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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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@gesowan. Can u then be honest to us that u started this thread on wishes/rumours not facts? If I got the rts at .55, I'll pay commission on .55 and not .55+19.50. If u get the extra rts well and good for u. I do't think there is a loser in either case. Lets wait for the results and avoid speculation. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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Kwanza! KPLC Should pay the dividend of 5bob which was due on 15th of this month. I have not seen a cheque or EFT yet. Has anybody received his/her KPLC dividend yet? [/quote] i saw some customers depositing their dividend cheques on or about 18th of this month. I expected to receive mine through eft but didn't and am wondering where to start. I dont like using my precious time and resources chasing after my rights. Democracy does not belong to the dead
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/6/2010 Posts: 289
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@jerry hi to be sincere this is what i was told as a matter of fact may i quote Dyer & Blair Investment Bank executive chairman Jimnah Mbaru said "the level of subscription for the Kenya Power and Lighting Company’s rights was not clear on Friday, but hinted that the offer could have been slightly under-subscribed".
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 274 Location: Ltktk
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gesowan wrote:@jerry hi to be sincere this is what i was told as a matter of fact may i quote Dyer & Blair Investment Bank executive chairman Jimnah Mbaru said "the level of subscription for the Kenya Power and Lighting Company’s rights was not clear on Friday, but hinted that the offer could have been slightly under-subscribed".
UNDERSUBSCRIPTION WILL BE A NEW YEAR'S GIFT to all of us who applied for additional shares!!! ...things fall apart...the centre cannot hold..mere anarchy is loosed upon the world...w b yeats
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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TUPAC wrote:gesowan wrote:@jerry hi to be sincere this is what i was told as a matter of fact may i quote Dyer & Blair Investment Bank executive chairman Jimnah Mbaru said "the level of subscription for the Kenya Power and Lighting Company’s rights was not clear on Friday, but hinted that the offer could have been slightly under-subscribed".
UNDERSUBSCRIPTION WILL BE A NEW YEAR'S GIFT to all of us who applied for additional shares!!! @gesowan. I see ur point. However, SLIGHT-under doesn't mean will make all of us winners in our different strategies. The idea was to get the shares in whichever strategy one deemed fit. Also no refund is the best scenario we can have. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/24/2010 Posts: 238 Location: nairobi
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Seems there is a confusion here between under, oversubscription and underwriting. To me in the case of kplc i define the terms as follows; OVERSUBSCRIPTION; All rights were taken or traded and more than the available was applied for. This will attract a refund. Not likely for kplc. UNDERSUBSCRIPTION; Not all the rights floated were either traded, taken or applied for, which calls or forces the UNDERWRITERS to take the remaining only within the percentages underwritten. I see an undersubscrition but less than what was underwriten. which means all rights applied for will be allocated leaving some small portion to be taken by the undewriters.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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innovator wrote:Seems there is a confusion here between under, oversubscription and underwriting. To me in the case of kplc i define the terms as follows; OVERSUBSCRIPTION; All rights were taken or traded and more than the available was applied for. This will attract a refund. Not likely for kplc. UNDERSUBSCRIPTION; Not all the rights floated were either traded, taken or applied for, which calls or forces the UNDERWRITERS to take the remaining only within the percentages underwritten. I see an undersubscrition but less than what was underwriten. which means all rights applied for will be allocated leaving some small portion to be taken by the undewriters. Innovator, you are correct in the narrations. I doubt if we will having massive undersubsciption in KPLC rights. We might are unlikely to get undersubscritpion below 85% given that a reasonable chunk of the government rights were bought during the last days. The remaining should be allocated to people who applied for extra rights. The underwiters will not spend much money.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,011 Location: nairobi
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what is the minimum time equity and centum suppose to hold on the shares they will buy during underwriting
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/26/2006 Posts: 439 Location: CENTRAL PROVINCE
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The rights involved 488M shares of which the GoK owned about 70%(341M). The GoK was able to trade about 160M of this rights (roughly about 47%). Assuing that the traded rights will all be paid up for, then the GoK quota is fully subscribed for as the other 50% had been underwritten by Centum and Equity bank. That leaves the other 147M shares (the other 30% of the rights).I anticipate at least 120-130M of these shares will be fully subscribed for.
I anticipate less than 25M shares will be unsubscribed for thus a subscription rate of about 95% (5% undersubscription).
The higher the quantity of shares underwritten by the 2 underwritters the better for the sake of KPLC share stability.
Happy hunting.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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Whoever offered to buy me bia if KPLC is over-subscribed... get your wallets out!!!! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,075
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VituVingiSana wrote:Whoever offered to buy me bia if KPLC is over-subscribed... get your wallets out!!!! Why, what do you know?
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Rank: User Joined: 5/9/2010 Posts: 1,418 Location: Nai
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VituVingiSana , can say anything . after all he owns the stock.he doesnt even have the actual report ! Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,561
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I still hope the subscription level will be around 90%. I need to get all the additional rights I applied for. No refunds for me please! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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VituVingiSana wrote:Whoever offered to buy me bia if KPLC is over-subscribed... get your wallets out!!!! What a way to announce that your back. Karibu! GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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Back from vacation... Now who were the nay-sayers? Who offered to buy me some cold ones? Results expected between 6-12 Jan... My broker is confident that the totals will be great [based on their own submissions] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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VituVingiSana wrote:Whoever offered to buy me bia if KPLC is over-subscribed... get your wallets out!!!! May I suggest we congregate at the Coffee Bar, Grand Imperial Kampala so that @guru can also imbibe with us? Nile Special.....
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Rank: User Joined: 5/9/2010 Posts: 1,418 Location: Nai
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vvs thats your broker . kwani everbody bought and sold the rights through your broker.....i am putting it at 90% subscription rate at best !!!!!!!!!!!! Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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qw25041985 wrote:vvs thats your broker . kwani everbody bought and sold the rights through your broker.....i am putting it at 90% subscription rate at best !!!!!!!!!!!! Put your money where your mouth is... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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And the stock is forging ahead, pricewise, with ,supply at a paltry 7,900 at 24 against a total supply of 205,800. I reckon this stock shall be our new year gift! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,215 Location: Nairobi
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:And the stock is forging ahead, pricewise, with ,supply at a paltry 7,900 at 24 against a total supply of 205,800. I reckon this stock shall be our new year gift! I think you mean DEMAND for 205,800 shares... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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