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Riverside / Dusit Hotel
murchr
#241 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2019 12:10:02 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
ohhhh. I have hurt your feelings?

How do you think a Kenyan Somali feels every time you and your ilk compares them to terrorists. Again I want to remind you, it's not Muslims, it's terrorists. Lest you forget one of these fellas was called Erick.

Grow up.

Now you go create another hashtag. Men are busy talking.


@alma you are an IDIOT! What will you say now????

https://www.the-star.co....s-inside-dusit_c1880464

Quote:
Yesterday, investigations took a dramatic twist after police traced 26-year-old Eric Kinyanjui Munyi to a hospital in Kiambu and established that he was not among the attackers killed.

DCI officers have been pursuing Kinyajui after it emerged that a cell phone the dead terrorists used was registered with his particulars.

Detectives from Dagoretti DCI traced Kinyanjui to Nazareth Hospital where he is currently working as a trainee nurse. Kinyanjui was in shock when the officers questioned him about the Dusit Hotel attack.

Kinyanjui told the police he was not in communication with any of the killed men and that his identity card and particulars could have been used to register the cell phone which the terrorists were using.

Kinyanjui was questioned by the police but was not required to travel to Nairobi to record statements.

Kinyanjui told the police he lost his identity card sometime last July and he reported the matter to the police and obtained a police abstract. He later used the abstract to replace his lost ID which he believes the criminals used to register their cell phone.




I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID

lakini the ID is a sequential number, its not random, someone can just extrapolate the same and design a photocopy look like and get a sim card.



It would be interesting to come across someone who has guessed those 8-9 numbers and matched your names as stored on the national database.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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2012
#242 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2019 12:58:46 PM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
The US killed 52 al-shabab militias in Somali in last night's air strikes. A swift reaction to the attack at 14 Riverside.

BBI will solve it
:)
kaka2za
#243 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:31:50 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
ohhhh. I have hurt your feelings?

How do you think a Kenyan Somali feels every time you and your ilk compares them to terrorists. Again I want to remind you, it's not Muslims, it's terrorists. Lest you forget one of these fellas was called Erick.

Grow up.

Now you go create another hashtag. Men are busy talking.


@alma you are an IDIOT! What will you say now????

https://www.the-star.co....s-inside-dusit_c1880464

Quote:
Yesterday, investigations took a dramatic twist after police traced 26-year-old Eric Kinyanjui Munyi to a hospital in Kiambu and established that he was not among the attackers killed.

DCI officers have been pursuing Kinyajui after it emerged that a cell phone the dead terrorists used was registered with his particulars.

Detectives from Dagoretti DCI traced Kinyanjui to Nazareth Hospital where he is currently working as a trainee nurse. Kinyanjui was in shock when the officers questioned him about the Dusit Hotel attack.

Kinyanjui told the police he was not in communication with any of the killed men and that his identity card and particulars could have been used to register the cell phone which the terrorists were using.

Kinyanjui was questioned by the police but was not required to travel to Nairobi to record statements.

Kinyanjui told the police he lost his identity card sometime last July and he reported the matter to the police and obtained a police abstract. He later used the abstract to replace his lost ID which he believes the criminals used to register their cell phone.




I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID


How can you keep it private? Unless you don't use mpesa agents and you don't go various premises where you have to leave your ID or log it in with the Security guards.
And remember you can still lose your wallet!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
murchr
#244 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2019 5:32:47 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
ohhhh. I have hurt your feelings?

How do you think a Kenyan Somali feels every time you and your ilk compares them to terrorists. Again I want to remind you, it's not Muslims, it's terrorists. Lest you forget one of these fellas was called Erick.

Grow up.

Now you go create another hashtag. Men are busy talking.


@alma you are an IDIOT! What will you say now????

https://www.the-star.co....s-inside-dusit_c1880464

Quote:
Yesterday, investigations took a dramatic twist after police traced 26-year-old Eric Kinyanjui Munyi to a hospital in Kiambu and established that he was not among the attackers killed.

DCI officers have been pursuing Kinyajui after it emerged that a cell phone the dead terrorists used was registered with his particulars.

Detectives from Dagoretti DCI traced Kinyanjui to Nazareth Hospital where he is currently working as a trainee nurse. Kinyanjui was in shock when the officers questioned him about the Dusit Hotel attack.

Kinyanjui told the police he was not in communication with any of the killed men and that his identity card and particulars could have been used to register the cell phone which the terrorists were using.

Kinyanjui was questioned by the police but was not required to travel to Nairobi to record statements.

Kinyanjui told the police he lost his identity card sometime last July and he reported the matter to the police and obtained a police abstract. He later used the abstract to replace his lost ID which he believes the criminals used to register their cell phone.




I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID


How can you keep it private? Unless you don't use mpesa agents and you don't go various premises where you have to leave your ID or log it in with the Security guards.
And remember you can still lose your wallet!


And that's the question, personally I am really rethinking my interuction with the mpesa people. Lipa na mpesa is a great help. And withdrawals over ATM.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
hardwood
#245 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2019 11:00:25 AM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
alma1 wrote:
You should apologise for suggesting that I was peddling falsehoods when I said these guys were Kikuyus. I was wrong. In fact, there were 2 Kikuyus involved.


It's been confirmed that NONE of the terrorists were okuyo. Ali Salim is NOT okuyo. Erick Kinyanjui was not involved in the attack but rather terrorists used his lost ID to register telephone lines used to coordinate the attacks. Therefore you should stop this habit of kupayuka ovyo ovyo and always wait for facts to emerge before opening your mouth. I hope we have now settled this issue. Okuyos are not terrorists. You should now apologize to all okuyos for tarnishing their character.
hardwood
#246 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2019 11:10:37 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
ohhhh. I have hurt your feelings?

How do you think a Kenyan Somali feels every time you and your ilk compares them to terrorists. Again I want to remind you, it's not Muslims, it's terrorists. Lest you forget one of these fellas was called Erick.

Grow up.

Now you go create another hashtag. Men are busy talking.


@alma you are an IDIOT! What will you say now????

https://www.the-star.co....s-inside-dusit_c1880464

Quote:
Yesterday, investigations took a dramatic twist after police traced 26-year-old Eric Kinyanjui Munyi to a hospital in Kiambu and established that he was not among the attackers killed.

DCI officers have been pursuing Kinyajui after it emerged that a cell phone the dead terrorists used was registered with his particulars.

Detectives from Dagoretti DCI traced Kinyanjui to Nazareth Hospital where he is currently working as a trainee nurse. Kinyanjui was in shock when the officers questioned him about the Dusit Hotel attack.

Kinyanjui told the police he was not in communication with any of the killed men and that his identity card and particulars could have been used to register the cell phone which the terrorists were using.

Kinyanjui was questioned by the police but was not required to travel to Nairobi to record statements.

Kinyanjui told the police he lost his identity card sometime last July and he reported the matter to the police and obtained a police abstract. He later used the abstract to replace his lost ID which he believes the criminals used to register their cell phone.




I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID


How can you keep it private? Unless you don't use mpesa agents and you don't go various premises where you have to leave your ID or log it in with the Security guards.
And remember you can still lose your wallet!


And that's the question, personally I am really rethinking my interuction with the mpesa people. Lipa na mpesa is a great help. And withdrawals over ATM.


The are thousands of lost IDS pinned on street corners, malls, offices, hospitals, churches, pubs, matatus etc etc. The thugs would have to exhaust all those before coming for your ID.
Angelica _ann
#247 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2019 11:15:26 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,936
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
ohhhh. I have hurt your feelings?

How do you think a Kenyan Somali feels every time you and your ilk compares them to terrorists. Again I want to remind you, it's not Muslims, it's terrorists. Lest you forget one of these fellas was called Erick.

Grow up.

Now you go create another hashtag. Men are busy talking.


@alma you are an IDIOT! What will you say now????

https://www.the-star.co....s-inside-dusit_c1880464

Quote:
Yesterday, investigations took a dramatic twist after police traced 26-year-old Eric Kinyanjui Munyi to a hospital in Kiambu and established that he was not among the attackers killed.

DCI officers have been pursuing Kinyajui after it emerged that a cell phone the dead terrorists used was registered with his particulars.

Detectives from Dagoretti DCI traced Kinyanjui to Nazareth Hospital where he is currently working as a trainee nurse. Kinyanjui was in shock when the officers questioned him about the Dusit Hotel attack.

Kinyanjui told the police he was not in communication with any of the killed men and that his identity card and particulars could have been used to register the cell phone which the terrorists were using.

Kinyanjui was questioned by the police but was not required to travel to Nairobi to record statements.

Kinyanjui told the police he lost his identity card sometime last July and he reported the matter to the police and obtained a police abstract. He later used the abstract to replace his lost ID which he believes the criminals used to register their cell phone.




I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID


How can you keep it private? Unless you don't use mpesa agents and you don't go various premises where you have to leave your ID or log it in with the Security guards.
And remember you can still lose your wallet!


And that's the question, personally I am really rethinking my interuction with the mpesa people. Lipa na mpesa is a great help. And withdrawals over ATM.


The are thousands of lost IDS pinned on street corners, malls, offices, hospitals, churches, pubs, matatus etc etc. The thugs would have to exhaust all those before coming for your ID.


With 'right' connections and afew kshs '000 you can get any ID you want fro you know where. Kenya!!!!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
hardwood
#248 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2019 11:18:19 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
ohhhh. I have hurt your feelings?

How do you think a Kenyan Somali feels every time you and your ilk compares them to terrorists. Again I want to remind you, it's not Muslims, it's terrorists. Lest you forget one of these fellas was called Erick.

Grow up.

Now you go create another hashtag. Men are busy talking.


@alma you are an IDIOT! What will you say now????

https://www.the-star.co....s-inside-dusit_c1880464

Quote:
Yesterday, investigations took a dramatic twist after police traced 26-year-old Eric Kinyanjui Munyi to a hospital in Kiambu and established that he was not among the attackers killed.

DCI officers have been pursuing Kinyajui after it emerged that a cell phone the dead terrorists used was registered with his particulars.

Detectives from Dagoretti DCI traced Kinyanjui to Nazareth Hospital where he is currently working as a trainee nurse. Kinyanjui was in shock when the officers questioned him about the Dusit Hotel attack.

Kinyanjui told the police he was not in communication with any of the killed men and that his identity card and particulars could have been used to register the cell phone which the terrorists were using.

Kinyanjui was questioned by the police but was not required to travel to Nairobi to record statements.

Kinyanjui told the police he lost his identity card sometime last July and he reported the matter to the police and obtained a police abstract. He later used the abstract to replace his lost ID which he believes the criminals used to register their cell phone.




I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID


How can you keep it private? Unless you don't use mpesa agents and you don't go various premises where you have to leave your ID or log it in with the Security guards.
And remember you can still lose your wallet!


And that's the question, personally I am really rethinking my interuction with the mpesa people. Lipa na mpesa is a great help. And withdrawals over ATM.


The are thousands of lost IDS pinned on street corners, malls, offices, hospitals, churches, pubs, matatus etc etc. The thugs would have to exhaust all those before coming for your ID.


With 'right' connections and afew kshs '000 you can get any ID you want fro you know where. Kenya!!!!!!


I thought those manenos iliisha with kajwang (no pun intended).
hardwood
#249 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2019 12:00:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID



How can you keep it private? Unless you don't use mpesa agents and you don't go various premises where you have to leave your ID or log it in with the Security guards.
And remember you can still lose your wallet!


@murchr Many people have more than one tel number registered under their ID eg you could have your main line, side hustle business line, safcom modem line, line for tablet comp, car tracking device line, line for your underage 16yr old, house phone line to call the housegirl or kids etc. Those are 7 active safaricom lines registered with one ID by a law abiding citizen. So imagine the havoc if safcom switched off all extra lines registered under your ID.

@kaka2za imagine all the personal data we leave each day? You visit office A and at the gate you have to note on some hard cover book your name, ID, telephone no, car details etc and on top of that leave your original ID at the gate. Image if you visit more than 1 office each day. Also if you are applying for jobs you email a copy of your id, CV, certificates and other details to numerous companies/organisations and you have no control of all that digital data. You may have your ID in the pocket but your details are all over.
kaka2za
#250 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2019 12:26:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
I guess those who argue just for the sake of it can now see why it is wise to keep your IDs private. I realised that Safaricom doesn't audit its information esp if you change your number. You better reach out to them to find out how many numbers are registered using your ID



How can you keep it private? Unless you don't use mpesa agents and you don't go various premises where you have to leave your ID or log it in with the Security guards.
And remember you can still lose your wallet!


@murchr Many people have more than one tel number registered under their ID eg you could have your main line, side hustle business line, safcom modem line, line for tablet comp, car tracking device line, line for your underage 16yr old, house phone line to call the housegirl or kids etc. Those are 7 active safaricom lines registered with one ID by a law abiding citizen. So imagine the havoc if safcom switched off all extra lines registered under your ID.

@kaka2za imagine all the personal data we leave each day? You visit office A and at the gate you have to note on some hard cover book your name, ID, telephone no, car details etc and on top of that leave your original ID at the gate. Image if you visit more than 1 office each day. Also if you are applying for jobs you email a copy of your id, CV, certificates and other details to numerous companies/organisations and you have no control of all that digital data. You may have your ID in the pocket but your details are all over.


My point exactly! So don't be surprised to find that some strangers have registered lines under your name.
May be the service providers should have a platform where one can find all the lines registered under his/her name.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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