kill? Very sad indeed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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josiah33 wrote:essyk wrote:InnovateGuy wrote: Now that death is the destiny for all mortals, why do we live?
painful and cruel this death is. This past wed,my favorite Aunt,attended an evening bible class as usual.Her one and only daughter was leading worship.After giving her offering she returned back to her seat,stretched out and collapsed.. She stood up asking 'what hapnd?' she's told that she had just passed out so they continue singing.Next min she collapsed again,was rushed to hospital and pronounced dead on arrival!!She died in God's presence! one woman who served God with all her heart. Her daughter (my cuz)is inconsolable. I am a christian but I feel bad. No warnings no signs,you just drop dead!Aren't there enough bad people to kill? Very sad indeed. Still there's reason to be bold! For we know that those who have walked with God, shall not know death! It has never been true that Man must die! Open the books and show that Man was meant for death!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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Impunity wrote:
Living is part of the journey to spiritual world.
Does the spiritual world have cars, nice houses, friends, and above all, equality, fairness and justice? Why don't we live forever? Money Whisperer wrote:we live ndio tuende machot na Mwende What's the point of living if you'll have the Mwende's, and leave them here without having them all? 2012 wrote:Life is what you do in between birth and death. It is the longest thing you'll ever experience so why not enjoy it?
Death is the most mysterious and interesting thing in the world. It's the only equalizer of men yet it is the one thing you should deal the least on if you're wise.
So, are we born to die? Yes if your focus is on death. No if your focus is on life. Interesting points right there. What's the purpose of death? Teach other mortals a lesson? Impunity wrote:
Its written in the Biblos that which you dont know leave it God.
Nice rejoinder. But it doesn't satisfy my curiosity. tycho wrote:@Innovate, we live to find the path to immortality.
Does this mean that you will not die? josiah33 wrote:Maybe tales of pre-birth experiences will answer your question if at all you can believe that the stories of people having recollections of a life before conception and birth are true. I doubt these stories. I think they are all lies. How come not everyone experiences these fairy tales? Kwanza hyo eti I chose my parents. Seriously? essyk wrote: Painful and cruel this death is.
This past wed,my favorite Aunt,attended an evening bible class as usual.Her one and only daughter was leading worship.After giving her offering she returned back to her seat,stretched out and collapsed.. She stood up asking 'what hapnd?' she's told that she had just passed out so they continue singing.Next min she collapsed again,was rushed to hospital and pronounced dead on arrival!!She died in God's presence! one woman who served God with all her heart. Her daughter (my cuz)is inconsolable. I am a christian but I feel bad. No warnings no signs,you just drop dead!Aren't there enough bad people to kill?
Pole sana. @ Tycho. What’s your definition of death? Seems you are reading from a different script. Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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@essyk - Sorry for your loss. There goes my attempt to quit.People,me and tycho are not the same person.We have two different speech patterns.Can't you tell.But I'm curious why he intimidates some wazuans. @Annti_Christy - Describe or define what a "psycho" is and I assure and I'm pretty sure you might end up learning something new from it. @tycho - Don't bring Socrates in this.I don't even know what to say.I'm still waiting for him to answer me on what a Socratic question is? Death. I like death.It brings fear in all the hearts of men. But people fear eternity more.It's full of the unknown and if you can't appreciate life eternity seems to be torture.In fact,life is torture.To me death is loss of life and that being said,there are people who are alive but are lifeless. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Innovate, Death is the cessation of being.
It is not imperative that Man dies. Man only Kills himself with wickedness and ignorance.
If God didn't kill Cain, why should he kill anyone?
And hence, the moments we are alive we must rid ourselves of wickedness and ignorance of the Laws of the universe!
This is the path to immortality.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:@Innovate, Death is the cessation of being.
It is not imperative that Man dies. Man only Kills himself with wickedness and ignorance.
If God didn't kill Cain, why should he kill anyone?
And hence, the moments we are alive we must rid ourselves of wickedness and ignorance of the Laws of the universe!
This is the path to immortality. You can't fight the truth and someone once said I am the way the truth and the life.The way to life is paved by truth. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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