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Kengen success
Realcement
#501 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:03:19 PM
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obiero wrote:
Realcement wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
What Hails gava firms. 3 bob and below club. Mumias, kq, Uchumi. KPLC despite all profits at 10.00. NBK one in same share price range with NIC now at 10. Eapc one at 100's now well below 50. Ken gen once 15 and above now 8 bob ( before right) It's sad and the writing is on the wall. I think this new regime is to blame for the most part. It might be easy to fool wanjiku but institutionals and big money will always know the truth


why wasn't this question asked when KQ traded at 126.. factoring the rights issue, KQ should not trade sub 24


ANSWER.....
Guys were NOT so enlightened then. Then everybody jumped to rights as buying opportunity not minding the price.

Besides CDSC was not in existence it was paper certificate so extremely DIFFICULT to buy in the market. The market was not as liquid as now.
Things have changed.
VituVingiSana
#502 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2016 8:01:06 AM
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Realcement wrote:
obiero wrote:
Realcement wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
What Hails gava firms. 3 bob and below club. Mumias, kq, Uchumi. KPLC despite all profits at 10.00. NBK one in same share price range with NIC now at 10. Eapc one at 100's now well below 50. Ken gen once 15 and above now 8 bob ( before right) It's sad and the writing is on the wall. I think this new regime is to blame for the most part. It might be easy to fool wanjiku but institutionals and big money will always know the truth


why wasn't this question asked when KQ traded at 126.. factoring the rights issue, KQ should not trade sub 24


ANSWER.....
Guys were NOT so enlightened then. Then everybody jumped to rights as buying opportunity not minding the price.

Besides CDSC was not in existence it was paper certificate so extremely DIFFICULT to buy in the market. The market was not as liquid as now.
Things have changed.
@VVS did not buy the KQ Rights. And sold the shares...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#503 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:53:49 AM
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Realcement wrote:
Meanwhile Kengen today prints 6.55, lowest in recent time and of course the rights price.


Not the lowest in RECENT times. It touched 5-5.50 just before they announced rights.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Plimsoul
#504 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:29:30 PM
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In today's Standard:

Kengen Board Chairman: Kengen will need Sh 1 trillion to add 2,500MW to the national grid.

And we thought Sh 28 bn was a lot.
mkate_nusu
#505 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:06:32 AM
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Plimsoul wrote:
In today's Standard:

Kengen Board Chairman: Kengen will need Sh 1 trillion to add 2,500MW to the national grid.

And we thought Sh 28 bn was a lot.


Another rights in a few years. same cycle
KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
Cornelius Vanderbilt
#506 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:31:50 AM
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Plimsoul wrote:
In today's Standard:

Kengen Board Chairman: Kengen will need Sh 1 trillion to add 2,500MW to the national grid.

And we thought Sh 28 bn was a lot.


asking 28bn in a bear market, lol.
Plimsoul
#507 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:20:44 AM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
Plimsoul wrote:
In today's Standard:

Kengen Board Chairman: Kengen will need Sh 1 trillion to add 2,500MW to the national grid.

And we thought Sh 28 bn was a lot.


asking 28bn in a bear market, lol.


Actually did really well, given market conditions. Hit 92% of their target, which is insanely successful.
mlennyma
#508 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:35:06 AM
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Plimsoul wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
Plimsoul wrote:
In today's Standard:

Kengen Board Chairman: Kengen will need Sh 1 trillion to add 2,500MW to the national grid.

And we thought Sh 28 bn was a lot.


asking 28bn in a bear market, lol.


Actually did really well, given market conditions. Hit 92% of their target, which is insanely successful.

iam not touching stocks hungry for capital unless they fall to 4 and below
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mlennyma
#509 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:10:22 PM
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The massacre has began 6 has printed and demand is showing signs of drying to 0,i can still recall one lady here saying kengen at 6.55 is a steal
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
streetwise
#510 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:22:32 PM
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Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams
sparkly
#511 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:29:14 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams


What is your share of choice?
Life is short. Live passionately.
mlennyma
#512 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:37:44 PM
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streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams

An exercise where the government was smart not to spend a coin in cash.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
sparkly
#513 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:09:56 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams

An exercise where the government was smart not to spend a coin in cash.



Not true.

Treasury borrowed monies from development partners at concessionary rates and on-lend to Kengen. Kengen was servicing interest on the on-lend amounts to Treasury.
Life is short. Live passionately.
mlennyma
#514 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:12:29 PM
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sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams

An exercise where the government was smart not to spend a coin in cash.



Not true.

Treasury borrowed monies from development partners at concessionary rates and on-lend to Kengen. Kengen was servicing interest on the on-lend amounts to Treasury.

thank you for being the few who trust the government
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Realcement
#515 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:29:47 PM
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Lets watch post listing price drop between August to October.
It will get far cheaper than HIGH rights price of 6.55 due to general bearish atmosphere building up to election 2017.
Watch out for kengen in 4 to 5 bob range.
obiero
#516 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:20:50 PM
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enyands wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
opted to offload today at 6.90

why?


Obiero is someone you will never understand. He will swim against the current, he will sprint when people are running and crawl when people are sprinting .

He will inform you he sold kengen to buy more kq ...wait and see

Try and understand that I trade on insider information. I stay atleast 2 weeks ahead of most. Sometimes, months ahead depending on the firm

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#517 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:32:49 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams

An exercise where the government was smart not to spend a coin in cash.



Not true.

Treasury borrowed monies from development partners at concessionary rates and on-lend to Kengen. Kengen was servicing interest on the on-lend amounts to Treasury.

thank you for being the few who trust the government


I actually didn't trust the government. But I am willing to stick my neck out where the general market mood is too fearful. My target is 150% upside.
Life is short. Live passionately.
mlennyma
#518 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:43:52 PM
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sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams

An exercise where the government was smart not to spend a coin in cash.



Not true.

Treasury borrowed monies from development partners at concessionary rates and on-lend to Kengen. Kengen was servicing interest on the on-lend amounts to Treasury.

thank you for being the few who trust the government


I actually didn't trust the government. But I am willing to stick my neck out where the general market mood is too fearful. My target is 150% upside.

my only dispute is that the market will offer a better discount than the rights which could have made you richer than you will be,we are seeing this happening earlier than expected
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
sparkly
#519 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:47:41 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams

An exercise where the government was smart not to spend a coin in cash.



Not true.

Treasury borrowed monies from development partners at concessionary rates and on-lend to Kengen. Kengen was servicing interest on the on-lend amounts to Treasury.

thank you for being the few who trust the government


I actually didn't trust the government. But I am willing to stick my neck out where the general market mood is too fearful. My target is 150% upside.

my only dispute is that the market will offer a better discount than the rights which could have made you richer than you will be,no doubt you will make some money


Inshallah. I await Mr. markets Discount's. I have set aside some cash for more Kengen at 5-6 and Equity 30-35.
Life is short. Live passionately.
mlennyma
#520 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:50:04 PM
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sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
streetwise wrote:
Kengen right will proof to have been a rip off one day.

There is little you expect from this share unless you want to count the rate of increase of dams

An exercise where the government was smart not to spend a coin in cash.



Not true.

Treasury borrowed monies from development partners at concessionary rates and on-lend to Kengen. Kengen was servicing interest on the on-lend amounts to Treasury.

thank you for being the few who trust the government


I actually didn't trust the government. But I am willing to stick my neck out where the general market mood is too fearful. My target is 150% upside.

my only dispute is that the market will offer a better discount than the rights which could have made you richer than you will be,no doubt you will make some money


Inshallah. I await Mr. markets Discount's. I have set aside some cash for more Kengen at 5-6 and Equity 30-35.

it's however not a big deal for Kengen to clock 15-20 in a bull market
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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