no no do not change the subject, answer my questions first before we go to other copy paste stuff... Remember what I said before:

The question I wanted to ask is, Do Muslim preachers perform miracles, or is their religion a dead one, full of empty words?


But if you cannot use your own understanding, and you cannot ask or answer something honesty without going to those sites, then it cannot be a good discussion.

what? are you trying to limit my thinking capacity?


You see if a person is genuine and learns something new, he will say, oh yes, I see this or I didn't know that.
But if that person is a liar, he'll say "what about this one, what about that one" and you end up going round is cycles.


ohhh......common, that is not the KORAN OR THE BIBLE you are quoting....has your opinions become scripture?

COMMON....DO YOU HAVE THE POWER TO CHASE AWAY DEMONS?

There is this Muslim mzee I met in the course of my spiritual journey. At that time I had come to full acceptance of the 'idea' that I was indeed, the son of God, and by extension I was the Man God.
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So the mzee asked for my 'Christian' name. I gave it to him.

'You realize that Allah cannot reproduce like a Man?' He asked. The question took me by surprise. How could one consider God's sonship from that dimension?

'You must declare that Jesus was not and is not the son of God'.

But who was I? This mzee wanted me to surrender myself completely!

'Then you'll become fresh! Like a child!'

That's how I found my clutch straw.

'Whose child?' I asked.

Casting evil spirits is something done in many cultures. If Muslims had an empire do you honestly believe that they had no way of 'casting evil spirits'?

Legio Maria, Akorino, and all indigenous religions have this 'facility' yet looking at them I realize that their claims are more of chest thumping and ostracizing 'misfits'.

But just recently, the camel broke it's back when I saw some 'evangelicals' trying to drive evil spirits from a girl and claiming that her kin were to be blamed for her woes.

I was left with the impression that it was the pastor who was injecting evil spirits into the girl.

But where there is light, there is a sound mind and power to heal through speech. And it doesn't have to be incantations, a simple conversation will always do.

So many words to ask a simple question with a simple answer. Jesus took the form of man (you and me). When on earth He was not God, but man (you and me). It is why He suffered, was tempted, went through all the motions, to set an example for us.. and more mercifully, to die for our sins, that we (you and me) may not have to die but find salvation.

Pray for the gift of the Holy Spirit, that you may get to understand, that you may get wisdom, for if you cannot create a brain cell in your own head.. then you might be an idiot to think you can use the same brain cells to comprehend. Yes, I said it!

Alph Doti, those are nice questions. I hope you dont mind if I summarize my answer by picking on just a couple of verses.

You have made the best case, proving He is God by these two verses. I will tell you why there is folly in your post or shall I call it good tidings?

If you read further down that Isaiah 11, you will read about things you would have rather kept hidden.

Read about Him who after the spirit of the lord has rested on Him smites the earth with the rod of his mouth, whose breath of His lips slay the wicked after which the wolf dwells with the lamb and the lion eat straw like an ox and all sorts of nice things.

Read all about that and wonder how He cannot be God.

apostle John clearly said that any spirit that does not recognize that Jesus is the son of God who came in the flesh, died on the cross and resurrected from the dead isa spirit of the antichrist

You have not quoted the verse correctly. Look for the verse and please says the real words without adding your own.

But it is something close to that
I'm glad to tell you that a Muslim knows about Jesus.

He's mentioned in the Quran many times.
For Example:
"We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear signs and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit" (Quran 2:87)
"O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary..." (Quran 3:45)
"...Christ Jesus the son of Mary was an apostle of god..." (Quran 4:171)
"...And in their foot steps we sent Jesus the son of Mary..." (Quran 5:46)
"And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the ranks of the righteous." (Quran 6:85)

He is given Titles too
Besides being mentioned by name in many places in the Quran, he is also addressed with respect as:
- Ibn Maryam, meaning "The son of Mary";
- and as the Maseeh (in Hebrew it is the Messiah), which is translated as "Christ".
- He is also known as Abdullah, "The servant of Allah";
- and as Rasul u Allah, the messenger of Allah.

Other titles
- He is spoken of as "The Word of God",
- as "The Spirit of God",
- as a "Sign of God",
- and numerous other titles of honour over many different chapters

So do you believe now that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) loved Jesus (pbuh) and taught people about Jesus (pbuh)?
He did not mentioned his mother, he did not mention his wives, but he mentioned Mary mother of Jesus (pbuh)!!!

http://mukto-mona.net/Articles/kasem/quran_origin.htm
It is an absolute fact that Muhammad was born of pagan parents. His father, Abdullah and his mother, Amina were both pagans and they used to worship many idols. His entire childhood (probably up to his teen) was spent in paganism. To day, many Muslims will find it extremely hard to digest this fact. However, Muhammad’s pagan origin is disclosed by Hisham ibn al-Kalbi. On page 17 of his important work, Kitab al-Asnam (The Book of Idols) he writes (Hisham al-Kalbi, Kitab al-Asnam, p.17):



‘We have been told that the Apostle of God once mentioned al-Uzza saying, “I have offered a white sheep to al-‘Uzza, while I was a follower of the religion of my people.” ‘



In the statement above Muhammad clearly admits his past adherence to paganism—the then religion of the Quraysh.



Initially, Muhammad even eulogized the important gods (or idols) of the pagans by agreeing with the Quraysh—at some point that these gods were the intercessors of Allah. On the same page Hisham ibn al-Kalbi writes:



The Quraysh were wont to circumambulate the Ka’bah and say:



By Allat and al-‘Uzza,

And Manah, the third idol besides.

Verily they are the most exalted females

Whose intercession is to be sought.



These were also called “the Daughters of Allah,” and were supposed to intercede before God. When the Apostle of God was sent god revealed unto him [concerning them] the following:



053.019 Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,
053.020 And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

053.021 What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?
053.022 Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

053.023 These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! (Hisham ibn al-Kalbi, ‘Kitab al-Asnam,’ p.17)



When Muhammad became an adult and started to attend the annual assembly of poets at Ukaz he was deeply impressed and moved by the thoughts, eloquence, sentiment, freethinking and humanism expounded by many of those poets. He started questioning the idol-worshipping and began to start preaching a new concept of one God, the creator—similar to the concepts of the Jews and the Christians of that time. Nonetheless, he was confused as to which God ought to be his God. Allah, a deity (a moon god--that is why the symbols placed at every mosque is a crescent moon) at that time, was the supreme God of the pagans. Their only fault was that besides Allah, they used to worship as the intercessors for Allah, the supreme other smaller gods/goddesses like: Hubal, Al-lat, Al-Uzza, Manat…etc. So, in the beginning of his new concept of an almighty creator Allah was out of his mind. Besides, at that time the magicians, the soothsayers, the sorcerers, and even the Satan worshippers used to vow by Allah. Thus, Muhammad found it utterly despicable to make Allah his God (ilah).



During those pagan days the people of Yemen used to worship another deity whose name was Ar-Rahman. Muhammad, for a while, adopted the name Ar-Rahman for God in place of Allah. Coincidentally, Ar-Rahman was also the Jewish word Rahmana which was a name for God in the Talmudic period (Noldeke: The Koran, The Origins of the Koran, p.53). Muhammad cleverly thought that by using the word Ar-Rahman he ought to be able to attract to his new ‘religion’, the Jews as well as some pagans.



However, when he declared himself to be the messenger of Ar-Rahman, the Meccans, too, were at a loss and confused. The Meccans did not know of any Ar-Rahman other than the Ar-Rahman of al-Yamamah (some writers say Ar-Rahman was at Yemen). To verify Muhammad’s claim the Quraysh sent a delegation to Medina Jews, as they thought that Ar-Rahman, truly, was a deity in Yemen or Yamamah. Islamic Historian Ibn Sa’d (Ibn Sa’d, vol.i, pp.189-190) writes:



“The Quraysh sent al-Nadr Ibn al-Harith Ibn ‘Alaqamah and ‘Uqbah Ibn abi Mu’ayt and others to the Jews of Yathrib and told them to ask them (Jews) about Muhammad. They came to Medinah and said to them (Jews): We have come to you because a great affair has taken place amidst us. There is a humble orphan who makes a big claim, considering himself to be the messenger of al-Rahman, while we do not know any al-Rahman except the Rahman of al-Yamamah. They said: Give the description before us. They gave his description, on which they asked them who were his followers. They said: The lowly people among us. Thereupon a scholar of from them laughed and said: he is the Prophet whose attributes we find mentioned in our Scriptures; we also know that his people will be most inimical to him.”



When we read, with an unbiased mind, the first 50 Suras (in chronological order) of the Qur’an we note Muhammad’s confusion regrading Lord, Allah and Ar-Rahman. He was quite unsure of whom he should consider as his God (ilah). Here is a summary of the first 50 Suras regarding Muhammad’s idea of his God:



Only Lord—68, 92, 89, 94, 100, 108, 105, 114, 97, 106, 75 (11 Suras)

Ar-Rahman, Lord—55, 36 (2 Suras)

Ar-Rahman, Allah, Lord—20

Allah, Lord—96, 73, 74, 81, 87, 53, 85, 50, 38, 7, 72, 25, 35, 56, 26, 27, 28, 17 (18 Suras)



This demonstrates Muhammad’s initial vacillation, confusion and ignorance of the affairs of his God (ilah).



The Qur’an also confirms that when he started to preach his brand of faith Muhammad was lost, confused and did not know much of religion. Here is what the Qur’an writes:



Muhammad was lost, then Allah guided him 93:7

093.007 And He found thee wandering, and He gave thee guidance.



In the past Muhammad was heedless 12:3, 42:52

012.003 We do relate unto thee the most beautiful of stories, in that We reveal to thee this (portion of the) Qur'an: before this, thou too was among those who knew it not.
042.052 And thus have We, by Our Command, sent inspiration to thee: thou knewest not (before) what was Revelation, and what was Faith; but We have made the (Qur'an) a Light, wherewith We guide such of Our servants as We will; and verily thou dost guide (men) to the Straight Way,-



So, how did Muhammad learn the basics of his new religion? Enter Imrul Qais and Zayd Ibn Amr.

What are you really saying???