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Breaking News: Two dead in Likoni Gun attack
guru267
#271 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:47:05 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
To the two alshabaab sympathisers, we all know your boys were already causing mayhem before KDF went into Somalia. And for argument's sake, let's assume Kenya was wrong to go into Somalia and to participate in Amisom. But where does Makaburi and Co come in? All those coastal extremist Muslims, what's their interest? Are they all Somalis?


I want to re iterate that I do not condone the killing of civilians in war from either sides....

If you want to know how coastal extremists feel that they are involved in this google the word "UMMAH"!!

The current attacks on civilians will not be wished away with "shoot to kill" orders on Muslims!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mawinder
#272 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:06:02 PM
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Joined: 4/30/2008
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guru267 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
To the two alshabaab sympathisers, we all know your boys were already causing mayhem before KDF went into Somalia. And for argument's sake, let's assume Kenya was wrong to go into Somalia and to participate in Amisom. But where does Makaburi and Co come in? All those coastal extremist Muslims, what's their interest? Are they all Somalis?


I want to re iterate that I do not condone the killing of civilians in war from either sides....

If you want to know how coastal extremists feel that they are involved in this google the word "UMMAH"!!

The current attacks on civilians will not be wished away with "shoot to kill" orders on Muslims!

Link to substantiate your claims and how come Aden Duale has not been shot?
kollabo
#273 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:35:27 PM
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Joined: 2/3/2012
Posts: 1,317
Alai reporting that Kenyan neurosurgeons will not touch the boys head. Satrine to live with the bullet in his head.
McReggae
#274 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:37:25 PM
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mawinder wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
To the two alshabaab sympathisers, we all know your boys were already causing mayhem before KDF went into Somalia. And for argument's sake, let's assume Kenya was wrong to go into Somalia and to participate in Amisom. But where does Makaburi and Co come in? All those coastal extremist Muslims, what's their interest? Are they all Somalis?


I want to re iterate that I do not condone the killing of civilians in war from either sides....

If you want to know how coastal extremists feel that they are involved in this google the word "UMMAH"!!

The current attacks on civilians will not be wished away with "shoot to kill" orders on Muslims!

Link to substantiate your claims and how come Aden Duale has not been shot?


How do you think they convince those terrorists to go out and kill......they make such outragious claims!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
guru267
#275 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:07:11 PM
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We have a reason to be rattled... I remember all to well what happened to innocent Kikuyu young men when the 'shoot to kill' order was given on Mungiki!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Mtu Biz
#276 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:26:00 PM
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Ambassadors of peace.

Sola Scriptura


Um Sayala
#277 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:33:04 PM
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Location: Sudan
McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
To the two alshabaab sympathisers, we all know your boys were already causing mayhem before KDF went into Somalia. And for argument's sake, let's assume Kenya was wrong to go into Somalia and to participate in Amisom. But where does Makaburi and Co come in? All those coastal extremist Muslims, what's their interest? Are they all Somalis?


I want to re iterate that I do not condone the killing of civilians in war from either sides....

If you want to know how coastal extremists feel that they are involved in this google the word "UMMAH"!!

The current attacks on civilians will not be wished away with "shoot to kill" orders on Muslims!

Link to substantiate your claims and how come Aden Duale has not been shot?



So the Shoot to kill orders were for Muslims...and not terrorists. I see. Ama hakuna tafauti? @guru267
"Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
AlphDoti
#278 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:41:23 PM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mtu Biz wrote:

@Alphadoti..

If guru or yourself were to mumble the most subtle critique against makaburi's words.. that would have been enough for me to think a bit differently...

Let me give you an example... if you would have posted something like

"What makaburi said on TV the other day is very unfortunate and does not at all represent what the islamic faith is about"

The problem is, you cannot say this because... you agree with him.

I have told you again and again that I don't support killing of any innocent people or civilians, whether Muslim or Christian or Hindu or atheist. It is wrong 1001x!

I have told you that Makaburi is complaining of harassment by the forces with allegation of terrorism. He has been complaining from the time Abud Rogo was executed.

I have also told you that there is no evidence that Abud Rogo recruited anybody to Al-shabaab.
Only allegations based on a story done by the Mzungu on CNN, as was mentioned in his website http://www.intelligencebriefs.com.

Abud Rogo was arrested and later released without charges because there were no concrete evidence.
Then they went killed him a dogs infront of his wife. You want me to lie to you ans that is okay? It is very, very wrong.

Why are these security forces targeting the Muslims for harassment, illegal arrests, detention and killing?

Why is a government with laws and judiciary bypassing the normal rules of evidence?

Why is the government adopting presumption of Guilt just on the basis of mere suspicion of involvement in terrorism? This is violation of the principle of non-discrimination and fair trial standards.

Now, you want us to keep quiet? No Muslims are not going to keep quiet, they are no guilty just because they are Muslims.

Now they want to kill Abud Rogo's teenage son. What does he know? They couldn't find anything on the father. If he is not innocent, then what is innocence in your language? But you celebrate. Because it is not your own son. Because it is not your daughter.

In short, Makaburi and many other Muslims are saying why don't you arrest law breakers, take them to court and charge them of the said offense?
Mtu Biz
#279 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:46:17 PM
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Posts: 1,320
AlphDoti wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:

@Alphadoti..

If guru or yourself were to mumble the most subtle critique against makaburi's words.. that would have been enough for me to think a bit differently...

Let me give you an example... if you would have posted something like

"What makaburi said on TV the other day is very unfortunate and does not at all represent what the islamic faith is about"

The problem is, you cannot say this because... you agree with him.

I have told you again and again that I don't support killing of any innocent people or civilians, whether Muslim or Christian or Hindu or atheist. It is wrong 1001x!

I have told you that Makaburi is complaining of harassment by the forces with allegation of terrorism. He has been complaining from the time Abud Rogo was executed.

I have also told you that there is no evidence that Abud Rogo recruited anybody to Al-shabaab.
Only allegations based on a story done by the Mzungu on CNN, as was mentioned in his website http://www.intelligencebriefs.com.

Abud Rogo was arrested and later released without charges because there were no concrete evidence.
Then they went killed him a dogs infront of his wife. You want me to lie to you ans that is okay? It is very, very wrong.

Why are these security forces targeting the Muslims for harassment, illegal arrests, detention and killing?

Why is a government with laws and judiciary bypassing the normal rules of evidence?

Why is the government adopting presumption of Guilt just on the basis of mere suspicion of involvement in terrorism? This is violation of the principle of non-discrimination and fair trial standards.

Now, you want us to keep quiet? No Muslims are not going to keep quiet, they are no guilty just because they are Muslims.

Now they want to kill Abud Rogo's teenage son. What does he know? They couldn't find anything on the father. If he is not innocent, then what is innocence in your language? But you celebrate. Because it is not your own son. Because it is not your daughter.

In short, Makaburi and many other Muslims are saying why don't you arrest law breakers, take them to court and charge them of the said offense?


Ok.

So given what you have stated above do you concur with makaburi that the attack on westgate was justified ?


Please yes or no.
Sola Scriptura


AlphDoti
#280 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:46:45 PM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Um Sayala wrote:
McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
To the two alshabaab sympathisers, we all know your boys were already causing mayhem before KDF went into Somalia. And for argument's sake, let's assume Kenya was wrong to go into Somalia and to participate in Amisom. But where does Makaburi and Co come in? All those coastal extremist Muslims, what's their interest? Are they all Somalis?

I want to re iterate that I do not condone the killing of civilians in war from either sides....

If you want to know how coastal extremists feel that they are involved in this google the word "UMMAH"!!

The current attacks on civilians will not be wished away with "shoot to kill" orders on Muslims!

Link to substantiate your claims and how come Aden Duale has not been shot?

So the Shoot to kill orders were for Muslims...and not terrorists. I see. Ama hakuna tafauti? @guru267

You tell us. Do you know the person who committed the Likoni crime? Does @McRaggae know? Does @mawinder know? Does @guka know? But who are they all accusing already? They are already pointing fingers and you can see the mentality. So asking that questions is a mockery.
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