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2012		#41 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 12:16:32 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		ProverB wrote: current price fully factored "Expectations" I don't think so. What made you arrive at that conclusion? Most of us (myself included) expected the acquisitions in Ug and Burundi to reduce the profits significantly plus we know the acquisitions are expected to return good profits sooner than later. BBI will solve it :)
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cnn		#42 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 12:38:02 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,621		ProverB wrote: Iborian wrote: The verdict is out. The market is not impressed. Stock has ticked up JUST 20 cts or so from yesterday's depressed price. WTF!!!! current price fully factored "Expectations" the only reaction would be if actual results CONFIRM those expectations or not.. ..if not..price tanks..if yes..price unchanged..if actual performance way above expectation..price ups.. ..of those three...KK just confirmed.. so pricing is right..and can either remain there..or lower..depending on extent of "mood swing".. ..if bored u sell..if excited you buy.. so how do you judge mood of traders today on KK? Nothing to do with expectations,the whole market is just subdued for whatever reasons that might be.In a different setting the price would have reacted differently and will.
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holycow		#43 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 1:14:40 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/11/2006 Posts: 972 Location: Home		The demand orders are as low as 8.60/=
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the deal		#44 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 1:32:40 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery		holycow wrote: The demand orders are as low as 8.60/= what does that mean? what are you trying to imply? whats your name again?
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The Merchant		#45 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 1:42:11 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/24/2010 Posts: 846 Location: KENYA		I disagree with you @proverB. This resuklts exceeded expectations especially on the EPS growth and dividends. The market pricing the stock is just irrational. If one has cash just buy, you're assured of a 5% div yield anyway...
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JabaBoeku		#46 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 1:46:33 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 4/28/2008 Posts: 53		great dividend yield...liking it all the way!
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youcan'tstopusnow		#47 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 1:56:47 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		The Merchant wrote: I disagree with you @proverB. This resuklts exceeded expectations especially on the EPS growth and dividends. The market pricing the stock is just irrational. If one has cash just buy, you're assured of a 5% div yield anyway... I agree with ProverB. The results were just as expected. Half year PAT was 1.18B. What were you expecting them to post for the 2nd half? But as you say, there's a 5% dividend yield. Lakini siku hizi every company is dishing them out GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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ProverB		#48 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 2:05:28 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander		2012 wrote: ProverB wrote: current price fully factored "Expectations" I don't think so. What made you arrive at that conclusion? Most of us (myself included) expected the acquisitions in Ug and Burundi to reduce the profits significantly plus we know the acquisitions are expected to return good profits sooner than later. there is no one overriding expectations.. chances 99.9% of all expectations out there did not include ur Ug-Burundi factor... and expectations vary all the way down to most idiotic... eg.. "KK has a petrol station in LOLiOndo, therefore, all these cars stuck there will buy petrol only from KK.. therefore better profit".. and that is reason enough to buy.. Bottomline.. market reflects all expectations on weighted average. there are those that belive KK fuels KQ.. seriously..and when kq buys a plane they ask if it's right time to buy kk.. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16 - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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youcan'tstopusnow		#49 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 3:20:37 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		ProverB wrote: and expectations vary all the way down to most idiotic... eg.. "KK has a petrol station in LOLiOndo, therefore, all these cars stuck there will buy petrol only from KK.. therefore better profit".. and that is reason enough to buy.. GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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2012		#50 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 3:26:44 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		ProverB wrote: 2012 wrote: ProverB wrote: current price fully factored "Expectations" I don't think so. What made you arrive at that conclusion? Most of us (myself included) expected the acquisitions in Ug and Burundi to reduce the profits significantly plus we know the acquisitions are expected to return good profits sooner than later. there is no one overriding expectations.. chances 99.9% of all expectations out there did not include ur Ug-Burundi factor... and expectations vary all the way down to most idiotic... eg.. "KK has a petrol station in LOLiOndo, therefore, all these cars stuck there will buy petrol only from KK.. therefore better profit".. and that is reason enough to buy.. Bottomline.. market reflects all expectations on weighted average. there are those that belive KK fuels KQ.. seriously..and when kq buys a plane they ask if it's right time to buy kk.. Clearly we're on the same page. I think the only thing holding NSE down is politics - the Hague issue and next year's elections are a big thorn in NSE's ass. Our parliamentarians selling our sovereignty to the west despite warnings by Mutula, the recent opinion poll that suggested a run-off btwn RO and Jomo's son who might not be available and the uncertainty around the 2012 elections are enough keep good investors away. BBI will solve it :)
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Aguytrying		#51 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 4:34:11 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		I feel sometimes we give politics too much weight. The referendum was peaceful and market didn't tank that much then. so how will something like ocampo prosecuting ppl cause investors to runaway, with tails between their legs. And i feel the 2012 elections are abit too far to cause all this mayhem. Three things here: middle east conflict, high oil prices, weak shilling. Im aware the last two have ameriolated off late. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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2012		#52 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 4:54:31 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		Aguytrying wrote: I feel sometimes we give politics too much weight. The referendum was peaceful and market didn't tank that much then. so how will something like ocampo prosecuting ppl cause investors to runaway, with tails between their legs. Not us but what the rest of the world thinks of us. When you are unable to prosecute your criminals and have to hand them over to a higher power you are basically telling the world that the rule of law does not apply here. 2012 elections are next year, that's even too short a time for a short-time investor. BBI will solve it :)
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hisah		#53 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 5:04:03 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977		NSE can even consolidate losses and rally at least back to 4200 - 4300 levels for the next selling bout and now already lower than 3900... sic... A price disconnect is up on the cards with more downside risk. The chart never lies... Get ready for greater discounts despite the rosy fundamentals... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Aguytrying		#54 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 5:18:58 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		@2012. I see your side of it. Esp the investing period being short. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Aguytrying		#55 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 5:20:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		hisah wrote: NSE can even consolidate losses and rally at least back to 4200 - 4300 levels for the next selling bout and now already lower than 3900... sic... A price disconnect is up on the cards with more downside risk. The chart never lies... Get ready for greater discounts despite the rosy fundamentals... when is the next relief rally. Jesse livermore, said the tape never lies. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Cde Monomotapa		#56 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 5:47:58 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		Bottom line for me is do we have peace & stabilty? If the answer is YES then I do not care how we get it. To hell with this sovreignity (@ ICC)if it stops me from waking up everyday to do what I love doing & fending for my people!
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QW25071985		#57 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 11:09:39 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2011 Posts: 946		holycow wrote: The demand orders are as low as 8.60/= and still wazua gurus expected this stock to rally . how i pity them....
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cnn		#58 Posted : Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:32:08 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,621		QW25071985 wrote: holycow wrote: The demand orders are as low as 8.60/= and still wazua gurus expected this stock to rally . how i pity them.... @mutant,the price will catch up,when?..sometime.
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youcan'tstopusnow		#59 Posted : Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:39:00 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		cnn wrote: QW25071985 wrote: holycow wrote: The demand orders are as low as 8.60/= and still wazua gurus expected this stock to rally . how i pity them.... @mutant,the price will catch up,when?..sometime. Ati mutant? GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Cde Monomotapa		#60 Posted : Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:55:50 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		Ninja turtles!! Wapi?!
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