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not so yummy.....veges from the sewage!!
vinii
#21 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 12:32:02 PM
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...the thought that i have eating sukuma wiki from the sewage makes me feel like puking...am taking a break from these 'greens' - maybe cabbages are safer.

I also think fish is a safe bet - hakuna 'fish porno'...
If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
vinii
#22 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 12:37:26 PM
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eeeeiiiiiiisssshhhhhh @ njung'e . the first pic is disgusting !!! toa hio !!
If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
MaichBlack
#23 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 12:43:17 PM
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Weee @guka!!! Hiyo inakaa kama duka la picha yani photoshop! That head is not in sync with the body. That head does not belong to such a fat person!!!
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For Sport
#24 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 12:54:47 PM
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vinii wrote:
eeeeiiiiiiisssshhhhhh @ njung'e . the first pic is disgusting !!! toa hio !!


maybe they're before and after pics smile
Shak
#25 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 1:05:20 PM
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mukiha wrote:
So how many people have died or fallen ill as result of eating veggies grown with sewage? Answer = zero, or very close to zero!!

these are the sort of stories that media houses report when they have nothing better to report.

Completely baseless!!

I will continue eating my sukuma-wiki....


Don't you think this is one of the reasons cancer has become so prevalent today? This is a real matter of concern and our government agencies need to take serious action in ensuring that all foods are grown safely and are fit for consumption. I doubt they would allow this in developed countries and anyone found to be growing food in toxic environments is liable to criminal prosecution( watched a kinda similar story on medical detectives). This is criminal at the very least!
selah
#26 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 1:16:17 PM
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mukiha wrote:
So how many people have died or fallen ill as result of eating veggies grown with sewage? Answer = zero, or very close to zero!!

these are the sort of stories that media houses report when they have nothing better to report.

Completely baseless!!

I will continue eating my sukuma-wiki....


There are very serious health implication when one consumes vegies that were grown using untreated sewerage
One is kidney or even liver failure this is because of metal found in many detergents and industrial chemicals that
find themselves into the sewer.

I have been having serious stomach aches whenever I bought the veggies from our local mama bonga I think I should now shift from sukuma to cabbages I dont think They are able to plant cabbages in Ruai and Njiru areas.

'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
mukiha
#27 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 1:27:32 PM
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Shak wrote:
mukiha wrote:
So how many people have died or fallen ill as result of eating veggies grown with sewage? Answer = zero, or very close to zero!!

these are the sort of stories that media houses report when they have nothing better to report.

Completely baseless!!

I will continue eating my sukuma-wiki....


Don't you think this is one of the reasons cancer has become so prevalent today? This is a real matter of concern and our government agencies need to take serious action in ensuring that all foods are grown safely and are fit for consumption. I doubt they would allow this in developed countries and anyone found to be growing food in toxic environments is liable to criminal prosecution( watched a kinda similar story on medical detectives). This is criminal at the very least!


Not quite.

If a tree is struck by lighting deep in the forest, does it make a noise?

People never used to get tested so they never used to find out.

Even something as common as prostate cancer was never called a cancer; it is baptised "ugonjwa wa makojoo" - the urine disease!
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mukiha
#28 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 1:31:26 PM
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selah wrote:
mukiha wrote:
So how many people have died or fallen ill as result of eating veggies grown with sewage? Answer = zero, or very close to zero!!

these are the sort of stories that media houses report when they have nothing better to report.

Completely baseless!!

I will continue eating my sukuma-wiki....


There are very serious health implication when one consumes vegies that were grown using untreated sewerage
One is kidney or even liver failure this is because of metal found in many detergents and industrial chemicals that
find themselves into the sewer.

I have been having serious stomach aches whenever I bought the veggies from our local mama bonga I think I should now shift from sukuma to cabbages I dont think They are able to plant cabbages in Ruai and Njiru areas.



Yes; one CAN get those diseases that you list; but has there been any reported cases? And I don't mean reported in the media, but in medical publications.

Your stomach aches are most likely from the HANDLING of the veggies from your mama mboga, but not from the way the veggies were grown.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#29 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 1:40:49 PM
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This debate reminds me of the other one about milk from independent vendors. Tetra Pak has roped in the Dairy Board to warn consumers about the health risks that CAN arise from drinking such milk.

Curiously, all the public info leaflets show milk packed in tetra-packs. Yet pasteurised milk is also hygienically packed in glass and plastic bottles as wells as plastic pouches!

But the most damming finding was that by a University of Nairobi researcher that [A] there was no reported case of sickness from consuming milk during the period of her research - 12 months and [B] that there was no contamination detected in all the (random) samples from independent vendors that she investigated.

She concluded that there is not scientific justification to fight the vendors. And after all, all the people (again from a random sample) interviewed said that they boil milk before consuming - even those who buy pasteurized milk!

BTW; pasteurized means "almost" boiled!!
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Wendz
#30 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2011 2:19:04 PM
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mukiha wrote:
This debate reminds me of the other one about milk from independent vendors. Tetra Pak has roped in the Dairy Board to warn consumers about the health risks that CAN arise from drinking such milk.

Curiously, all the public info leaflets show milk packed in tetra-packs. Yet pasteurised milk is also hygienically packed in glass and plastic bottles as wells as plastic pouches!

But the most damming finding was that by a University of Nairobi researcher that [A] there was no reported case of sickness from consuming milk during the period of her research - 12 months and [B] that there was no contamination detected in all the (random) samples from independent vendors that she investigated.

She concluded that there is not scientific justification to fight the vendors. And after all, all the people (again from a random sample) interviewed said that they boil milk before consuming - even those who buy pasteurized milk!

BTW; pasteurized means "almost" boiled!!


you are very right on this.... while i was growing up, except for the maziwa ya nyayo, we took 'unprocessed' milk if you may like. it was just boiled. I never heard one single person sick - leave alone die - of drinking this milk. Todate, if i get a chance of getting the unprocessed cow milk, i still consume it... but only if i get it directly from the farmer that i know.....not vendors. I saw some maasais one sunday morning put some chemicals from a small bottle to their mitungi's of milk in Kitengela.... this is later distributed to outlets where they sell to unsuspecting customers.... may be such incidences is what it was meant to curb!
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