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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
Aguytrying
#2371 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 10:37:49 AM
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Factors contributing to the great NSE bear: famine, reduced liquidity in the economy , slow economic growth, tourism slump, mismanagement and loss of hope in the government - corruption etc. The only thing remaining is very cold weather and it will feel like all hell has broken loose
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
muandiwambeu
#2372 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 11:26:34 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Buyers paradise for the smart investors! Sub 3000 hit on Friday 2971. Unbelievable.

Mark my words some stocks will rally 300% in the next bull run! All our current problems are temporary, they can and will be fixed/end. My main worry is the political regime that is killing the economy. But they can change that aspect or be replaced.

On my cross hairs I can not see any stock doing that under this regime. NSE above 3500 without financials/ banking is not possible. Commercials are curtailed seriously to fuel the bulls steroids.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Spikes
#2373 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 11:33:39 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Buyers paradise for the smart investors! Sub 3000 hit on Friday 2971. Unbelievable.

Mark my words some stocks will rally 300% in the next bull run! All our current problems are temporary, they can and will be fixed/end. My main worry is the political regime that is killing the economy. But they can change that aspect or be replaced.

On my cross hairs I can not see any stock doing that under this regime. NSE above 3500 without financials/ banking is not possible. Commercials are curtailed seriously to fuel the bulls steroids.



Even 1000% rise is possible but a lot of water must flow below the bridge. ...
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2374 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 12:24:12 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:



@L.Index, this was between 1st Jan 2000(earliest available data) and September 2002 in the moi's sunset years.
A similar situation is at play currently.

Thanks for the charts. I believe that bear run was part of an 8 year downturn (economy, NSE20 etc) where the market in particular tanked from 5000 in 1994 to 1000 in 2002. Interesting similarities to the current situation. I don't expect the bearish momentum to last eight years this time but I think the bear still has some leg room till sub-2000.


We had a double top at 5,400 level on the NSE20 in March 2015. First 5,400 post 2011 bear was in Sept 2004.
Only a change of guard at the top from a Politician to a Manager/Economist will take us back there and should this not happen this year, am looking at any meaningful bull in 2022 when wanjiku will be fed up with the status quo and will be pushed into voting with her head.
Ans so YES,the 8 year bear run last seen under politician Moi(1994-2002) should play out again if things remain as they are
@SufficientlyP
Metasploit
#2375 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 12:59:59 PM
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Most stocks will be recording 10% dividend yields..I was looking into investing in the Nigeria stock exchange and noted that the difference in exchange rate to the dollar between the black market and the central markets is 150 Naira..a difference of almost 40%
KSH is not yet near there..KE is not bearish until the dollar gain soo much against the KSH that black market starts to flourish

The current president has mismanaged the economy but the economy is not yet even a thousand miles the recession days before President Mwai Kibaki

Unless the elections has violence,a good number of shares are almost at subsidized rates

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
lochaz-index
#2376 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 3:43:11 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Factors contributing to the great NSE bear: famine, reduced liquidity in the economy , slow economic growth, tourism slump, mismanagement and loss of hope in the government - corruption etc. The only thing remaining is very cold weather and it will feel like all hell has broken loose

@aguy you forgot the big one... DEBT.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
mnandii
#2377 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 5:08:43 PM
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THREE YEARS AGO!
mnandii wrote:
ELLIOTT WAVE ANALYSIS OF THE NSE 20 SHARE INDEX

This is my interpretation of the path of the NSE 20 Share index from the low of Sept. 2002. I've obtained the chart from the FINANCIAL TIMES Website
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Elliott wave analysis is mine.
Looking at the chart, one can convincingly conclude that it is possible to chart the path of the NSE using Elliott Waves. For those interested in learning the waves you can read ELLIOTT WAVE PRINCIPLE: KEY TO MARKET BEHAVIOUR BY Frost and Prechter. You can get the entire book free and alot more from www.elliottwave.com.

It is instructive to note that Prechter and Frost, in the book, predicted the great bull market from 1979 (i.e the DJIA). To date the American market has far exceeded even their own expectations. Prechter won the U.S Trading Championship in 1984 with a record 444% gain.

Prechter

Prechter is currently researching on social causality via the Socionomics Institute.

Now to our analysis:



This chart shows a 5 wave move from the low of Sept. 2002 (1009 points) to the high of Jan 2007 (6026 points). Note the zigzag in wave IV and the triangle in wave four of wave V.

This five wave move is called an Impulse Wave. I don't have data from before 1998 so I guess this is a fifth wave move of a much larger impulse wave.

A fourth wave usually divides an impulse into a Golden Section. From the low of Sept. 2002 to the high of wave III (at 3176) is a gain of 2167 (i.e. 3176-1009). Wave V has a gain of 3558 points (i.e 6026-2468).

Now, wave I through wave III, (i.e 3176-1009=2167) multiplied by 1.618 ( a Fibonacci ratio) gives 3506 points vide:

(3176-1009) X 1.618 = 3506 points.

Wave V had a gain of 3558 points i.e 6026-2468.
The difference btw the two figures (3558 vs 3506) is 52 points which is one and half percentage points from the exact figure!

WHY I CONSIDER A HUGE BEAR MARKET FOR NSE

1. From the high of 6026, the NSE 20 Share index has fallen in five waves (i.e waves 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5). From the low of March 2009 (at 2576 points), the NSE has moved in 3 waves. Or, at the very least, the move from the part I've labelled A to the part labelled B cannot be considered an impulse wave due to overlap. The Elliott wave pattern that has such characteristics is called a ZIGZAG. A Zigzag is a three wave move that subdivides 5-3-5. So presently we have 5 waves down from the 6026 high, thus forming wave A. Wave B is the three wave move from the low of March 2009 at 2576 to present levels. What remains is another five wave down which is likely to take the 2576 low!!!

2. Also note the DIVERGENCE between the RSI and the highs that the NSE is making presently.

3. From the low of Sept. 2002 to the high of Jan 2007 NSE had a gain of 5017 (i.e 6026-1009) points over a 5 year period. From the low of March 2009 to presently, the NSE has only gained about 2497 points (i.e 5073-2576) over a 5 year period. This is about half the gain of 2002-2007. So we now have a market which shows weakness in breadth apart from not making a new high beyond 6026 points.

4. Economically Kenya has one of the highest taxation levels with little efficiency. Electricity prices are high etc etc. Our debt obligation, though not necessarily un-manageable at this point, has accelerated over the past few years. Alot of grand projects are being announced which appear to be good news. In Elliott analysis complacency usually reigns at the very top of a move.

CONCLUSION

NSE 20 Share index is over-extended and it is time for a big correction in the market.

Regards to all.



Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#2378 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 5:22:46 PM
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When the CEO of a company appears in the front pages of a magazine celebrating success, consider that a MAJOR TOP in that company's share price. SELL Safaricom and target to buy it at sub-10 bob!

BOB COLLYMORE: JOY AND PAIN OF RUNNING SAFARICOM
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
obiero
#2379 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 6:10:48 PM
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mnandii wrote:
When the CEO of a company appears in the front pages of a magazine celebrating success, consider that a MAJOR TOP in that company's share price. SELL Safaricom and target to buy it at sub-10 bob!

BOB COLLYMORE: JOY AND PAIN OF RUNNING SAFARICOM

We may not get to KES 10 but KES 16 shall print before end of next week

KQ ABP 4.26
snipermnoma
#2380 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 6:12:32 PM
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mnandii wrote:
When the CEO of a company appears in the front pages of a magazine celebrating success, consider that a MAJOR TOP in that company's share price. SELL Safaricom and target to buy it at sub-10 bob!

BOB COLLYMORE: JOY AND PAIN OF RUNNING SAFARICOM


May be this will be the trigger http://www.businessdaily.../539550-3516314-11gbxj/
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