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Seeders
#21 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:33:18 PM
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operation 2012

- no one has the 50+1 so far.

- at this rate, the 2012 polls will definitely head for a run off.

- there is a likelihood that the difference between the 2 candidates in the runoff will be less than 10%.

- this is kenya. an election petition is 100% certain if there is a runoff.

- the CJ will be the head of the Supreme Court and chair of the JSC. will have some influence on the petition verdict.

- each side would want to pull a Gbagbo or a Bush if it comes down to the wire.
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FundamentAli
#22 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:55:00 PM
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A very interesting scenario has been created. It would now be difficult to give other people the job. What do you do with the one nominated? Do you say they are all bad? DOn't they deserve a chance? PNU and ODM were huggling each one wanting one of their own. All name discussed were ignored. If someone tries to push for those names, they will surely look very bad now. Interesting to see what happens next.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#23 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:09:20 PM
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2012 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
We have a case where a sitting president has posibly trashed the constitution and you are busy here praising his ingenuity.

Kweli nguruwe hujipika na mafuta yake.


Don't be too emotional, don't get carried away, this is Kenyan politics. Don't forget that Kibs has nothing to lose and will be retiring next year. He can afford to test the waters especially now that his immediate rival is down and out. Let's await the next opinion poll, I'm sure this time the tables have more flipped over.


What do you mean he has nothing to lose, the only thing MK now wants is the respect of the nation, if he loses this he will spend his last days a very sad man. look at poor old Moi, he may still intimidate, but he does not get anyone's respect.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#24 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:15:33 PM
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extrablessed wrote:
"2012. As mutahi ngunyi would say, Kibbs has no interest in the appointments and he does not care who gets those positions. He is a winner whether the nominees are approved or are not... All he wanted was to convince the AU to defer the ICC trials while RAO was against that...The rest are sideshows...


MK does care who takes up those seats, thats why he decided to nominate them in the first place, there is no "political maskirovka" here, it was simply a case of poor advise leading to bad choices, if the list is rejected, then he will have lost a great deal.

The AU endorsement of ICC deferral means very little, he still needs to go past the veto powers of UK, US and France in the security council, what will he trade this time. I doubt the African representatives in the council will be willing to stick their necks out too far to horse trade for the sake of the 6 Kenyans.

I assume the general desire of Kenyans is to see those responsible for PEV headed to the hague so even if he were to succeed, he would lose much more than his 6 beloved victims.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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willin2learn
#25 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:30:51 PM
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extrablessed wrote:
"2012. As mutahi ngunyi would say, Kibbs has no interest in the appointments and he does not care who gets those positions. He is a winner whether the nominees are approved or are not... All he wanted was to convince the AU to defer the ICC trials while RAO was against that...The rest are sideshows...


You took this off my mouth! We were all so busy dissecting the list that the 'shuttle diplomacy' battle that was reaching crescendo on Thursday was forgotten!!
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2012
#26 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:20:17 PM
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extrablessed wrote:
"2012. As mutahi ngunyi would say, Kibbs has no interest in the appointments and he does not care who gets those positions. He is a winner whether the nominees are approved or are not... All he wanted was to convince the AU to defer the ICC trials while RAO was against that...The rest are sideshows...



I think RO's failure in Ivory Coast has really hurt his persona internationally. In politics you goof and the wolfs pounce, look at how Kalonzo is smiling after trouncing RO in the continental turf.

BBI will solve it :)
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McReggae
#27 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:27:24 PM
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2012 wrote:
[quote=extrablessed]"2012. I think RO's failure in Ivory Coast has really hurt his persona internationally. In politics you goof and the wolfs pounce, look at how Kalonzo is smiling after trouncing RO in the continental turf.


....laughable at best!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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FundamentAli
#28 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:35:20 PM
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How can the Judiciary be complaining while they are the subject matter? Wako and Gicheru who are members of JSC have an interest in the appointments as it is about their jobs and when do they go home. Kibaki has caught them by surprise. It is time to go home guys. We have just stripped MPs the power to decide their own salaries. Why then should we let the Judiciary dictate about what is right and what is wrong on issues to do with their appointments? You should remember the same judges attempted to sabotage the referendum in order to preserve their jobs.
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McReggae
#29 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:38:25 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
How can the Judiciary be complaining while they are the subject matter? Wako and Gicheru who are members of JSC have an interest in the appointments as it is about their jobs and when do they go home. Kibaki has caught them by surprise. It is time to go home guys. We have just stripped MPs the power to decide their own salaries. Why then should we let the Judiciary dictate about what is right and what is wrong on issues to do with their appointments? You should remember the same judges attempted to sabotage the referendum in order to preserve their jobs.


Dude, here we have a constituion that is in operation!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Kirika
#30 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:42:08 PM
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smile mmmmmhhhhh....... the number of guests is very telling.

I wonder how Marende will rule on this one, he could just upset RAO or Kibs either way.
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