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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 399
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wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte You sure are a very knowledgeable person...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,225 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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xtina wrote:wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte You sure are a very knowledgeable person... True that. @Wukan has just taken us back to events preceding the Great depression of the late 20s all the way to our current leadership. Funny enough, the bible, in the old testament, has chronicles of Kings. the one i like the most is when the Kingship moved to a young person, who refused to listen to the counsel of the aged (like Mzee Kibaki in matters economics) and instead listened to his fellow agemates. You can imagine the kind of advice he would get. By the way, kibaki had an economic counsel in place, during his reign. @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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I would not call our present Government "Leadership". It's actually far from it. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI
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AAK SAYS NO TO THE EXPRESSWAY After many consultations & presentations, including one from KeNHA; AAK - whose members are planners, architects, QS, Engineers, project managers, landscape arch, etc. have made the informed decision to petition KeNHA to stop the project. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 468 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:AAK SAYS NO TO THE EXPRESSWAY After many consultations & presentations, including one from KeNHA; AAK - whose members are planners, architects, QS, Engineers, project managers, landscape arch, etc. have made the informed decision to petition KeNHA to stop the project. When they [AAK] attended the KeNHA meeting the Public Participation check box was ticked. This Govt listens to nobody and will bulldoze it's way through.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte I see you are on a mission to kill the perma-optimists here who keep hoping and praying - but mostly praying - for some kind of economic miracle to surmount the malaise. I partly disagree on the point of everything hinging on leadership and by extension politics. The social and economic variables always move way ahead of the political situation prevailing at any one point. Politics is a therefore a consequence not necessarily the determinant. For example, that is why despite the rapprochement nothing changed course including the NSE. Further afield in SA, even after booting Zuma the xenophobia continues and I suspect little to no reform will be acoomplished by Ramaphosa. In Zim, after the departure of Mugabe the monetary experiments and political represssion continue unabated since the social fabric(social psyche/integration) and economic variables haven't changed one bit. On the other end of the spectrum Botswana and Ghana(save for their debt appetite) are chugging along just fine despite the political changeovers. Politics/leadership is just a case of the tail pretending to wag the dog. The key for KE as is for many African countries is demographics. That is whether they will be able to harness the demographic dividend of a young population or will it turn into a never ending spiral of social upheaval. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI
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lochaz-index wrote:wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte I see you are on a mission to kill the perma-optimists here who keep hoping and praying - but mostly praying - for some kind of economic miracle to surmount the malaise. I partly disagree on the point of everything hinging on leadership and by extension politics. The social and economic variables always move way ahead of the political situation prevailing at any one point. Politics is a therefore a consequence not necessarily the determinant. For example, that is why despite the rapprochement nothing changed course including the NSE. Further afield in SA, even after booting Zuma the xenophobia continues and I suspect little to no reform will be acoomplished by Ramaphosa. In Zim, after the departure of Mugabe the monetary experiments and political represssion continue unabated since the social fabric(social psyche/integration) and economic variables haven't changed one bit. On the other end of the spectrum Botswana and Ghana(save for their debt appetite) are chugging along just fine despite the political changeovers. Politics/leadership is just a case of the tail pretending to wag the dog. The key for KE as is for many African countries is demographics. That is whether they will be able to harness the demographic dividend of a young population or will it turn into a never ending spiral of social upheaval. A revolution of the people against the leadership is the solution Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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Fyatu wrote:MugundaMan wrote: Dont run like a coward bradza. - you didnt have to say it, you have implied that you HATE chinese imports. - oooo imports are from china - oooo no local companies because of Chinese companies - oooo the import export ratio favours China, My braddah we CANNOT develop without China's expertise and imports. Look at your friend Ndii. Went alllllll the way to Oxford and instead of bringing home technology to build factories and cars from Britain he came back with miwani ya kamba tu na stori mingi kwa gazeti worth zero.BURE GHABISA!!!! Oxford Ndii and his miwani ya kamba should get laid awache ku troll HE Uhuru and his family huko twirrer. Blah blah blah mingi hatutaki kusikia Where did @Mugundaman go to lol  Dumbest chap on this platform.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Monk wrote:rwitre wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? 3 options, based on risk appetite: Guaranteed safety: Buy gold. Safety without liquidity: Buy land Liquidity with risk: Buy bitcoin Liquidity with minimal risk: Buy USD The Japanese Yen is a safe heaven. Like gold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Leadership is important, demographics are important, but the most important thing is to understand that the basic unit of the economy is the human individual's physical and psychological structure. This is the base of all economics that we have been overlooking.
Call it 'humanism' in its most ancient meaning. If we can invest in humanism, then we can turn clay into Gold. You can imagine what would happen if we were to produce gold even at mashinani.
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