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Safaricom Restructure or downsizing?
Gadaffi
#41 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 7:38:34 PM
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the current restructuring by safcom will only reduce cases of fraud within th company and bring in some bit of efficiency. however, this will not reduce the huge costs they are runnin with so as to generate sustainable growth levels. i feel they need 2 do more
aydenjason
#42 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 10:33:04 PM
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Now,lets be sensible enough n get to the botom of this guys. Saf has neva 'downsized' workforce n 'merged' its depatments since inception. Do we jus assume bob is laying off jus a few staff to hav diner at his place then he reeinstates them in a wks time? Cmon! Look up! The sky is darkenin. N anyone whos nt hearin the word 'BUSSINESS' for the first time knws tooo well wat ths means... STORM
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Cde Monomotapa
#43 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 11:35:56 PM
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Does this restructuring mean a revenue drop @ Scan considering Saf has been their "cash cow" and I don't see Airtel compensating via aggressive marketing like Zain used to do...
hisah
#44 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 11:55:20 PM
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Restructuring frankly means to cut off some slack. Some posts will be lost. Downsizing or rightsizing all lead to the same station - job loss.

Now looking forward, the board of cck want the ceo out - no contract renewal. I guess the price war & constant loggerheads with ndemo & some operators, overcooked his goose. Read here - http://www.businessdaily...4/-/eo20uc/-/index.html

No wonder the strange demand for safcom share. Rebound should target 4.40.

With waweru's likely out I wonder what will be airtel's response...

I like drama and a good fight smile
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Jamani
#45 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:35:10 AM
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subzero wrote:
Jamani wrote:
subzero wrote:
mukiha wrote:
[quote=majimaji]
First with Momey transfer [remember SokoTele?];


@mukiha are you sure ?
Shame on you


On this one Mukiha is right, only issue was Kencell/celtel/zain didnt take ownership they left it to K-rep and no adverts or budget for it was allocated safcom perfected it, and by the way it is said that the safcom staff that made it work as is now used to work for Kencell/celtel/zain and no one listerned to him the rest is......




mpesa launch date : 13 Feb 2007
sokotele launch date : 4th April 2007


True that, but the product was already in the market and Kencell/celtel/zain expected K-rep to do the ads for them this didnt happen once they noticed safcom picking up with mpesa they went for a launch or rather a relaunch since it was already active in the market
Jamani
#46 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:49:18 AM
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aydenjason wrote:
Now,lets be sensible enough n get to the botom of this guys. Saf has neva 'downsized' workforce n 'merged' its depatments since inception. Do we jus assume bob is laying off jus a few staff to hav diner at his place then he reeinstates them in a wks time? Cmon! Look up! The sky is darkenin. N anyone whos nt hearin the word 'BUSSINESS' for the first time knws tooo well wat ths means... STORM


Well most Telcos after start-up restructure/downsize every 3 years this is done silently behind the scenes. Kencell/celtel/zain has done it 3 to 4 times, telkom its known, Yu has done it to some positions not massively but outsourced fully its custcare iko talk of doing it on IT&network dept. Safcom was the remaining company and this was bound to happen... sharp Telco employees know this very well thats why the keep moving and asking for high salos
runjam
#47 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:31:13 AM
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moneydust wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
chaliwong wrote:
Airtel will never score in kenya. The only people who wil score with Airtel are consumers
As a consumer I am happy...


Me too gone are the days when I used to make calls with my eyes on the clock..

Nowadays I find myself enjoying my calls very much.Airtel may not make profits for now but we the mobile phone consumers shall forever remain indebted to them and one day they shall get their just rewards..




Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
hisah
#48 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:27:05 PM
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hisah wrote:
Restructuring frankly means to cut off some slack. Some posts will be lost. Downsizing or rightsizing all lead to the same station - job loss.

Now looking forward, the board of cck want the ceo out - no contract renewal. I guess the price war & constant loggerheads with ndemo & some operators, overcooked his goose. Read here - http://www.businessdaily...4/-/eo20uc/-/index.html

No wonder the strange demand for safcom share. Rebound should target 4.40.

With waweru's likely out I wonder what will be airtel's response...

I like drama and a good fight smile


As expected with that CCK news flash on the termination of the head, buyers stepping on the plate to push scom back above 4/- From this excessive oversold levels - 4.40 should be first target towards 4.80 before the next selling bout.

Airtel has failed to delist from Zambia stock exchange for the 3rd attempt. Seems the Zambian LuSE head is not willing to let them pay the remaining 3% public shareholders pennies...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mwenza
#49 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:49:16 PM
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mukiha wrote:
mwenza wrote:
mukiha wrote:



Kencell/Celltel/Zain were always one step ahead of SCOM in product innovation. First to introduce SMS



Are you sure?

Yes; we [Kencell customers] were sending SMSs for a while before SCOM started. And also sending SMS abroad...



With all due respect, you are wrong on this one. I had both Kencell and Safaricom lines and I can state categorically that SAFARICOM introduced SMS service ahead of Kencell.
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mwenza
#50 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:55:37 PM
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XSK wrote:
subzero wrote:
mukiha wrote:
[quote=majimaji]
First with Momey transfer [remember SokoTele?];


@mukiha are you sure ?
Shame on you

@all

Kwanini mnatoa Mukiha rangi?

This is very mbad. we might lose this serious contributor.


Hatumtoi rangi. We all realise he is a serious and a seasoned contributor to Wazua but that does not make him infallible.

I particularly remember him stating confidently sometime back on a Nakumatt thread that John Harun Mwau, despite what has been in the public domain, "OWNS ZERO SHARES IN NAKUMATT".
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aydenjason
#51 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:04:08 PM
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Time wil tel
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Jus Blazin
#52 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:32:16 PM
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aydenjason wrote:
Now,lets be sensible enough n get to the botom of this guys. Saf has neva 'downsized' workforce n 'merged' its depatments since inception.

You are wrong on this one. There was once a division called Safaricom Business/Enterprise with a full Chief. It was later reduced to a department, under another division, and the Chief could not picture himself as the HOD reporting to his soon to be former peer. He submitted his resignation letter.

Now from the dailies, the division has been relaunched.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
VituVingiSana
#53 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:13:56 PM
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Hopefully... We as consumers get MORE after the restructuring... [which is why I support Airtel coz I get more for less in voice] I use Safaricom for data & I like them!
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Sasha
#54 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:19:57 PM
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Taking what Bob said at face value, this is simply a reorganisation via a consolidation of departments which inevitably will lead to duplication of duties, automation of some tasks and other such redundancies. Of course this will lead to a number of positions being eliminated.

However, to say that this exercise is intended to reduce costs is way off the mark. If it was intended to cut costs, why incur further costs in having applications and interviews for these positions?

What Bob is doing is just reorganising the company to suit his management style. He may have been in the advisory board when MJ was there but he had no say in the way MJ set up the management. Now in the hot seat, he wants to run the company in his own way. Of course, this will include getting rid of some MJ loyalists who he feels he cannot trust entirely, thus the aptitude tests and fresh applications! It happens whenever there is a change at the top e.g. Seni Adetu at EABL.
mozenrat
#55 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:32:54 PM
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Sasha wrote:
If it was intended to cut costs, why incur further costs in having applications and interviews for these positions?


What costs for interviewing? There are no external candidates!!
Sasha
#56 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:39:05 AM
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@mozenrat: Time costs? Opportunity costs? Plus you can be sure there will be external candidates even though Bob says otherwise. It beats the logic of conducting the interviews in the first place!
selah
#57 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:03:49 AM
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@sasha so in your opinion bob is supposed to chill and let what MJ built work it self out?

If you look at what Bob is doing is create an efficient company that control cost by reducing pilfrage and duplcation of duties as well as concentrate on areas which contribute to the companies profitability that is Mpesa and customer care which also encompasses the retail business.

For safaricom to remain competitive they should have an effecient chain of command such that decisions and ideas get to the management in a timely fashion.
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Sasha
#58 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:26:16 AM
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@selah: Au contraire! I think it is long overdue. Like I said, if we take what Bob said at face value, then this is simply a reorganisation intended to streamline the company. Although not obvious, it is also intended to align top management to the change in the CEO i.e. Bob wants his own people to head the key functions!

However, as any experienced reorganisation/restructuring professional will tell you, any such exercise inevitably will lead to several redundancies, some of which I listed above. Now I understand that Bob has to appear not to be terminating people only 6 months into his tenure, but some senior people will definately lose their jobs!
majimaji
#59 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:08:14 PM
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It's clear that the founding phase of safcom went with MJ. He can be credited with making safcom a way of life. Now enter Bob, I think he can be expected to jettison extra baggage by trimming the work force and i bet he will eventually match Airtel in outsourcing many functions. Safcom shareholders demand value for their investments, Bob has to deliver or else...
VituVingiSana
#60 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:33:56 PM
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Is Safaricom moving from a growth firm to a mature firm?
[I think not yet coz data is where the potential is...]
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