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hisah
#2601 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 7:38:19 PM
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[quote=hisah]Spanish CDS trend... I watched Greece bonds going vertical last year. This year, this is my chart pet...




Then see the 5yr chart (select the 5yr button) here - http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CSPA1U5:IND/chart[/quote]

Stated back on May 21 2012. That CDS rate is going to vertical from here!

Now how has the Spanish 10yr bond yield behaved so far! Well, you guessed it right, going vertical too. Greece all over again...



Spanish bonds, just like Sparta's bonds has just lost its breaks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pkf21Rjp2M


$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2602 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 7:41:54 PM
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Deleveraging spiral aka deflationary sink hole means euroland investment is no longer about return on capital, but return of capital!


Food price crisis feared as erratic weather wreaks havoc on crops - http://www.guardian.co.u...ce-crisis-weather-crops

Get ready for expensive food - mostly worse than 2011 price inflation...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
jonna
#2603 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 11:00:32 PM
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Location: united states of africa
karanjakinuthia
#2604 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:54:32 PM
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Joined: 11/13/2006
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Location: Nairobi
The first cut of the European Sovereign Debt Crisis is not remotely the deepest. 21 conferences later, a witches brew of austerity and band-aid bailouts, all the European Union has to show is a repeat of history which is depression. Japan post-1989 followed the same course whereby the private sector was subordinate to the public sector. The government did not want the stock market to fall and would not allow hedging. Banks, the largest holders of publicly traded stocks had to be bailed out as the same mantra of "Too Big To Fail" was sung by politicians. Sadly, this course of action resulted in a 23 year depression and counting. The invincible LDP party was ousted going to show that a disgruntled public will want the heads of politicians when times are hard.

Greece either defaults or continues on the path to the black hole of Calcutta.

"ATHENS (Reuters) - Greece is in a "Great Depression" similar to the American one in the 1930s, the country's Prime Minister Antonis Samaras told former U.S. President Bill Clinton on Sunday.

Samaras was speaking two days before a team of Greece's international lenders arrive in Athens to push for further cuts needed for the debt-laden country to qualify for further rescue payments and avoid a chaotic default..."

http://news.yahoo.com/gr...pression-123450025.html
youcan'tstopusnow
#2605 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:18:05 PM
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Location: Black Africa
Credit ratings agency
Moody's has changed its
outlook for Germany's
AAA credit rating to
negative, the first step
towards a possible
downgrade.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18963810

Germany? Baba yao?! Ala!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#2606 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:09:52 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Credit ratings agency
Moody's has changed its
outlook for Germany's
AAA credit rating to
negative, the first step
towards a possible
downgrade.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18963810

Germany? Baba yao?! Ala!


If you live in an apartment block and your neighbours' apartments are on fire, chances are that your apartment will also get smoked...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2607 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:13:00 PM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Tanzania: M-Pesa Transacts 1Trillion Shilling Monthly, Says Vodacom - http://allafrica.com/stories/201207230727.html

That is approx Ksh 52B in a month. I thought Tz was a slow country, but seems their adoptotion of M-pesa via Vodacom is going parabolic. At this rate, they will surpass the KE monthly M-pesa transfer.

How is SA (Vodacom) and UG (MTN mobile money) fairing?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
youcan'tstopusnow
#2608 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:03:10 PM
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Location: Black Africa
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
hisah wrote:
European bond yields still on a negative yield bonanza... That is bond investors are willing to pay euro gubberments to stash their money in those bonds!?

http://online.wsj.com/ar...577520480011435426.html

I dont get it? Africa gubberment bonds are positive and some double digit yields. Why take negative yields?! Yawa!


hisah, hiyo ndio inaitwa ujinga!

And why not just put the money under the mattresssmile


Ama it was just ignorance? This ought to help then:
Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) plans to introduce a FTSE-NSE bond index by
September, a move that will see the role of foreigners in the local bond market expand.
http://www.businessdaily...-/13chwqvz/-/index.html
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
youcan'tstopusnow
#2609 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:05:03 PM
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Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
hisah wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Credit ratings agency
Moody's has changed its
outlook for Germany's
AAA credit rating to
negative, the first step
towards a possible
downgrade.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18963810

Germany? Baba yao?! Ala!


If you live in an apartment block and your neighbours' apartments are on fire, chances are that your apartment will also get smoked...


smile
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
mnandii
#2610 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:29:07 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/11/2006
Posts: 2,304
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
hisah wrote:
European bond yields still on a negative yield bonanza... That is bond investors are willing to pay euro gubberments to stash their money in those bonds!?

http://online.wsj.com/ar...577520480011435426.html

I dont get it? Africa gubberment bonds are positive and some double digit yields. Why take negative yields?! Yawa!


hisah, hiyo ndio inaitwa ujinga!

And why not just put the money under the mattresssmile


In a depression Cash is King!
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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