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Coop Bank 2019 and beyond
DtheK
#251 Posted : Tuesday, February 27, 2024 3:09:05 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 2/15/2010
Posts: 166
Location: Kenya
Co-Op have no known expansion plans outside Kenya, so substantial part of profit will be given as dividend 1.5Kes/share or may be even more.
DtheK
#252 Posted : Thursday, April 04, 2024 11:44:05 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 2/15/2010
Posts: 166
Location: Kenya
COOP's operating income was flat Vs 2022, they only booked an increase in net profit after reducing provisions, this while gross NPLs increased.
NCBA might soon solidly beat them to number 3 bank in Kenya, NCBA already has bigger balance sheet, only remaining metric is profit and gap is closing.
The wisdom of their decision not to invest outside KE, save for S. Sudan is debatable.
Do they need a new MD with new ideas?
The jamii bora takeover went well though after buying it for 1B, it now has PBT of 1B.
All in all a good dividend play(because where else are they going to take the profits?), great value at current price.
Ericsson
#253 Posted : Friday, April 05, 2024 10:54:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
DtheK wrote:
COOP's operating income was flat Vs 2022, they only booked an increase in net profit after reducing provisions, this while gross NPLs increased.
NCBA might soon solidly beat them to number 3 bank in Kenya, NCBA already has bigger balance sheet, only remaining metric is profit and gap is closing.
The wisdom of their decision not to invest outside KE, save for S. Sudan is debatable.
Do they need a new MD with new ideas?
The jamii bora takeover went well though after buying it for 1B, it now has PBT of 1B.
All in all a good dividend play(because where else are they going to take the profits?), great value at current price.


Co-op bank is very cautious in expansion out of Kenya.
They were waiting to partner with the Sacco movement in Uganda and Rwanda to open a sacco bank but this is yet to materialise.
The gap between them and NCBA in PBT terms is still wide,the main worry for NCBA is ABSA Kenya who are hot on their heels for the 4th position in Kenya.For the second year in a row Absa have managed to keep the gap with NCBA close.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#254 Posted : Tuesday, April 09, 2024 6:45:36 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
DtheK wrote:
COOP's operating income was flat Vs 2022, they only booked an increase in net profit after reducing provisions, this while gross NPLs increased.
NCBA might soon solidly beat them to number 3 bank in Kenya, NCBA already has bigger balance sheet, only remaining metric is profit and gap is closing.
The wisdom of their decision not to invest outside KE, save for S. Sudan is debatable.
Do they need a new MD with new ideas?
The jamii bora takeover went well though after buying it for 1B, it now has PBT of 1B.
All in all a good dividend play(because where else are they going to take the profits?), great value at current price.


Co-op bank is very cautious in expansion out of Kenya.
They were waiting to partner with the Sacco movement in Uganda and Rwanda to open a sacco bank but this is yet to materialise.
The gap between them and NCBA in PBT terms is still wide,the main worry for NCBA is ABSA Kenya who are hot on their heels for the 4th position in Kenya.For the second year in a row Absa have managed to keep the gap with NCBA close.

COOP on Q1 2024 will be the number 2 PBT. I speak in code

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#255 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2024 12:26:22 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DtheK wrote:
COOP's operating income was flat Vs 2022, they only booked an increase in net profit after reducing provisions, this while gross NPLs increased.
NCBA might soon solidly beat them to number 3 bank in Kenya, NCBA already has bigger balance sheet, only remaining metric is profit and gap is closing.
The wisdom of their decision not to invest outside KE, save for S. Sudan is debatable.
Do they need a new MD with new ideas?
The jamii bora takeover went well though after buying it for 1B, it now has PBT of 1B.
All in all a good dividend play(because where else are they going to take the profits?), great value at current price.


Co-op bank is very cautious in expansion out of Kenya.
They were waiting to partner with the Sacco movement in Uganda and Rwanda to open a sacco bank but this is yet to materialise.
The gap between them and NCBA in PBT terms is still wide,the main worry for NCBA is ABSA Kenya who are hot on their heels for the 4th position in Kenya.For the second year in a row Absa have managed to keep the gap with NCBA close.

COOP on Q1 2024 will be the number 2 PBT. I speak in code



Fresh blood and ideas is yearning in the organization.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#256 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2025 3:36:12 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DtheK wrote:
COOP's operating income was flat Vs 2022, they only booked an increase in net profit after reducing provisions, this while gross NPLs increased.
NCBA might soon solidly beat them to number 3 bank in Kenya, NCBA already has bigger balance sheet, only remaining metric is profit and gap is closing.
The wisdom of their decision not to invest outside KE, save for S. Sudan is debatable.
Do they need a new MD with new ideas?
The jamii bora takeover went well though after buying it for 1B, it now has PBT of 1B.
All in all a good dividend play(because where else are they going to take the profits?), great value at current price.


Co-op bank is very cautious in expansion out of Kenya.
They were waiting to partner with the Sacco movement in Uganda and Rwanda to open a sacco bank but this is yet to materialise.
The gap between them and NCBA in PBT terms is still wide,the main worry for NCBA is ABSA Kenya who are hot on their heels for the 4th position in Kenya.For the second year in a row Absa have managed to keep the gap with NCBA close.

COOP on Q1 2024 will be the number 2 PBT. I speak in code



Absa is closing the gap with them and may soon overtake them in PBT
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Realtreaty
#257 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:51:51 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
Co-op Bank serves majority low end investors similar to Equity
Where has Co-op been left by Equity
Was aiming for Kes 2 upwards for Co-op.
Or will they consider a script dividend?
Ericsson
#258 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2025 9:55:41 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Realtreaty wrote:
Co-op Bank serves majority low end investors similar to Equity
Where has Co-op been left by Equity
Was aiming for Kes 2 upwards for Co-op.
Or will they consider a script dividend?


Equity went regional,coop remained domestic
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#259 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2025 4:03:18 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Co-op Bank serves majority low end investors similar to Equity
Where has Co-op been left by Equity
Was aiming for Kes 2 upwards for Co-op.
Or will they consider a script dividend?


Equity went regional,coop remained domestic

Coop entered South Sudan in 2013. Correct me if I am wrong

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#260 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2025 4:31:26 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Co-op Bank serves majority low end investors similar to Equity
Where has Co-op been left by Equity
Was aiming for Kes 2 upwards for Co-op.
Or will they consider a script dividend?


Equity went regional,coop remained domestic

Coop entered South Sudan in 2013. Correct me if I am wrong

Yes but in a much smaller way vs Equity
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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