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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
obiero
#2361 Posted : Friday, January 13, 2017 6:46:52 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
maka wrote:
NIC is taking a beating...wololo

like a burukenge!!we are past the meltdown infact my exhaust pipe is getting hot

Eti nini.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Nikubaya. Afadhali Leo ni Friday. If we start Monday on this mood, hell it shall be. Safcom not done yet. That supply is torrent.


Lol just crazy. Smart money has resigned to the fact that we shall breach 3,000. Its a downfall!!!


This bear has been relentless. Remember the optimism we had at 5400. Now we're almost half that amount.

The thing to remember is that this particular bear has been very deceptive. Most guys were non-believers when it started out and they kept under-estimating its devastation. It has put investors out of their misery in a very surgical manner unlike the high octane types of 2008 & 2011.

Look at the commodities bear run since 2011 to date. Oil was the last to tank in 2014 after putting on a very brave fight. I think the NSE will undergo something similar with safcom being the last one to capitulate.


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lochaz-index
#2362 Posted : Friday, January 13, 2017 6:55:55 PM
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obiero wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
hisah wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
hisah wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Next support, 3070 low of December 2011,below that opens up to 2360, the March 2009 GFC lows.


NSE 20 down 33 points today to close at 3083Sad
With USD Bulls on the driver's seat, Safcom on a downward trend and credit growth at an all time low, NSE 20 would need divine intervention to stay above the 3,000 psychological level. The 3070 support level is now under serious threat!

FTSE NSE KE 15 index is oversold on all time frames except the monthly gauge!!! Extremely bearish. Extreme sentiments usually warn of a sharp turn ahead.

Intraday the index is down 1.24% and will likely close this way. NSE20 will likely close down 1% or more which means it will close below 3000 handle Pray

Are we already in sub-3000 territory? That would take the market 7 years back to 2009. The bounce from 3074 was a bit too steep to be sustainable. Some relief rallies before FY results maybe?

NSE20 closes at 3047 breaking the 2011 low at 3070 made on Dec 6 2011. This index is also oversold on the daily, weekly and monthly gauges. Divergence noted on the RSI. The low points are not correlating with the RSI which is printing lower highs. Extreme sentiments zone as the bear extends into the third year with fat tails getting fatter.

The ensuing rebound after this overfeeding spree by the bears is going to be awesome. But as usual many will miss this rebound before the extreme negative sentiments can be reset. Then the bull starts a climb of worry then comes the euphoria phase and bang down we go again as the cycle repeats.


All this when the Dow is knocking the 20,000 door.
We should bottom sometime this quarter.......not very long from now but sub 3,000 is sure to print by week close.
Early next week should be considered a good time for partial entry.

The amount of capital that has piled into US equities since the November election is on a crazy scale. It has outranked every single asset class/stock market by several multiples. This is happening before both the anticipated tax cuts come on board and the bond rout goes global.

A bit surprised that European markets have managed to nearly/entirely erase their earlier 2016 losses considering everything that is going on in their backyard.

EM/FM stock market and their respective currencies will have a defensive/nasty 2017 if funds are only itching to have a piece of the American pie via dollar hedging, bonds or stocks etc.

Assessed independently, KE's affairs are shambolic and it will take time to undo. My estimate is at least one and a half years. Couple that with the fact that foreign participation @70/80% has been the life blood of the NSE for the last two years or so plus the global preference for dollar assets over a weak(er) KES by same investor class and you can see the difficulty in the market bottoming out so soon. Wanjiku activity has been low in the post GFC period and has declined further since the current bear run began.

Cbk turned on the spigots in September and October 2016 for some reason which is still unclear.

Banks' skeletons/underbelly will be exposed sooner rather than later, more so if most of them choose not to bite the bullet @FY2016 coz FY 2017 will be devastating if the same economic conditions persist or get worse. Something is rotten in that neck of the woods.

Even Q1 2017 shall be robust for tier 1 banks.. Banking is alive and well. It's the small banks that are in shida

The issues afflicting the banking sector are many and varied. Some cut across the sector meaning they are systemic in nature, some are specific to certain banks.

The main problem however which blows this small bank vs big bank dichotomy out of the water is if confidence in the sector evaporates. That could easily be triggered by a small bank (or a series of them) going belly up. Profits made are not the critical indicator at this point.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2363 Posted : Friday, January 13, 2017 6:56:35 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,225
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
lochaz-index wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
maka wrote:
NIC is taking a beating...wololo

like a burukenge!!we are past the meltdown infact my exhaust pipe is getting hot

Eti nini.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Nikubaya. Afadhali Leo ni Friday. If we start Monday on this mood, hell it shall be. Safcom not done yet. That supply is torrent.


Lol just crazy. Smart money has resigned to the fact that we shall breach 3,000. Its a downfall!!!


This bear has been relentless. Remember the optimism we had at 5400. Now we're almost half that amount.

The thing to remember is that this particular bear has been very deceptive. Most guys were non-believers when it started out and they kept under-estimating its devastation. It has put investors out of their misery in a very surgical manner unlike the high octane types of 2008 & 2011.

Look at the commodities bear run since 2011 to date. Oil was the last to tank in 2014 after putting on a very brave fight. I think the NSE will undergo something similar with safcom being the last one to capitulate.



Very true @L.Index. The 2009/2011 Bears were high octane partly because we had a manager/economist as President and not a politician like we currently have.
Take a look at the slow mo... bear that was in place in the Moi presidency which was characterised by low economic output,profit warnings, low business sentiment etc....like is the case currently............
@SufficientlyP
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2364 Posted : Friday, January 13, 2017 6:59:44 PM
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@L.Index, this was between 1st Jan 2000(earliest available data) and September 2002 in the moi's sunset years.
A similar situation is at play currently.
@SufficientlyP
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2365 Posted : Friday, January 13, 2017 7:03:04 PM
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A much clearer cartoon on the Weekly Time Frame

@SufficientlyP
lochaz-index
#2366 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 9:23:12 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:



@L.Index, this was between 1st Jan 2000(earliest available data) and September 2002 in the moi's sunset years.
A similar situation is at play currently.

Thanks for the charts. I believe that bear run was part of an 8 year downturn (economy, NSE20 etc) where the market in particular tanked from 5000 in 1994 to 1000 in 2002. Interesting similarities to the current situation. I don't expect the bearish momentum to last eight years this time but I think the bear still has some leg room till sub-2000.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
muandiwambeu
#2367 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 10:13:05 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:



@L.Index, this was between 1st Jan 2000(earliest available data) and September 2002 in the moi's sunset years.
A similar situation is at play currently.

Thanks for the charts. I believe that bear run was part of an 8 year downturn (economy, NSE20 etc) where the market in particular tanked from 5000 in 1994 to 1000 in 2002. Interesting similarities to the current situation. I don't expect the bearish momentum to last eight years this time but I think the bear still has some leg room till sub-2000.

Some of these predictions here I think are insane and lunatic? Which metrics have aligned between now and then, uhuruto is young, vibrant and going places, moi was retiring.
Me needs to see a medic, but they are out farting on nse and complicating my situation inside here. Something must give in. It can not continue like this. Another ten percentiles down and stop loss buttons starts buzzing relentlessly.
Daktari tafadhali tokeni NSE and go back to hosi or you will have yourselves to blame for excessively intoxication at NSE without a recourse.d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Spikes
#2368 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 10:18:48 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:



@L.Index, this was between 1st Jan 2000(earliest available data) and September 2002 in the moi's sunset years.
A similar situation is at play currently.

Thanks for the charts. I believe that bear run was part of an 8 year downturn (economy, NSE20 etc) where the market in particular tanked from 5000 in 1994 to 1000 in 2002. Interesting similarities to the current situation. I don't expect the bearish momentum to last eight years this time but I think the bear still has some leg room till sub-2000.

Some of these predictions here I think are insane and lunatic? Which metrics have aligned between now and then, uhuruto is young, vibrant and going places, moi was retiring.
Me needs to see a medic, but they are out farting on nse and complicating my situation inside here. Something must give in. It can not continue like this. Another ten percentiles down and stop loss buttons starts buzzing relentlessly.
Daktari tafadhali tokeni NSE and go back to hosi or you will have yourselves to blame for excessively intoxication at NSE without a recourse.d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!.



There is bullish sentiment building across the economy. .. Don't rush to stop the loss. . ....Market magicians are out roaring ruthlessly into your holdings.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Cornelius Vanderbilt
#2369 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 10:25:52 AM
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Joined: 8/15/2015
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lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:



@L.Index, this was between 1st Jan 2000(earliest available data) and September 2002 in the moi's sunset years.
A similar situation is at play currently.

Thanks for the charts. I believe that bear run was part of an 8 year downturn (economy, NSE20 etc) where the market in particular tanked from 5000 in 1994 to 1000 in 2002. Interesting similarities to the current situation. I don't expect the bearish momentum to last eight years this time but I think the bear still has some leg room till sub-2000.


sub 2000 is abit wayyyyyyyyyyy tooooooooo bearish.we arenot in a recession you know ! the current slip in the stock market is because of political tension
Aguytrying
#2370 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 10:32:14 AM
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Buyers paradise for the smart investors! Sub 3000 hit on Friday 2971. Unbelievable.

Mark my words some stocks will rally 300% in the next bull run! All our current problems are temporary, they can and will be fixed/end. My main worry is the political regime that is killing the economy. But they can change that aspect or be replaced.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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