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mwekez@ji
#541 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:37:44 AM
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Yesterdays trading was a short 1hr 15mins with price manipulation by Faida. I doubt whether Faida mboys will be able to manipulate the market today. Lower low will print!
King G
#542 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:32:16 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Yesterdays trading was a short 1hr 15mins with price manipulation by Faida. I doubt whether Faida mboys will be able to manipulate the market today. Lower low will print!



Despite yesterday's manipulation by 1 big boy, the share has started drifting towards wanjiku's affordability levels. Can have additional at levels below 4 bob nothing more. Let us wait and see if the mbus will behave.
Thieves
Hunderwear
#543 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:49:05 AM
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what are the bids currently.I hear there is no demand
Kausha
#544 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:52:01 AM
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I am sure Faida and Kingdom securities will pitch with "demand" sooner or latter. Look and take this to the bank, this share will go the Britak way in another few months. Expect it at 2bob before close of year.
hisah
#545 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:01:38 AM
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Hunderwear wrote:
what are the bids currently.I hear there is no demand


total demand - 300,000
total supply - 2,426,500
Current VWAP - 4.85/-
Open - 5.25/-
High - 5/-
Low - 4.75/-
Down - 7.62%

Let us see how PPT will handle it as it approaches 3.50/- But due to the lack of significant volume, it should be easy for them to float it back above 5/- and create a floor at 4/-
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
PKoli
#546 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:01:58 AM
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Hunderwear wrote:
what are the bids currently.I hear there is no demand


No bidders, but there are 2.37m offers at 4.75!
the deal
#547 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:12:42 AM
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CIC is a unique insurance company thus it deserves to trade at a premium to the likes of Jubilee...but at the current price it has moved way ahead of fundamentals...4 bob is a good price!
maligumu
#548 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:21:59 AM
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Kausha wrote:
I am sure Faida and Kingdom securities will pitch with "demand" sooner or latter. Look and take this to the bank, this share will go the Britak way in another few months. Expect it at 2bob before close of year.


you can't armtwist Sir. Market and if you try he reacts with fury . We ar waiting for this stock hapa hapa jini . Take ua time .
Peace be with you
PKoli
#549 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:22:14 AM
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the deal wrote:
CIC is a unique insurance company thus it deserves to trade at a premium to the likes of Jubilee...but at the current price it has moved way ahead of fundamentals...4 bob is a good price!


@the deal,

Agreed, I will wait for it at 3.5 and hope some guys despair to sell it at 3!
PKoli
#550 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:28:29 AM
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Kausha wrote:
I am sure Faida and Kingdom securities will pitch with "demand" sooner or latter. Look and take this to the bank, this share will go the Britak way in another few months. Expect it at 2bob before close of year.


Two bob, I doubt, unless they record losses in their HY year results. I am sure the results will be exciting.
hisah
#551 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:43:27 AM
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PKoli wrote:
Kausha wrote:
I am sure Faida and Kingdom securities will pitch with "demand" sooner or latter. Look and take this to the bank, this share will go the Britak way in another few months. Expect it at 2bob before close of year.


Two bob, I doubt, unless they record losses in their HY year results. I am sure the results will be exciting.

I've also looked at their books from 2010 to their latest Q1 results. Not possible to sink it below 3/- unless euroland goes kaput ushering another nasty GFC. Also the scarcity of volume will make it less volatile. The next 2 weeks will indicate the market balance for the price.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
bartum
#552 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:26:13 PM
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also note that Q1 2012 pat was 457m vs 584m of FY 2011.thought still early.we can know Q2 performance when coop will be releasing theirs
PKoli
#553 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:33:17 PM
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bartum wrote:
also note that Q1 2012 pat was 457m vs 584m of FY 2011.thought still early.we can know Q2 performance when coop will be releasing theirs


i never saw those q1 results. were they comprehensive or newspaper reports?
Aguytrying
#554 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:48:39 PM
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2.50 is the maximum price i would pay for Cic. there's no such thing as a special share.
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PKoli
#555 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:10:24 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
2.50 is the maximum price i would pay for Cic. there's no such thing as a special share.

@Aguy,

Unless you do not want to own CIC, you might have to wait a little longer. Two stocks taught me a lesson;

1. ARM was trading at 28 and I said the maximum I can ever buy is at 26. I had a few but would have added a significant number. I watched it go to 64 and stagnate there for a while. I finally added some at 64. I offloaded at 120.

2. I was encouraged by a friend to buy equity bank, after listing at KES 135. The share was trading at 140 when I arrived at the brokers office at African Alliance, then upper hill. I was to buy about 20,000 shares. I felt 140 was too high and only bought 2,000 at 135 and cancelled the order for equity. Obviously equity went on to announce a bonus of 2 for every one. The 140 worth share went to 300. The rest as they say is history.
bartum
#556 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:18:55 PM
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PKoli wrote:
bartum wrote:
also note that Q1 2012 pat was 457m vs 584m of FY 2011.thought still early.we can know Q2 performance when coop will be releasing theirs


i never saw those q1 results. were they comprehensive or newspaper reports?

it apears in coop bank Q1 results as share of associate.
bartum
#557 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:26:51 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
2.50 is the maximum price i would pay for Cic. there's no such thing as a special share.

@Aguy,

Unless you do not want to won CIC, you might have to wait a little longer. Two stocks taught me a lesson;

1. ARM was trading at 28 and I said the maximum I can ever buy is at 26. I had a few but would have added a significant number. I watched it go to 64 and stagnate there for a while. I finally added some at 64. I offloaded at 120.

2. I was encouraged by a friend to buy equity bank, after listing at KES 135. The share was trading at 140 when I arrived at the brokers office at African Alliance, then upper hill. I was to buy about 20,000 shares. I felt 140 was too high and only bought 2,000 at 135 and cancelled the order for equity. Obviously equity went on to announce a bonus of 2 for every one. The 140 worth share went to 300. The rest as they say is history.

learning the hard way
BGL
#558 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:38:50 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
2.50 is the maximum price i would pay for Cic. there's no such thing as a special share.

@Aguy,

Unless you do not want to own CIC, you might have to wait a little longer. Two stocks taught me a lesson;

1. ARM was trading at 28 and I said the maximum I can ever buy is at 26. I had a few but would have added a significant number. I watched it go to 64 and stagnate there for a while. I finally added some at 64. I offloaded at 120.

2. I was encouraged by a friend to buy equity bank, after listing at KES 135. The share was trading at 140 when I arrived at the brokers office at African Alliance, then upper hill. I was to buy about 20,000 shares. I felt 140 was too high and only bought 2,000 at 135 and cancelled the order for equity. Obviously equity went on to announce a bonus of 2 for every one. The 140 worth share went to 300. The rest as they say is history.


They also split it 1 to 10
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Aguytrying
#559 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:49:56 PM
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@pkoli. u are right im not keen on owning cic hence my low price. if i was i would lock it.in at.a much higher price .
tough experiences u had.
i was once left by dtb and i know. if one decides on a share. even paying 5% more than target is ok.
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mwekez@ji
#560 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:58:37 PM
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Price discovery on this counter is ON. Anything goes, even the 2.50 call by @Aguy or the 2.00 call by @yaser
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