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Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. To Each His Own
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/23/2014 Posts: 931
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kayhara wrote:Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. It was market driven all along for both fuel and interest until parliament who are meant to be the peoples chosen voice took up the matter and passed laws to curtail over exploitation of their constituents. Note both the banks and fuel companies were either too arrogant, or didn't see like parliament had a say in this that they sat back and ignored calls from parliament for dialogue. “You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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kayhara wrote:Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. The only appeal is the IMF. But since Chinaman showed up on the scene, Christine Largade's mojo has been servery curtailed. P.S. Of course there is the President's veto too, but Uhuru is not going to risk his big 4 by starting a fight with Parliament - the Finance bill is usually an Omnibus (pass it all or reject it all). Can you see the headlines? "Uhuru rejects bill to save Banks." Plus the MP's already gave him his 16% VAT on fuel etc, despite the screams of Wanjiku. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2015 Posts: 249 Location: Nairobi
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kayhara wrote:Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. Unfortunately the executive(read kamwana) has the final say over this whole fiasco...the noisy mpigs are watching out for themselves,once the banksters prescribe "special" loan rates for them,wanjiku will be left out in the cold. Never lose your position in a bull market,BTFD.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/23/2014 Posts: 931
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mamilli wrote:kayhara wrote:Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. Unfortunately the executive(read kamwana) has the final say over this whole fiasco...the noisy mpigs are watching out for themselves,once the banksters prescribe "special" loan rates for them,wanjiku will be left out in the cold. These banks seem to forget that what they offer is a product that can either be bought or not. Its not a favor that they are offering us we pay cost plus profit(interest). If they don't sell their products then they lose,and are left with unsold products. They should not expect us to come pleading on our knees to buy from them. “You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,653
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HaMaina wrote:mamilli wrote:kayhara wrote:Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. Unfortunately the executive(read kamwana) has the final say over this whole fiasco...the noisy mpigs are watching out for themselves,once the banksters prescribe "special" loan rates for them,wanjiku will be left out in the cold. These banks seem to forget that what they offer is a product that can either be bought or not. Its not a favor that they are offering us we pay cost plus profit(interest). If they don't sell their products then they lose,and are left with unsold products. They should not expect us to come pleading on our knees to buy from them. The first and only product that banks offer is security of deposits. They are then allowed to leverage their own capital and the deposits to give out loans. Ask the Imperial bank depositors how they feel to have lifetime savings wiped out.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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HaMaina wrote:mamilli wrote:kayhara wrote:Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. Unfortunately the executive(read kamwana) has the final say over this whole fiasco...the noisy mpigs are watching out for themselves,once the banksters prescribe "special" loan rates for them,wanjiku will be left out in the cold. These banks seem to forget that what they offer is a product that can either be bought or not. Its not a favor that they are offering us we pay cost plus profit(interest). If they don't sell their products then they lose,and are left with unsold products. They should not expect us to come pleading on our knees to buy from them. Do you know who can teach the banks a lesson they will never forget ? The market. You may never know this but around year 2003, 91-day t-bill rate dropped to between 1-2%. Stanbic started lending @ 8%. I know its unfair to compare Kibaki to Jubilee or Jude Njomo, but still. Around the year 2000, BBK and Stanchart left what they decided were non-viable towns. Equity and Family Bank quickly moved into these towns. In several towns, Family bank took over BBK's premises as they were. They didn't even spend a shilling to renovate or paint (both share same corporate colour). Then Kibaki happened. You should see the kiosk that Barclays operates from in a town called Kerugoya after they came back tail betweens the legs. A few meters from them, Family bank roars from BBK's old premises. The market knows how to punish those who don't respond to the needs of their customers. As it is, banks are still making super profits, but we can't get loans.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Finance bill finally on the floor of the house. There are numerous amendments on the bill. Lets see how this goes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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FRM2011 wrote:HaMaina wrote:mamilli wrote:kayhara wrote:Is it parliament with the last word on this law or is there another avenue for repeal? in my opinion the rate cap, the fuel price and any other business price fixing should be left to the market to decide. Unfortunately the executive(read kamwana) has the final say over this whole fiasco...the noisy mpigs are watching out for themselves,once the banksters prescribe "special" loan rates for them,wanjiku will be left out in the cold. These banks seem to forget that what they offer is a product that can either be bought or not. Its not a favor that they are offering us we pay cost plus profit(interest). If they don't sell their products then they lose,and are left with unsold products. They should not expect us to come pleading on our knees to buy from them. Do you know who can teach the banks a lesson they will never forget ? The market. You may never know this but around year 2003, 91-day t-bill rate dropped to between 1-2%. Stanbic started lending @ 8%. I know its unfair to compare Kibaki to Jubilee or Jude Njomo, but still. Around the year 2000, BBK and Stanchart left what they decided were non-viable towns. Equity and Family Bank quickly moved into these towns. In several towns, Family bank took over BBK's premises as they were. They didn't even spend a shilling to renovate or paint (both share same corporate colour). Then Kibaki happened. You should see the kiosk that Barclays operates from in a town called Kerugoya after they came back tail betweens the legs. A few meters from them, Family bank roars from BBK's old premises. The market knows how to punish those who don't respond to the needs of their customers. As it is, banks are still making super profits, but we can't get loans. If government reduces borrowing,currency stabilises;lending rates will fall to single digits. Banks are still making super profits due to lending to government. How many staff and branches do you need to lend to government ksh.1bn? Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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FRM2011 wrote: Finance bill finally on the floor of the house. There are numerous amendments on the bill. Lets see how this goes.
Debate has started. Several amendments adopted. Seems this one on interest capping will not be among the agenda being discussed. Does it mean it passes the way it was originally presented by Rotich ?? I don't know but that would be a stroke of genius. Parliament is heading for recess. Meanwhile, distractions galore !! https://citizentv.co.ke/...irds-gender-rule-210910/
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