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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#2661 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:16:38 AM
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Negative Shareholders Equity of 33bn. Let's put that into perspective. KQ needs to make PAT of 3.3bn/year for 10 years before it gets to positive territory. 10 years.

What was the PAT for the BEST year that KQ had?

If you invest 5/- in KQ by buying shares of KQ vs 5/- in 13% (net of tax) IFB ... the IFB interest for 10 years = 7.50 (compounded interest) + 5/- principal = 12.50

Anyway, off to KK & KenRe I go.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2662 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:17:03 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,302
Location: nairobi
qw25041985 wrote:
Thanx God not all of us are maths genius. Coz if every kenya airways shareholder knew that operatin margin is massively down like this then the share wld be tradin at ksh 1.00. I side with @proverb. And i willnt get suprised if this share breaks its downward support level of ksh 50.00. Trappin those who bought at ksh 54.00 in losses. This is the time most of u will regret the herd mentallity at wazua.

blast from the past
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
obiero
#2663 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:26:48 AM
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Posts: 14,302
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
No more 20/-... already trading steady to up today with plenty of buyers ready at 50/-...

@vvs could you be related to @kalonzo.. you were ready to buy at 50/-.. but now you pillory your ex
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
VituVingiSana
#2664 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:43:56 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,368
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No more 20/-... already trading steady to up today with plenty of buyers ready at 50/-...

@vvs could you be related to @kalonzo.. you were ready to buy at 50/-.. but now you pillory your ex

I chose to leave the abusive relationship. Not even Friends with benefits! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Heck, even Warren Buffett chose to dump his airline holdings... And warned others not to enter into financial arrangements with gold diggers.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Boris Boyka
#2665 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:54:02 AM
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Joined: 11/15/2013
Posts: 1,977
Location: Here
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No more 20/-... already trading steady to up today with plenty of buyers ready at 50/-...

@vvs could you be related to @kalonzo.. you were ready to buy at 50/-.. but now you pillory your ex

I chose to leave the abusive relationship. Not even Friends with benefits! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Heck, even Warren Buffett chose to dump his airline holdings... And warned others not to enter into financial arrangements with gold diggers.

This is an enjoyable battle after the @obiero vs @WAI 254Guru battle stopped prematurely!
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
obiero
#2666 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:12:25 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,302
Location: nairobi
Boris Boyka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No more 20/-... already trading steady to up today with plenty of buyers ready at 50/-...

@vvs could you be related to @kalonzo.. you were ready to buy at 50/-.. but now you pillory your ex

I chose to leave the abusive relationship. Not even Friends with benefits! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Heck, even Warren Buffett chose to dump his airline holdings... And warned others not to enter into financial arrangements with gold diggers.

This is an enjoyable battle after the @obiero vs @WAI 254Guru battle stopped prematurely!

@HAFR is trading at KES 1.30 headed lower.. It will be the first share to trade at less than a shilling at the NSE.. On KQ, @VVS was right to a given extent. It must not be assumed that I was not aware that my share had slide from an average buy price of KES 8.76. I was aware I was running a loss position and the portfolio was held constant at 63,800 shares since the full year results despite myself having copious amounts of cash.. Cowards live longer.. Tafakari hayo
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Boris Boyka
#2667 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:18:39 AM
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obiero wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No more 20/-... already trading steady to up today with plenty of buyers ready at 50/-...

@vvs could you be related to @kalonzo.. you were ready to buy at 50/-.. but now you pillory your ex

I chose to leave the abusive relationship. Not even Friends with benefits! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Heck, even Warren Buffett chose to dump his airline holdings... And warned others not to enter into financial arrangements with gold diggers.

This is an enjoyable battle after the @obiero vs @WAI 254Guru battle stopped prematurely!

@HAFR is trading at KES 1.30 headed lower.. It will be the first share to trade at less than a shilling at the NSE.. On KQ, @VVS was right to a given extent. It must not be assumed that I was not aware that my share had slide from an average buy price of KES 8.76. I was aware I was running a loss position and the portfolio was held constant at 63,800 shares since the full year results despite myself having copious amounts of cash.. Cowards live longer.. Tafakari hayo

Bravery is not a wise thing. I vividly recall the day you openly asked for advice on KQ, I told you I have bailed out at a loss but redirected the cash in other stocks which successfully covered for the loss. All wazuans advised quitting honourably but You stayed put; signs of a gambler.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
obiero
#2668 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:30:08 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,302
Location: nairobi
Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
No more 20/-... already trading steady to up today with plenty of buyers ready at 50/-...

@vvs could you be related to @kalonzo.. you were ready to buy at 50/-.. but now you pillory your ex

I chose to leave the abusive relationship. Not even Friends with benefits! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Heck, even Warren Buffett chose to dump his airline holdings... And warned others not to enter into financial arrangements with gold diggers.

This is an enjoyable battle after the @obiero vs @WAI 254Guru battle stopped prematurely!

@HAFR is trading at KES 1.30 headed lower.. It will be the first share to trade at less than a shilling at the NSE.. On KQ, @VVS was right to a given extent. It must not be assumed that I was not aware that my share had slide from an average buy price of KES 8.76. I was aware I was running a loss position and the portfolio was held constant at 63,800 shares since the full year results despite myself having copious amounts of cash.. Cowards live longer.. Tafakari hayo

Bravery is not a wise thing. I vividly recall the day you openly asked for advice on KQ, I told you I have bailed out at a loss but redirected the cash in other stocks which successfully covered for the loss. All wazuans advised quitting honourably but You stayed put; signs of a gambler.

@Boris. Gambler is exactly the wrong word. Long term investor is preferable.. :) I didnt load up more. Otherwise, I woild be having a loss in excess of half a million. My portfolio in investment includes properties which are fairing well. I sold KQ in a bear hence making the loss look larger than necessary, but trust me I shall be back in this share.. Also remember, that inorder to make a gain in stock trading, someone else make make a loss. This time around, I am that someone :(
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Cde Monomotapa
#2669 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 11:22:13 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
VituVingiSana wrote:
Negative Shareholders Equity of 33bn. Let's put that into perspective. KQ needs to make PAT of 3.3bn/year for 10 years before it gets to positive territory. 10 years.

What was the PAT for the BEST year that KQ had?

If you invest 5/- in KQ by buying shares of KQ vs 5/- in 13% (net of tax) IFB ... the IFB interest for 10 years = 7.50 (compounded interest) + 5/- principal = 12.50

Anyway, off to KK & KenRe I go.


Laughing out loudly No. 1 fan. Shore up yourself and tell the children the Truth. As you are a holder of KK, how long did KK take to get out of doldrums? What did KK do as well? You make winning sweet..!

muandiwambeu
#2670 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 11:49:51 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
VituVingiSana wrote:
Negative Shareholders Equity of 33bn. Let's put that into perspective. KQ needs to make PAT of 3.3bn/year for 10 years before it gets to positive territory. 10 years.

What was the PAT for the BEST year that KQ had?

If you invest 5/- in KQ by buying shares of KQ vs 5/- in 13% (net of tax) IFB ... the IFB interest for 10 years = 7.50 (compounded interest) + 5/- principal = 12.50

Anyway, off to KK & KenRe I go.

@vvs am done with my weeks confessions but I must confess I have Brick wall and may you chew it down.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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