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Cde Monomotapa
#41 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:50:56 AM
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gatoho wrote:
the deal wrote:
@mlefu

What Does Manipulation Mean?
The act of artificially inflating or deflating the price of a security. In most cases, manipulation is illegal. It is much easier to manipulate the share price of smaller companies, such as penny stocks, because they are not as closely watched by analysts as the medium- and large-sized firms.

Also known as "price manipulation".
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Investopedia explains Manipulation
One way people can deflate the price of a security is by placing hundreds of small orders at a significantly lower price than the one at which it has been trading. This gives investors the impression that there is something wrong with the company, so they sell, pushing the prices even lower. Another example of manipulation would be to place simultaneous buy and sell orders through different brokers that cancel each other out but give the perception, because of the higher volume, that there is increased interest in the security.


Thengiu The Deal.. i tried explaining this a while ago and got called stupid, not that am a genius but that was below the belt

Uchumi & KCB.
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Aguytrying
#42 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:49:55 AM
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dunkang wrote:
@Aguytrying, does the 2% gain factor in the commission charges?

Instead of eye-ing cfcih, wait for KPLC at 21.20, its coming soon, very very soon.

yes it does. You mean 21.25. Why are you so confident that kplc will come down?
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#43 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:52:38 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
Mumias shld be a nice play as you trade the correction maybe from 7.20 to 7.90 thereof ..not bad

true. Though i'd have liked to buy at 7.00 flat and sell at about 7.80. To increase margin and reduce risk.
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#44 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:18:24 AM
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Trading makes the Broker rich not the client. [Paraphrasing Warren Buffett]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#45 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:27:22 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
Mumias shld be a nice play as you trade the correction maybe from 7.20 to 7.90 thereof ..not bad

true. Though i'd have liked to buy at 7.00 flat and sell at about 7.80. To increase margin and reduce risk.


7 and sub 7 you may get. Today it has done a 7.10 and the VWAP is 7.15
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Cde Monomotapa
#46 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:04:54 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Trading makes the Broker rich not the client. [Paraphrasing Warren Buffett]
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#47 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 5:35:30 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Trading makes the Broker rich not the client. [Paraphrasing Warren Buffett]

Amen to that!
"All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
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Aguytrying
#48 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:12:00 PM
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earthvoice wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Trading makes the Broker rich not the client. [Paraphrasing Warren Buffett]

Amen to that!

infact you are right, this is not speculation its trading. I like trading. Its easy, its fun. Quick results. Keeps me awake on the market. Less than 10% of portfolio. I see the trends, they can end drastically or not, can be on one share and end. Be on another share. Change from time to time. But are always there, and i see them.
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#49 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 11:14:37 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
Mumias shld be a nice play as you trade the correction maybe from 7.20 to 7.90 thereof ..not bad

true. Though i'd have liked to buy at 7.00 flat and sell at about 7.80. To increase margin and reduce risk.


7 and sub 7 you may get. Today it has done a 7.10 and the VWAP is 7.15


VWAP is now 7.05 (11.10am)
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Aguytrying
#50 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 4:51:40 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
Mumias shld be a nice play as you trade the correction maybe from 7.20 to 7.90 thereof ..not bad

true. Though i'd have liked to buy at 7.00 flat and sell at about 7.80. To increase margin and reduce risk.


7 and sub 7 you may get. Today it has done a 7.10 and the VWAP is 7.15


VWAP is now 7.05 (11.10am)

must admit, mumias was on my radar. But potential gain to 7.80 just a bit small for me.
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QW25071985
#51 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 6:16:28 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
Mumias shld be a nice play as you trade the correction maybe from 7.20 to 7.90 thereof ..not bad

true. Though i'd have liked to buy at 7.00 flat and sell at about 7.80. To increase margin and reduce risk.


7 and sub 7 you may get. Today it has done a 7.10 and the VWAP is 7.15


VWAP is now 7.05 (11.10am)

must admit, mumias was on my radar. But potential gain to 7.80 just a bit small for me.


heheheh. i get ur point . really not worth it. coz its just a 6% profit (inclusive brokers damage) up to 7.90 .
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For Sport
#52 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 6:56:03 PM
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@ Aguytrying & QW - 6% doesnt sound like much but doesnt the time frame also matter?
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QW25071985
#53 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 7:20:46 PM
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For Sport wrote:
@ Aguytrying & QW - 6% doesnt sound like much but doesnt the time frame also matter?


the time frame here is days. and thats just too little to bother with..We'll just keep looking for othger opportunities.
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