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tmatekwa
#21 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:21:00 AM
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@ kigee. The rate of depreciation on psv's is very high. Ie 30.% pa. The matter is worsened by bad roads especially in western and nyanza. To compensate,new vehicles charge higher fares. Bright proprietors then discard the units before the cost of maintenance becomes too un economical. The next owner of the used unit will spend a lot of time and money maintaining the junk. If he does not have deeper pockets he gets grounded. This is why citi hopper is not keen to service routes with rough roads.

Osama bin Laden
mukiha
#22 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:22:00 AM
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Agreed,@tmatekwa,they say you should sell the matatu after three years - and by that time you get back about one third of what what you paid for it.

This is the cost that many people in the business don't anticipate. As a result,they milk their matatus dry by investing in dormant plots of land etc. Three years down the road,they need to buy a new vehicle and they can't raise the necessary funds...especially after factoring inflation.

By the way,have you noticed that all matatus with sh300k worth of a music system are owned by new comers? And after a short while,the system breaks down [due to abuse] and there is no money to repair/replace it?
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Orbit
#23 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:54:00 PM
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@tmatekwa,mukiha

Sorry for being a pain but do you think installing the fleet management system in matatus can improve tracking and increase profitability in any way i.e. would this avoid lies such as 'tulishikwa na tukawekwa na polisi kwa masaa sita leo' or 'tulishinda garage'

How do you do the tracking yourselves?
mukiha
#24 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:06:00 PM
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@Orbit:

I doubt whether a fleet management system (presumably,GPS) would improve profitability - i.e. return on capital employed.

Find out the cost and then ask yourself whether the additional profit earned (not the extra sales!) are justifiable.

Then also ask yourself why Citi Hppa,DoubleM and KBS don't use the system...
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Orbit
#25 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:17:00 PM
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Well,this GPS fleet management system is a fairly new idea and not many operators know about it or have tried yet. The initial one-off cost is about 30k, while the monthly charge is about 3k (I stand to be corrected on cost).

I still feel it can work wonders,especially for small investors with 8-5 jobo and cannot afford to employ full time managers.

As for City Hoppa,KBS,etc,these have professional managers who track and manage the vehicles constantly,hence no need for GPS
tmatekwa
#26 Posted : Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:01:00 PM
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Stoic fleet management? Yes. It will reduce garage time cheating,operating on unlicenced routes,miss use of vehicle for personal matters,falsified trips and falsified arrests. However the device is not a cure all on its own. You must have one authorised garage for repairs,an authorised petrol station with records of fuel consumption,a very minimum wage since they will help themselves to some of your money anyway,and a daily target. Above all calculate some goodwill between you and your employees. This in itself promotes a sense of belonging,self esteem and job security hence reducing large scale diversion of revenues. However the cost of the gprs system does not make economical sense to single unit owners.

Osama bin Laden
slimboss
#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:53:00 AM
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hi guys,

i am also interested in venturing into this bsn and what i'd like to know the best insuarance company for matatus and their rates and the taxes involed with this business. i also would like to know if you buy a new mat how often is it advisable for it to be serviced. also i am thinking of attaching mine to a sacco what is your opinion and what should i know about these saccos and which do you reccommend. with respect tho the buses which is the best company to attach ones bus to ( citi hopper,kbs or express connections). thanks.

slimboss
Red Eyes
#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:48:00 PM
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Hi My friend;

Instead of waiting for over six months for your mat to be build,lets talk on a deal of a 51 seater (New),only operated for six months in Nairobi under citi hopper.


Red eyes
Orbit
#29 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:05:00 PM
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Red Eyes,



Why are you are planning to dispose your new 51 Seater yet you know we all need to make coins elsewhere so we can then invest in the good old NSE.



I request that you share your experience(s) in that biz, esp to help those who want to get into it.


steveb
#30 Posted : Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:43:00 AM
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Guys,what do you know about Mololine? I'm made to understand theft chances are slim,since all passengers are issued receipts plus as the owner you know exactly how many trips your mat has made to Nairobi - Nakuru vice-versa. Any info on this is highly appreciated.
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