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matatuman
#231 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:50:20 PM
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Anyone with a petrol box we compare notes? (TRH200 chassis). Consumption for mine is similar to my 5Ls. The diesel box is however less thirsty and has better torque.

My route is however relatively short and level so i am not sure how the petrol engine would perform on a long route with significant mountain sections. I however see no difference in terms of operating costs between the diesel box and the petrol box since the service intervals on the petrol are significantly longer and cheaper as compared to the diesel.The savings i make on the diesel at the pump are cancelled by service costs.
jerry
#232 Posted : Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:38:12 PM
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matatuman wrote:
Anyone with a petrol box we compare notes? (TRH200 chassis). Consumption for mine is similar to my 5Ls. The diesel box is however less thirsty and has better torque.

My route is however relatively short and level so i am not sure how the petrol engine would perform on a long route with significant mountain sections. I however see no difference in terms of operating costs between the diesel box and the petrol box since the service intervals on the petrol are significantly longer and cheaper as compared to the diesel.The savings i make on the diesel at the pump are cancelled by service costs.

I hope you are using oil from Total!
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Prime
#233 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:13:00 AM
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jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Anyone with a petrol box we compare notes? (TRH200 chassis). Consumption for mine is similar to my 5Ls. The diesel box is however less thirsty and has better torque.

My route is however relatively short and level so i am not sure how the petrol engine would perform on a long route with significant mountain sections. I however see no difference in terms of operating costs between the diesel box and the petrol box since the service intervals on the petrol are significantly longer and cheaper as compared to the diesel.The savings i make on the diesel at the pump are cancelled by service costs.

I hope you are using oil from Total!


Jerry, I have been using Total's Quartz 9000 (Synthetic which is used on both Petrol and diesel engines). Im however not sure of the draining interval. The total guys tell me to drain at 6000 kms instead of 9000 and my mechanic tells me to drain at 5000. The mechanic says that we will measure the quantity of oil drained out before he can accept the 6000. Though I prefer to do 5000 and service at the first chance I get as long as it does not get to 5500. Your thoughts? I am also wondering where I can get the quartz oil at wholesale prices. Each service consumes 5220 in oil alone
matatuman
#234 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:24:29 AM
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Prime wrote:
jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Anyone with a petrol box we compare notes? (TRH200 chassis). Consumption for mine is similar to my 5Ls. The diesel box is however less thirsty and has better torque.

My route is however relatively short and level so i am not sure how the petrol engine would perform on a long route with significant mountain sections. I however see no difference in terms of operating costs between the diesel box and the petrol box since the service intervals on the petrol are significantly longer and cheaper as compared to the diesel.The savings i make on the diesel at the pump are cancelled by service costs.

I hope you are using oil from Total!


Jerry, I have been using Total's Quartz 9000 (Synthetic which is used on both Petrol and diesel engines). Im however not sure of the draining interval. The total guys tell me to drain at 6000 kms instead of 9000 and my mechanic tells me to drain at 5000. The mechanic says that we will measure the quantity of oil drained out before he can accept the 6000. Though I prefer to do 5000 and service at the first chance I get as long as it does not get to 5500. Your thoughts? I am also wondering where I can get the quartz oil at wholesale prices. Each service consumes 5220 in oil alone


I use Quartz 9000 for the petrol, service interval at 9K. For the diesel i use Quartz 5000, service interval at 3K. For the 5Ls i use Quartz 5000 with an interval of 3K. Only thing i change midway for the petrol is the air filter.

http://www.vacmotorsport...ynthetic-engine-oil.htm
Prime
#235 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:00:18 AM
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matatuman wrote:
Prime wrote:
jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Anyone with a petrol box we compare notes? (TRH200 chassis). Consumption for mine is similar to my 5Ls. The diesel box is however less thirsty and has better torque.

My route is however relatively short and level so i am not sure how the petrol engine would perform on a long route with significant mountain sections. I however see no difference in terms of operating costs between the diesel box and the petrol box since the service intervals on the petrol are significantly longer and cheaper as compared to the diesel.The savings i make on the diesel at the pump are cancelled by service costs.

I hope you are using oil from Total!


Jerry, I have been using Total's Quartz 9000 (Synthetic which is used on both Petrol and diesel engines). Im however not sure of the draining interval. The total guys tell me to drain at 6000 kms instead of 9000 and my mechanic tells me to drain at 5000. The mechanic says that we will measure the quantity of oil drained out before he can accept the 6000. Though I prefer to do 5000 and service at the first chance I get as long as it does not get to 5500. Your thoughts? I am also wondering where I can get the quartz oil at wholesale prices. Each service consumes 5220 in oil alone


I use Quartz 9000 for the petrol, service interval at 9K. For the diesel i use Quartz 5000, service interval at 3K. For the 5Ls i use Quartz 5000 with an interval of 3K. Only thing i change midway for the petrol is the air filter.

http://www.vacmotorsport...ynthetic-engine-oil.htm

Why not the quartz 9000 for the diesels too? Do you have a place where you buy them at wholesale or do you just buy at the total stations?
matatuman
#236 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:30:50 AM
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Prime wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Prime wrote:
jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Anyone with a petrol box we compare notes? (TRH200 chassis). Consumption for mine is similar to my 5Ls. The diesel box is however less thirsty and has better torque.

My route is however relatively short and level so i am not sure how the petrol engine would perform on a long route with significant mountain sections. I however see no difference in terms of operating costs between the diesel box and the petrol box since the service intervals on the petrol are significantly longer and cheaper as compared to the diesel.The savings i make on the diesel at the pump are cancelled by service costs.

I hope you are using oil from Total!


Jerry, I have been using Total's Quartz 9000 (Synthetic which is used on both Petrol and diesel engines). Im however not sure of the draining interval. The total guys tell me to drain at 6000 kms instead of 9000 and my mechanic tells me to drain at 5000. The mechanic says that we will measure the quantity of oil drained out before he can accept the 6000. Though I prefer to do 5000 and service at the first chance I get as long as it does not get to 5500. Your thoughts? I am also wondering where I can get the quartz oil at wholesale prices. Each service consumes 5220 in oil alone


I use Quartz 9000 for the petrol, service interval at 9K. For the diesel i use Quartz 5000, service interval at 3K. For the 5Ls i use Quartz 5000 with an interval of 3K. Only thing i change midway for the petrol is the air filter.

http://www.vacmotorsport...ynthetic-engine-oil.htm

Why not the quartz 9000 for the diesels too? Do you have a place where you buy them at wholesale or do you just buy at the total stations?


No specific reason, i have historically used the 5000 even with the 5L engines, i guess its a case of "not easy to teach an old dog new tricks". But now that you have asked, i might just switch coz the price difference isn't much. I buy them from Total stations.
Kipkorir
#237 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:59:17 AM
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Joined: 1/24/2014
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Prime wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Prime wrote:
jerry wrote:
matatuman wrote:
Anyone with a petrol box we compare notes? (TRH200 chassis). Consumption for mine is similar to my 5Ls. The diesel box is however less thirsty and has better torque.

My route is however relatively short and level so i am not sure how the petrol engine would perform on a long route with significant mountain sections. I however see no difference in terms of operating costs between the diesel box and the petrol box since the service intervals on the petrol are significantly longer and cheaper as compared to the diesel.The savings i make on the diesel at the pump are cancelled by service costs.

I hope you are using oil from Total!


Jerry, I have been using Total's Quartz 9000 (Synthetic which is used on both Petrol and diesel engines). Im however not sure of the draining interval. The total guys tell me to drain at 6000 kms instead of 9000 and my mechanic tells me to drain at 5000. The mechanic says that we will measure the quantity of oil drained out before he can accept the 6000. Though I prefer to do 5000 and service at the first chance I get as long as it does not get to 5500. Your thoughts? I am also wondering where I can get the quartz oil at wholesale prices. Each service consumes 5220 in oil alone


I use Quartz 9000 for the petrol, service interval at 9K. For the diesel i use Quartz 5000, service interval at 3K. For the 5Ls i use Quartz 5000 with an interval of 3K. Only thing i change midway for the petrol is the air filter.

http://www.vacmotorsport...ynthetic-engine-oil.htm

Why not the quartz 9000 for the diesels too? Do you have a place where you buy them at wholesale or do you just buy at the total stations?


Thanks guys for your enlightening topics. I am getting that nearly everyone is using oil from total. What is your take on Oil Rimula from Shell. I have been using it and i have had no issues. Shade some light on benefits of Oil from Total. My matatu is a diesel engine 3L.
pkn
Prime
#238 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:30:39 PM
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I think that bora you service on time and with genuine products then one is good to go. I however feel that generally modern engines, especially turbocharged and supercharged ones do better with synthetic. Google on the comparison between synthetic, semi-synthetic and mineral oils. The small price difference is worth every shilling.
Kipkorir
#239 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 2:40:57 PM
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Joined: 1/24/2014
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vmartin wrote:
Mamboz,i'm interestd in purchasing a KBG 14 seater mat 4 twn service in Msa.The owner has asked 4 600k negotiable.Wat shud i luk out 4 to get a gud deal.(P.S am a newbie in this industry and wud appreciate anyone advice)


KBG at 600K?! that is very suspect. How many miles as per the Odometer? Engine status in terms of oil consumption? is it overheating? General body work? You need a genius mech to ispect and ascertain all that.
pkn
vmartin
#240 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:19:45 PM
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Joined: 2/17/2014
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Thank you guyz for all the info.Am now wiser
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