cyclical bulls last from 2-7yrs in a secular bear...we could say we're in the middle right now.

I dont think we are going to visit the 2009 march lows again...for that to happen a panic(20%+ in a matter of weeks) has to occur...a panic occurs in the middle of a bear market(30%+ decline) driving prices 50%+ down.

It is clear we're not in a bear so there can be no panic considering theres a lot of money waiting on the sidelines.

A crash(20% decline in a matter of days)occurs at the peak of a bull....considering the fact that this bull is pretty young(barely a year n a half old) that is not likely gonna happen right now as the shortest cyclical bulls lasted 2yrs.

The market may rally 1000pts to 2007 range which is the tradeable range of this bull after climbing the "wall of worry" for a few months and then when most people are fully invested ie no sideline cash...the great secular bear begins(around mid 2011-2016)...the trick is whether one will spot it...lots of volumes with no further progress(remember 2007)

Remember the markets are never wrong opinions often are...well this is just an opinion...but if one is the student of market valuations there is no way the current p/e of 20+ for the S&P is sustainable for even a decade.

@Guru

I have been reading a great book by robert shiller called IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE.
Below is a relationship between earnings and prices.
The prices are running far ahead of earnings more than they ever did in this century......click on the graphs especially the one of p/e ratio as a predictor of 20yr returns.

http://www.google.com/ur...2=6WawqYXXJnXz8-kvl74wAQ

I dont think growth of 50% growth will hold.....the normal growth of big US co.s is around 7-10%...considering the greatest growth occurs within 2 yrs from a bear,the time for big profits is nearly up and the high valuations may not hold for long.

historically around 14.7 trailing....before the beginning of great secular bulls the market has sold briefly for a trailing p/e 7 which is half fair value!!

Frontier markets reap from euro crisis www.businessdailyafrica....44/-/hh8d0s/-/index.html

This is last week's equity movement insider sellers vs buyers of the stocks listed on S&P500. The Oracle and Google corp sells are eye popping.

Does NSE have such records on daily basis?

http://www.zerohedge.com...ing-buying-update-1169-1

@hisah. Jim Sinclair, martin armstrong. I have been meaning to read all there stuff but can't find the time. Keep posting. I'm learning so much from you.

And just to get off topic...do people have meat futures...apparently they now have meat that doesn't get bad quickly. lol. Actually reminds me of the movie Food Inc and The Corporation. Amazing what American's will put in their bodies.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/...mposition-for-six-months

@hisah. eehh "meat candy lollipops"...that's messed up dawg.

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