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Law Capping interest rates
Wakanyugi
#2581 Posted : Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:51:26 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
If the bank dont lend to GoK there will be no need for you to borrow as the nation will collapse.


I just love seeing these banks whining and crying foul, Its music to my ears. I wonder why I haven't heard anything from nation or Citizen

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The Banks KBA talking points are so lame that most of them no longer bother. It is hard to sustain a victim narrative (poor banks, we are being hurt so bad) when you are on the way to declaring supernormal profits.

The new line, which only JM seems to bother spouting is: 'poor Wanjiku, (aside: whom we love to shaft) she will be thrown under a bus unless you remove the Cap' (translation: you have to let us shaft Wanjiku again, please, please, please).

For now the MP's, bless them, seem to be seeing right through the BS.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
bird_man
#2582 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 12:42:08 PM
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So loans at 13% and savings interest at 9%?
If you were James Mwangi, would you deploy your 10 Billion capital to earn 4%pa? I have not even included cost of production.
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Wakanyugi
#2583 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:08:01 PM
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bird_man wrote:
So loans at 13% and savings interest at 9%?
If you were James Mwangi, would you deploy your 10 Billion capital to earn 4%pa? I have not even included cost of production.


When colonial banks were kicking us out of their banking halls in the 90's, because we didn't earn enough, Mwangi stepped in and demonstrated there was money to be made by banking the poor - through volume banking and building relationships with customers. Of course he has since lost this vision but I believe an 'Equity Bank' of mass lending is on the horizon.

I predict it will be driven by smart technology, likely humanised by the same close touch relationship banking that Equity pioneered. Kenyans have one of the highest debt repayment rates anywhere, as many Coops and MF's can attest. What they lack is trust and easy credit access to apply this spirit to drive their entrepreneurship.

There is a market here if only Banks stop focusing on useless pissing contests with politicians.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
sparkly
#2584 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 5:07:55 PM
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bird_man wrote:
So loans at 13% and savings interest at 9%?
If you were James Mwangi, would you deploy your 10 Billion capital to earn 4%pa? I have not even included cost of production.


We borrow from Saccos at 12% and also pool funds as Chammas. The banks can bank the low risk corporates and paysliped employees.
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radio
#2585 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 7:03:11 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
If the bank dont lend to GoK there will be no need for you to borrow as the nation will collapse.


I just love seeing these banks whining and crying foul, Its music to my ears. I wonder why I haven't heard anything from nation or Citizen

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


The Banks KBA talking points are so lame that most of them no longer bother. It is hard to sustain a victim narrative (poor banks, we are being hurt so bad) when you are on the way to declaring supernormal profits.

The new line, which only JM seems to bother spouting is: 'poor Wanjiku, (aside: whom we love to shaft) she will be thrown under a bus unless you remove the Cap' (translation: you have to let us shaft Wanjiku again, please, please, please).

For now the MP's, bless them, seem to be seeing right through the BS.


I doubt they are that visionary. It must be the loans they have from the banks. Which is good for me too. May they take more loans.
obiero
#2586 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 7:07:35 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
radio wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
If the bank dont lend to GoK there will be no need for you to borrow as the nation will collapse.


I just love seeing these banks whining and crying foul, Its music to my ears. I wonder why I haven't heard anything from nation or Citizen

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


The Banks KBA talking points are so lame that most of them no longer bother. It is hard to sustain a victim narrative (poor banks, we are being hurt so bad) when you are on the way to declaring supernormal profits.

The new line, which only JM seems to bother spouting is: 'poor Wanjiku, (aside: whom we love to shaft) she will be thrown under a bus unless you remove the Cap' (translation: you have to let us shaft Wanjiku again, please, please, please).

For now the MP's, bless them, seem to be seeing right through the BS.


I doubt they are that visionary. It must be the loans they have from the banks. Which is good for me too. May they take more loans.

Most of the legislative members are learned folk. It's not personal gain at stake but the soul of Kenya. Banks were profiteering for a long time

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Ericsson
#2587 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 7:29:26 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
radio wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
If the bank dont lend to GoK there will be no need for you to borrow as the nation will collapse.


I just love seeing these banks whining and crying foul, Its music to my ears. I wonder why I haven't heard anything from nation or Citizen

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


The Banks KBA talking points are so lame that most of them no longer bother. It is hard to sustain a victim narrative (poor banks, we are being hurt so bad) when you are on the way to declaring supernormal profits.

The new line, which only JM seems to bother spouting is: 'poor Wanjiku, (aside: whom we love to shaft) she will be thrown under a bus unless you remove the Cap' (translation: you have to let us shaft Wanjiku again, please, please, please).

For now the MP's, bless them, seem to be seeing right through the BS.


I doubt they are that visionary. It must be the loans they have from the banks. Which is good for me too. May they take more loans.

Most of the legislative members are learned folk. It's not personal gain at stake but the soul of Kenya. Banks were profiteering for a long time


For the MPs its personal gain and looking for bribes from bankers
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obiero
#2588 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 7:47:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
radio wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
If the bank dont lend to GoK there will be no need for you to borrow as the nation will collapse.


I just love seeing these banks whining and crying foul, Its music to my ears. I wonder why I haven't heard anything from nation or Citizen

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


The Banks KBA talking points are so lame that most of them no longer bother. It is hard to sustain a victim narrative (poor banks, we are being hurt so bad) when you are on the way to declaring supernormal profits.

The new line, which only JM seems to bother spouting is: 'poor Wanjiku, (aside: whom we love to shaft) she will be thrown under a bus unless you remove the Cap' (translation: you have to let us shaft Wanjiku again, please, please, please).

For now the MP's, bless them, seem to be seeing right through the BS.


I doubt they are that visionary. It must be the loans they have from the banks. Which is good for me too. May they take more loans.

Most of the legislative members are learned folk. It's not personal gain at stake but the soul of Kenya. Banks were profiteering for a long time


For the MPs its personal gain and looking for bribes from bankers

You are not making sense. If they were looking for bribes then the motion would not have been tabled in its current form

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#2589 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2018 7:50:59 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
radio wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
If the bank dont lend to GoK there will be no need for you to borrow as the nation will collapse.


I just love seeing these banks whining and crying foul, Its music to my ears. I wonder why I haven't heard anything from nation or Citizen

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


The Banks KBA talking points are so lame that most of them no longer bother. It is hard to sustain a victim narrative (poor banks, we are being hurt so bad) when you are on the way to declaring supernormal profits.

The new line, which only JM seems to bother spouting is: 'poor Wanjiku, (aside: whom we love to shaft) she will be thrown under a bus unless you remove the Cap' (translation: you have to let us shaft Wanjiku again, please, please, please).

For now the MP's, bless them, seem to be seeing right through the BS.


I doubt they are that visionary. It must be the loans they have from the banks. Which is good for me too. May they take more loans.

Most of the legislative members are learned folk. It's not personal gain at stake but the soul of Kenya. Banks were profiteering for a long time


For the MPs its personal gain and looking for bribes from bankers

You are not making sense. If they were looking for bribes then the motion would not have been tabled in its current form

KQ ABP 4.26
watesh
#2590 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2018 12:54:22 AM
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Joined: 8/10/2014
Posts: 992
Location: Kenya
bird_man wrote:
So loans at 13% and savings interest at 9%?
If you were James Mwangi, would you deploy your 10 Billion capital to earn 4%pa? I have not even included cost of production.

Treasury bonds rate are at 12.6%, lending to the government will continue. I would also deploy that 10bn capital to other subsidiaries outside Kenya.
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