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EA Cables - 1H 2012 Results
mwekez@ji
#21 Posted : Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:47:20 AM
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dunkang wrote:
12.50/- maybe 13/- can be touched before January. JUST A MAYBE!


inshallah; good performance + interim dividend + final dividend = smile
hisah
#22 Posted : Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:50:52 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
dunkang wrote:
12.50/- maybe 13/- can be touched before January. JUST A MAYBE!


inshallah; good performance + interim dividend + final dividend = smile

For those riding for cum div the date to remember is 27-December-2012 then it goes exdiv after.
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dunkang
#23 Posted : Friday, December 07, 2012 11:29:43 AM
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hisah wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
dunkang wrote:
12.50/- maybe 13/- can be touched before January. JUST A MAYBE!


inshallah; good performance + interim dividend + final dividend = smile

For those riding for cum div the date to remember is 27-December-2012 then it goes exdiv after.


I think the rise has also been because of the KES37.5B world bank loan to fund the Ethiopia-Kenya power transmission project by KETRACO.

KES37.5B is a very tidy sum if you take atleast 33p.c will be used to buy cables and assuming 10p.c profits for the supplied cables.

The question is who will win the supply contract.

http://the-star.co.ke/ne...r-line-gets-sh37bn-loan

By the way, who supplies the fiber optic cables to kenyan ISP?
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jerry
#24 Posted : Friday, December 07, 2012 12:09:29 PM
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I'll buy after 27th as I believe if there's ao interim there will be a final dividend.
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dunkang
#25 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 2:10:42 PM
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I bumped into some historical data starting from 2008FY to 2012HY, and decided to estimate 2012FY results;

Turnover, Millions KES
------------ Half Year ------- Full Year
- 2008 ---- missing ---------- 2,812
- 2009 ---- missing ---------- 3,929
- 2010 ---- missing ---------- 3,658
- 2011 ---- 2,351 ------------- 4,971
- 2012 ---- 2,253 -- estimate 4,650

Operating Margin, percent
------------ Half Year ------- Full Year
- 2008 ---- missing ---------- 27.6
- 2009 ---- missing ---------- 13.9
- 2010 ---- missing ---------- 13.6
- 2011 ---- 13.5 -------------- missing
- 2012 ---- 18.3 ---estimate 15.0

Net Finance Cost, Millions KES
------------ Half Year ------- Full Year
- 2008 ---- missing ---------- (107)
- 2009 ---- missing ---------- (19)
- 2010 ---- missing ---------- (21)+(193 bad)
- 2011 ---- (68) -------------- missing
- 2012 ---- (19) ----estimate (50)

Taxation, percent
------------ Half Year ------- Full Year
- 2008 ---- missing ---------- (30.9)
- 2009 ---- missing ---------- (43.7)
- 2010 ---- missing ---------- (54.5)
- 2011 ---- (30.8) ------------ (31.9)
- 2012 ---- (30.2) ---estimate (31)

Profit After Tax, Millions KES
------------ Half Year ------- Full Year
- 2008 ---- missing ---------- 463
- 2009 ---- missing ---------- 296
- 2010 ---- missing ---------- 183
- 2011 ---- 172 --------------- 314
- 2012 ---- 274 ----estimate 446

I may be wrong but that shows that PAT will be up 42 percent.
Also final dividend may be 0.7/-.
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ChessMaster
#26 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 2:34:43 PM
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Their net profit margin for 2012 is lower than for 2008. The revenue for 2012 is 1.65 that of 2008 yet net profit estimates are lower than 2008.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
dunkang
#27 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 2:57:49 PM
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Between 2008-2012, production cost has sky rocketed (check copper and aluminium prices at LME, fuel, labour, forex etc). This may have caused the profit margin to be squeezed even if turnover has gone up.

According to Table 9 page 6 of the report in this link,
http://www.transcentury....e_Genghis%20Capital.pdf
they actually estimate that the operating margin will be 20 percent (hence 800M PAT), which to me is too ambitious.
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ChessMaster
#28 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 3:18:12 PM
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I can see the logic they have in the future revenue estimates and even cost of sales decreasing but I'm skeptical. I don't trust future estimates but then again they have better or more information to support their position. If you can also check how they handled their inventories 2008 - 2010
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
the deal
#29 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:08:07 PM
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Now that Transcentury is at the NSE...I think TCL should buy out minority shareholders in Cables and have the company delisted...they can do a share swap...ala the I&M Bank and City Trust style. The listing of TCL could affect Cables because I dont see why I should buy shares in EA Cables when TCL owns around 63% of the Company...to kill two birds with one stone i just buy TCL
ChessMaster
#30 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:16:07 PM
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Share swap could be expensive.They'll acquire more assets and end up diluting the company shares.Or I'm looking at it wrong.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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