wazua Sun, Mar 22, 2026
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

303 Pages«<266267268269270>»
Law Capping interest rates
FRM2011
#2671 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2018 3:48:02 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Is it true the CS has defied parliament on fuel VAT?very soon the rate cap will be defied

Unlikely


If he goes down that road he can also "defy" robinhood tax vote.PORK may be forced to axe him when "Rotich must go" demos begin.He'll end up being a sacrifical lamb.


You cannot impeach someone for implementing the law. KRA has already issued a statement. Legally, both Rotich and KRA are right. The last extension in 2016 had a very specific date on the VAT Act. The effective date was 1st Sept 2018. Until the president assents to the new amendment done this week, the VAT on petroleum products takes effect today.

I think the plan is to make sure the new prices take effect. Knowing Kenyans, they will make noise for a day or two and then move on. The president might return the bill to parliament and read the riot act to his minions. None of them has balls to say no to what the president says.
aemathenge
#2672 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2018 4:34:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
FRM2011 wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Is it true the CS has defied parliament on fuel VAT?very soon the rate cap will be defied

Unlikely


If he goes down that road he can also "defy" robinhood tax vote.PORK may be forced to axe him when "Rotich must go" demos begin.He'll end up being a sacrifical lamb.


You cannot impeach someone for implementing the law. KRA has already issued a statement. Legally, both Rotich and KRA are right. The last extension in 2016 had a very specific date on the VAT Act. The effective date was 1st Sept 2018. Until the president assents to the new amendment done this week, the VAT on petroleum products takes effect today.

I think the plan is to make sure the new prices take effect. Knowing Kenyans, they will make noise for a day or two and then move on. The president might return the bill to parliament and read the riot act to his minions. None of them has balls to say no to what the president says.

Word.
whiteowl
#2673 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2018 5:01:50 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/16/2014
Posts: 1,420
Location: Bohemian Grove
FRM2011 wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Is it true the CS has defied parliament on fuel VAT?very soon the rate cap will be defied

Unlikely


If he goes down that road he can also "defy" robinhood tax vote.PORK may be forced to axe him when "Rotich must go" demos begin.He'll end up being a sacrifical lamb.


You cannot impeach someone for implementing the law. KRA has already issued a statement. Legally, both Rotich and KRA are right. The last extension in 2016 had a very specific date on the VAT Act. The effective date was 1st Sept 2018. Until the president assents to the new amendment done this week, the VAT on petroleum products takes effect today.

I think the plan is to make sure the new prices take effect. Knowing Kenyans, they will make noise for a day or two and then move on. The president might return the bill to parliament and read the riot act to his minions. None of them has balls to say no to what the president says.


Mps and DPORK are up for reelection,PORK isnt.This will be a matter of self preservation.
obiero
#2674 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2018 6:01:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
whiteowl wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Is it true the CS has defied parliament on fuel VAT?very soon the rate cap will be defied

Unlikely


If he goes down that road he can also "defy" robinhood tax vote.PORK may be forced to axe him when "Rotich must go" demos begin.He'll end up being a sacrifical lamb.


You cannot impeach someone for implementing the law. KRA has already issued a statement. Legally, both Rotich and KRA are right. The last extension in 2016 had a very specific date on the VAT Act. The effective date was 1st Sept 2018. Until the president assents to the new amendment done this week, the VAT on petroleum products takes effect today.

I think the plan is to make sure the new prices take effect. Knowing Kenyans, they will make noise for a day or two and then move on. The president might return the bill to parliament and read the riot act to his minions. None of them has balls to say no to what the president says.


Mps and DPORK are up for reelection,PORK isnt.This will be a matter of self preservation.

The government is broken and broke.. Trust me. The fuel levy shall stay

KQ ABP 4.26
Pesa Nane
#2675 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2018 8:37:56 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Allow me to rephrase my queries.

As a publicly quoted bank shareholder watching my "wealth" slither away because Mpigs won't play "ball", what should I demand of directors and management in their handling of the Mpigs?

What should Kenya Bankers Association's next move be?

The stumbling block between "wealth" creation and banking shareholders is Mpigs. What is the panacea?


banks are profitable,the price will recover

Music to my ears.

@mlennyma.. Which small banks are profitable? Sidian? NBK? Family? BoA? Ecobank? KBA has no role in this debate. They are spectators just like us.. Only big banks will survive and thrive

tier 1 listed banks,all unlisted banks can die no problem

And the way the UNAITASes are running towards that bank status??!!
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
enyands
#2676 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2018 8:49:57 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
Pesa Nane wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Allow me to rephrase my queries.

As a publicly quoted bank shareholder watching my "wealth" slither away because Mpigs won't play "ball", what should I demand of directors and management in their handling of the Mpigs?

What should Kenya Bankers Association's next move be?

The stumbling block between "wealth" creation and banking shareholders is Mpigs. What is the panacea?


banks are profitable,the price will recover

Music to my ears.

@mlennyma.. Which small banks are profitable? Sidian? NBK? Family? BoA? Ecobank? KBA has no role in this debate. They are spectators just like us.. Only big banks will survive and thrive

tier 1 listed banks,all unlisted banks can die no problem

And the way the UNAITASes are running towards that bank status??!!


how far are they from being a bank ?
obiero
#2677 Posted : Wednesday, September 05, 2018 2:03:51 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
winmak wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
obiero wrote:
Quote verbatim in today's daily "Government lending up.The CBK data also shows that while private sector credit growth has fallen, banks have significantly increased their lending to government.
Credit to government grew 7.1 per cent on an annualised basis at the end of March, recovering from negative growth in the second half of 2016.
Credit to other public sector borrowers such as parastatals and local (county) government units grew by 28.3 per cent in the period." Full link http://www.businessdaily...993596-jvq3rx/index.html


The making of a Greek tragedy. Private sector recession versus public sector big appetite. It never ends well but still early days.

The free secondary education policy promise will be the end of us. GoK already asking for additional 4.8B via makiba II http://www.businessdaily...93800-t30u03/index.html

It was written kenya becomes greece https://citizentv.co.ke/...-kenya-is-broke-192961/


I hope these govt pays our mAkiba2 on 11th. ION, how does a Wanjiku protect oneself from a Greek meltdown? change money to forex? reduce liquidity to fixed assets? which assets best withstand a depression?


We are still in the early days so don't worry govt will pay MAkiba. We still have favourable winds i.e. the dollar is still in weakening phase, US inflation still yet to pick up. The fan is just warming up.

For wanjiku the thing is to stay in touch with your rural folks they become a source of cheap food once inflation picks up. I reckon stocks will hedge against inflation better than forex.

Stocks simply reprice to keep up with inflation they do not however change a bear into a bull when a currency depreciates. Coupled with the expected dry out of inflows into a currency that is losing ground, the NSE will be in winter season.


Agreed. The repricing is really what will keep food on the table for a middle class wanjiku. There are no fundamentals for a bull run electricity and cement consumption growth rates already show weakness.

Kaza mishipi na chunga mifuko

Kaza mishipi na chunga mifuko

KQ ABP 4.26
aemathenge
#2678 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:01:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
Copy and Paste Extract:

Quote:
Hope for banks as Rotich says interest cap will be revisited

National Treasury Cabinet Secretary Henry Rotich has announced that the government is planning to “revisit” the interest rate capping law in a move that he argues will support economic growth by reviving lending to the private sector.

If introduced and adopted by the National Assembly, the changes to the Banking Act will boost the profitability of banks.


https://www.nation.co.ke...67642-3lt8qs/index.html
Ericsson
#2679 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:08:16 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
winmak wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
obiero wrote:
Quote verbatim in today's daily "Government lending up.The CBK data also shows that while private sector credit growth has fallen, banks have significantly increased their lending to government.
Credit to government grew 7.1 per cent on an annualised basis at the end of March, recovering from negative growth in the second half of 2016.
Credit to other public sector borrowers such as parastatals and local (county) government units grew by 28.3 per cent in the period." Full link http://www.businessdaily...993596-jvq3rx/index.html


The making of a Greek tragedy. Private sector recession versus public sector big appetite. It never ends well but still early days.

The free secondary education policy promise will be the end of us. GoK already asking for additional 4.8B via makiba II http://www.businessdaily...93800-t30u03/index.html

It was written kenya becomes greece https://citizentv.co.ke/...-kenya-is-broke-192961/


I hope these govt pays our mAkiba2 on 11th. ION, how does a Wanjiku protect oneself from a Greek meltdown? change money to forex? reduce liquidity to fixed assets? which assets best withstand a depression?


We are still in the early days so don't worry govt will pay MAkiba. We still have favourable winds i.e. the dollar is still in weakening phase, US inflation still yet to pick up. The fan is just warming up.

For wanjiku the thing is to stay in touch with your rural folks they become a source of cheap food once inflation picks up. I reckon stocks will hedge against inflation better than forex.

Stocks simply reprice to keep up with inflation they do not however change a bear into a bull when a currency depreciates. Coupled with the expected dry out of inflows into a currency that is losing ground, the NSE will be in winter season.


Agreed. The repricing is really what will keep food on the table for a middle class wanjiku. There are no fundamentals for a bull run electricity and cement consumption growth rates already show weakness.

Kaza mishipi na chunga mifuko

Kaza mishipi na chunga mifuko


Already indications are that Rotich will fail to hit the targets on the memorandum.
Things are gonna get worse.
Moi's regime will look like a joke
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#2680 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2018 6:18:49 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
winmak wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
obiero wrote:
Quote verbatim in today's daily "Government lending up.The CBK data also shows that while private sector credit growth has fallen, banks have significantly increased their lending to government.
Credit to government grew 7.1 per cent on an annualised basis at the end of March, recovering from negative growth in the second half of 2016.
Credit to other public sector borrowers such as parastatals and local (county) government units grew by 28.3 per cent in the period." Full link http://www.businessdaily...993596-jvq3rx/index.html


The making of a Greek tragedy. Private sector recession versus public sector big appetite. It never ends well but still early days.

The free secondary education policy promise will be the end of us. GoK already asking for additional 4.8B via makiba II http://www.businessdaily...93800-t30u03/index.html

It was written kenya becomes greece https://citizentv.co.ke/...-kenya-is-broke-192961/


I hope these govt pays our mAkiba2 on 11th. ION, how does a Wanjiku protect oneself from a Greek meltdown? change money to forex? reduce liquidity to fixed assets? which assets best withstand a depression?


We are still in the early days so don't worry govt will pay MAkiba. We still have favourable winds i.e. the dollar is still in weakening phase, US inflation still yet to pick up. The fan is just warming up.

For wanjiku the thing is to stay in touch with your rural folks they become a source of cheap food once inflation picks up. I reckon stocks will hedge against inflation better than forex.

Stocks simply reprice to keep up with inflation they do not however change a bear into a bull when a currency depreciates. Coupled with the expected dry out of inflows into a currency that is losing ground, the NSE will be in winter season.


Agreed. The repricing is really what will keep food on the table for a middle class wanjiku. There are no fundamentals for a bull run electricity and cement consumption growth rates already show weakness.

Kaza mishipi na chunga mifuko

Kaza mishipi na chunga mifuko


Already indications are that Rotich will fail to hit the targets on the memorandum.
Things are gonna get worse.
Moi's regime will look like a joke

It would make divine sense to suspend the big four agenda

KQ ABP 4.26
303 Pages«<266267268269270>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2026 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.