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mukiha
#21 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:16:27 PM
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raszag wrote:
They are justified to strike, you cant have quality education if the ratio of teacher(s) students per class is high...


I am still puzzled by the contention that the pupil/teacher ration is too high. My son's classroom has 52 pupils. Now that might seem very high and we could even blame it on FPE.

But I do recall that during my days (over 30 years ago), our classroom had 48 pupils. And this was looooong before FPE. And by the way, this was a public school and was amongst the top 3 in the whole district in CPE results.

Those who've been to university also know that class sizes of a few hundred are not uncommon.

So; is it really true that the quality of our education is poor because our class sizes are large?

People with BEd degrees, please help....
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YesuWangu
#22 Posted : Thursday, September 08, 2011 4:31:33 PM
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mukiha wrote:
raszag wrote:
They are justified to strike, you cant have quality education if the ratio of teacher(s) students per class is high...


I am still puzzled by the contention that the pupil/teacher ration is too high. My son's classroom has 52 pupils. Now that might seem very high and we could even blame it on FPE.

But I do recall that during my days (over 30 years ago), our classroom had 48 pupils. And this was looooong before FPE. And by the way, this was a public school and was amongst the top 3 in the whole district in CPE results.

Those who've been to university also know that class sizes of a few hundred are not uncommon.

So; is it really true that the quality of our education is poor because our class sizes are large?

People with BEd degrees, please help....


Yes, but VOK opened at 5 pm by that time you were through with homework. or?
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Inuendo
#23 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 9:15:04 AM
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mukiha wrote:
raszag wrote:
They are justified to strike, you cant have quality education if the ratio of teacher(s) students per class is high...


I am still puzzled by the contention that the pupil/teacher ration is too high. My son's classroom has 52 pupils. Now that might seem very high and we could even blame it on FPE.

But I do recall that during my days (over 30 years ago), our classroom had 48 pupils. And this was looooong before FPE. And by the way, this was a public school and was amongst the top 3 in the whole district in CPE results.

Those who've been to university also know that class sizes of a few hundred are not uncommon.

So; is it really true that the quality of our education is poor because our class sizes are large?

People with BEd degrees, please help....



Ok i don't have a BEd degree but from what i have personally seen is that the figure of 52 is sort of an average. Nevertheless, in most populated areas such as low income estates the ratio is far much higher. I have seen a class with 70 or so pupils. You can imagine the sight with all the kids crammed up jostling for writing space.

What i don't understand is, if teachers haven't been hired for all those years, why do we still have teacher training colleges still open? Where do these graduands go?
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bwenyenye
#24 Posted : Friday, September 09, 2011 10:06:47 AM
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I think the bigger problem is that teaching has been so demeaned that most people get in there as a last resort and they do it for the money only. You cannot teach kids if you hated school or failed yourself. I still believe that we lost it when teaching ceased being a vocation and became a money making scheme. And this is not just in teaching but in nursing, medicine,accounting etc.. you name it.

No teacher worth his calling would be caught dead striking. Because he/she knows that kids learn more from what they see than what you tell them. So where are the true teachers now.... taking care of their cows and farms wondering why the kids are being made to suffer coz their colleagues joined teaching to make money.
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radio
#25 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 12:52:03 PM
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Day 1 of the teachers' strike despite the court order.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Teachers+stay+away+from+classes+as+schools+reopen/-/1056/1495130/-/auo9r3z/-/index.html

And now this:
Capital FM Kenya
KNUT suffers setback as Secretary General David Okuta is admitted to ICU at a Kisumu hospital after collapsing, hours before strike started.

I hope the doctors are not on strike too!
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Magigi
#26 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 12:56:45 PM
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radio wrote:
Day 1 of the teachers' strike despite the court order.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Teachers+stay+away+from+classes+as+schools+reopen/-/1056/1495130/-/auo9r3z/-/index.html

And now this:
Capital FM Kenya
KNUT suffers setback as Secretary General David Okuta is admitted to ICU at a Kisumu hospital after collapsing, hours before strike started.

I hope the doctors are not on strike too!

That guy is "monumental". He should be divided into 3 people!
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simonkabz
#27 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 1:07:29 PM
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Hahaha @magigi. And the Sossion fellow, he sounds like a warlord.
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McReggae
#28 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 1:10:46 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Hahaha @magigi. And the Sossion fellow, he sounds like a warlord.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ..and he also look's like so!!!
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maka
#29 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 1:27:01 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Mukiha, i like the fact that you follow up on your child. But the most impressive thing is the kid can speak kyuk. Good parenting!

Following up on your child thats a 100% but kindly explain how learning your mother tongue translates to good parenting?
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Magigi
#30 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 1:33:38 PM
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McReggae wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Hahaha @magigi. And the Sossion fellow, he sounds like a warlord.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ..and he also look's like so!!!

..His looks are menacing... Mean... Reminds me of Kerubino Kwanyin Bol!!!
...But whoever offered 300% salary increase was sick in the head..Who was it by the wa
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