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mnandii
#2551 Posted : Friday, July 13, 2012 8:48:28 AM
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How paper money will end?

On deflation I disagree.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
youcan'tstopusnow
#2552 Posted : Friday, July 13, 2012 9:10:14 AM
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Joined: 3/24/2010
Posts: 6,779
Location: Black Africa
Moody's has cut Italy's
credit rating, warning that the country was likely to see a sharp rise in borrowing costs.
The rating was cut two
notches to Baa2 from A3,
two levels above junk status.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18824246
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
karanjakinuthia
#2553 Posted : Friday, July 13, 2012 2:39:03 PM
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Posts: 551
Location: Nairobi
murchr
#2554 Posted : Friday, July 13, 2012 6:11:57 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Moody's has cut Italy's
credit rating, warning that the country was likely to see a sharp rise in borrowing costs.
The rating was cut two
notches to Baa2 from A3,
two levels above junk status.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18824246


Question: Did moody upgrade Kenyas credit rating?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#2555 Posted : Friday, July 13, 2012 6:22:17 PM
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Put dishonest bankers behind bars - http://www.avaaz.org/en/...kers_behind_bars_f/?copy
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#2556 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:41:03 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Quote:
Kenyan Banks:
Don't get caught when the music stops

 It's been grand — Within our MEA banks universe, the Kenyan banks have been stronger outperformers in 2012. In our coverage universe, Equity Bank (EBL) and Kenya Commercial Bank are up 31% ytd and 38% ytd. The bank shares have been following the robust operating performance of the industry, which continues to defy the challenging macro-economic and social backdrop. As banks ultimately tend to reflect the macro, we think it is time for the market to pay attention to the risks.
 The market should be concerned about the following:
– Macro disconnect — Since 2007, real GDP growth has contracted twice, the CPI has been a yoyo, the currency has devalued 26%, rates have gone through the roof, and despite all of this, system profits have grown 27% p.a. and the NPL ratio improved to 4% in 2011 (from 11% in 2007) — this should concern us.
– Underprovisioned — We estimate that the six largest banks ('Big 6') may be under provisioned by KES20.8bn (49% of FY11 profits or 12% of FY11 equity).
– Overstated profits — We estimate that IAS 39 adjustments overstated the
profits of Equity Bank in 2007, KCB in 2011, Barclays Bank in 2009, Co-operative
Bank in 2008 and CFC Stanbic in 2008 by 15%, 19%, 23%, 10% and 23%,
respectively.
– Potential mortgage woes — After rising 3-fold since 2000, property prices were
up only 1.4% yoy at 1Q12 and the mortgage book now represents 8% of system
loans. The concern here is the 50% risk weighting on these exposures — the banks cannot afford to get caught in a bubble
– Liquidity mismatch — For the Big 6, 72% of their deposits have a contractual duration of less than 3 months while 80% of their loans have a duration of more than one year — this gap is widening and not shrinking, so it shouldn’t be overlooked.
 Equity Bank, Sell — We downgrade EBL to Sell (from Neutral) and reduce our target price to KES17/share (from KES19/share). We also lower our 2012, 2013 and 2014 EPS forecasts by 9%, 9% and 5% respectively.
 KCB, Neutral — We downgrade KCB to Neutral (from BUY) and reduce our target price to KES23/share (from KES27/share). We also lower our 2012, 2013 and 2014 EPS forecasts by 4%, 9% and 9%, respectively.


Why is this Citi report not sounding genuine, we'll it din't have any impact in the market but lets watch how trading starts off in the coming week. I find it shallow esp given that the banking industry in Ke is not focused on Kenya alone rather the region.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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guru267
#2557 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:55:38 AM
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Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:

Why is this Citi report not sounding genuine, we'll it din't have any impact in the market but lets watch how trading starts off in the coming week. I find it shallow esp given that the banking industry in Ke is not focused on Kenya alone rather the region.


@muchr do you expect to write a genuine and objective report on your competition?? Its obvious you would have nothing nice to say...

Therefore it would be too much to expect Mr. market to react to a bunch of lies & hate speech!

Even the CBK declined to react to such a bias report...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
hisah
#2558 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:43:48 AM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Will JP Morgue become Enron... It's getting interesting this show smile

www.bloomberg.com/news/2...organ-is-like-enron.html

www.reuters.com/article/...E8620LK20120706?irpc=932

www.reuters.com/article/...on-idUSBRE86C1A420120713

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#2559 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:43:44 AM
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Joined: 10/11/2006
Posts: 2,304
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
Nabwire
#2560 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:56:18 AM
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Joined: 7/22/2011
Posts: 1,325
LOL at the periodic table, thats funny! Gosh you guys hate bankers!!!
I read somewhere that the govt should not bother jailing bankers coz they will just privatize the jail and sell it off to themselves...LOL!! Why lie, thats the team I'd rather be playing for, untouchable!! But JP Morgan, how can the share be up almost 6% yet their trading losses estimates were found to be double what they initially reported...LOL!! Gotta love the bank hustle.
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